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Just shows again drop off between first team and some subs 15:54 - Jan 5 with 1838 viewsDublinBlue84

I think what we're seeing is both Clarke and Al Hamadi are not good enough now for this level. They need loans out.

When they come on there is a big drop off in terms of being able to defend as a team and retain possession.

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Just shows again drop off between first team and some subs on 15:55 - Jan 5 with 1814 viewsTractorWood

No idea why Morsy wasn't taken off instead of Cajuste.

He's our best player by miles.

I know that was then, but it could be again..
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Just shows again drop off between first team and some subs on 15:56 - Jan 5 with 1772 viewsZx1988

The AAH sub is where we stuffed it.

There was always a risk, against Fulham, that we'd concede in the final few minutes. With Delap on the pitch we could try and get a third, but with AAH it becomes a guaranteed backs-to-the-wall job.

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Just shows again drop off between first team and some subs on 15:56 - Jan 5 with 1748 viewspointofblue

It was the first teamers who let us down - Morsy and Davis with moronic challenges. Clarke came so close to making it 3-1. Do agree about Al-Hamidi, though.

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Just shows again drop off between first team and some subs on 15:57 - Jan 5 with 1706 viewsDublinBlue84

Just shows again drop off between first team and some subs on 15:56 - Jan 5 by pointofblue

It was the first teamers who let us down - Morsy and Davis with moronic challenges. Clarke came so close to making it 3-1. Do agree about Al-Hamidi, though.


They made mistakes, without a doubt, but the thing is the subs that were made increased the pressure on the rest of the team.

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Just shows again drop off between first team and some subs on 15:58 - Jan 5 with 1662 viewsJammyDodgerrr

Nah. Two idiotic challenges made it happen. Not the subs fault. Clarke had just hit the post.

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Just shows again drop off between first team and some subs on 15:59 - Jan 5 with 1605 viewspointofblue

Just shows again drop off between first team and some subs on 15:57 - Jan 5 by DublinBlue84

They made mistakes, without a doubt, but the thing is the subs that were made increased the pressure on the rest of the team.


I didn't really the notice the difference after Clarke came on. Thought he did well. Agree regarding AAH. I think Delap should have stayed on.

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Just shows again drop off between first team and some subs on 16:00 - Jan 5 with 1554 viewsZapatasMoustache

No I didn’t see that at all. Clarke and Al-Hamada were fine. Giving away two pens in one game is not.
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Just shows again drop off between first team and some subs on 16:00 - Jan 5 with 1542 viewsNutkins_Return

Just shows again drop off between first team and some subs on 15:57 - Jan 5 by DublinBlue84

They made mistakes, without a doubt, but the thing is the subs that were made increased the pressure on the rest of the team.


An inch from the subs making the difference. This is silly. We were always increasingly under the cosh holding out.

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Just shows again drop off between first team and some subs on 16:02 - Jan 5 with 1456 viewsDublinBlue84

Just shows again drop off between first team and some subs on 15:59 - Jan 5 by pointofblue

I didn't really the notice the difference after Clarke came on. Thought he did well. Agree regarding AAH. I think Delap should have stayed on.


Clarke was okay going forward but defensively he's weaker and having Davis who is not a fantastic defender and Clarke on the same side is not for me. He gave up possession of the ball several times and they had more joy down that side after he came on.

In a tight match unless Delap is injured he should be staying on, especially when we don't have Omari, Hirst or Cajuste on the pitch. Taking Delap off as well means we have nobody to hold the ball up and to take the ball upfield.

Honestly we need a replacement for AAH and quick, when he comes on it invites pressure on the rest of the team as we don't have an outlet.

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Just shows again drop off between first team and some subs on 16:02 - Jan 5 with 1448 viewsOsmansCleanSheet

Just shows again drop off between first team and some subs on 15:57 - Jan 5 by DublinBlue84

They made mistakes, without a doubt, but the thing is the subs that were made increased the pressure on the rest of the team.


Let’s take the positives though. We came within a whisker of winning away at the 9th placed team in the Premier League. And we would’ve deserved it too. Two silly challenges are the only downer on an otherwise excellent performance.
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Just shows again drop off between first team and some subs on 16:14 - Jan 5 with 1297 viewsbrushhand

Why is it the subs fault that morsey and davis make ill judged tackles?
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Just shows again drop off between first team and some subs on 16:16 - Jan 5 with 1236 viewsDublinBlue84

Just shows again drop off between first team and some subs on 16:14 - Jan 5 by brushhand

Why is it the subs fault that morsey and davis make ill judged tackles?


Of course it wasn't, but the lack of an outlet up front following the withdrawal of Delap put the whole team further under pressure

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Just shows again drop off between first team and some subs on 16:18 - Jan 5 with 1207 viewsbrushhand

Just shows again drop off between first team and some subs on 16:16 - Jan 5 by DublinBlue84

Of course it wasn't, but the lack of an outlet up front following the withdrawal of Delap put the whole team further under pressure


Delap was on the pitch for the 1st pen.
it was needless and reckless.
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Just shows again drop off between first team and some subs on 16:20 - Jan 5 with 1187 viewsBluedandy

The second goal is just a clumsy challenge it's got nothing to do with the subs ... their attack for the penalty stems from the shot that hit the post, or are you blaming Clarke for not actually scoring?
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Just shows again drop off between first team and some subs on 16:20 - Jan 5 with 1184 viewsbaxterbasics

So much more comforting to blame newer signings than our Lg1 and Championship heroes, right?

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Just shows again drop off between first team and some subs on 16:24 - Jan 5 with 1135 viewsDublinBlue84

Just shows again drop off between first team and some subs on 16:18 - Jan 5 by brushhand

Delap was on the pitch for the 1st pen.
it was needless and reckless.


I agree that the first pen was needless and reckless and that's all on Morsy.

My point was that when Delap was off the pitch there was no out ball. Our three best players for getting us up the pitch to hold on to points have been Cajuste, Hutchinson and Delap, with Hutch out and Cajuste no longer on the pitch it was vital that we kept Delap on, as we had nobody else on the bench who was going to be able to keep the ball.

As a defensive unit we were much weaker following the introduction of Clarke and Ali,, we were pinned in more and that made them scoring more likely which also meant that we are more likely to make a mistake. That doesn't mean that Davis wasn't to blame also, but I just felt that when we needed to be stronger the subs made us weaker.

As for Davis, we all know what he is, excellent going forward and easily good enough for this level in that respect, but he isn't the greatest defensively and never has been and that is why he is not getting in England Squads. Saying that if he could defend as well as be so good going forward he'd be playing for a top four club.

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Just shows again drop off between first team and some subs on 16:30 - Jan 5 with 1089 viewsSwansea_Blue

I'm not sure it does really in terms of the defending and from that example of their second goal (we clearly do need to improve quality though). The issue for their penalty was with the defence, It's no good playing 3 CBs if Leif is expected to be at both ends of the pitch at once. We 'should' have been able to cover him. Greaves could have done more to help him imo. Leif was wrecked (maybe naive going forward with 1 minute of normal time left, but we'd all be saying it was a good decision had Clarke scored) - he was struggling to get back but was left one on one with his man playing catch up. Even when he gave away the pen Greaves could have either (a) doubled up with him on the Fulham player or let Leif know there was cover if needed (he may have communicated, but there was no sign of it from what we could see).

So a little bit tired and switching off a bit was the reason we lost that game imo. Not that we couldn't do with better quality through the squad of course.

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