| Philogene 20:14 - Feb 1 with 2652 views | kizaitfc |
I don't understand the attacks he is getting, he played no worse than Hutchinson.
He was not the reason we lost today's game.
For me, Greaves, Hutchinson, Davis and Muric were poor today.
We lacked any sort of drive, we seemed too passive and worried about making a mistake the complete opposite to how we played last season. I think that is what McKenna will be most disappointed in |  |
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| Philogene on 20:19 - Feb 1 with 2245 views | mellowblue |
It is more an attack on the transfer. It is too early for him to be the game changer we currently need. Another young lightweight 10, I don't think he offers anything different to what we already have. Entirely not his fault. Does not look good value at the moment. | | | |
| Philogene on 20:21 - Feb 1 with 2219 views | orfordbuoy |
Should that drive not be coming from Morsy? Cajuste certainly tried.
Philogene looked lost; whether that was down to him, or Mckenna, or both, who knows? |  | | |
| Philogene on 20:22 - Feb 1 with 2202 views | textbackup |
2 players, at £20m each. Being that ineffective… and you can’t see the issue? |  |
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| Philogene on 20:23 - Feb 1 with 2189 views | FoghornGleghorn |
Agreed. Philogene didn't get into the game but Hutch was the real puzzlement today...such a blend of booked and out-of-position defenders to run at should have been paradise, but he seems to have stopped skinning defenders, and instead just slows to walking pace and then seems to try to run straight through them. Ignoring a lot of passing options too...I'm sure it's just a dip in form, but he's looked a little like the same level of ineffectual that he was in his first few games for us lately... [Post edited 1 Feb 20:24]
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| Philogene on 20:26 - Feb 1 with 2142 views | bsw72 |
People lash out when they are angry - there's a lot of anger and disappointment on here tonight.
The fact is that KM has tried to develop the team, but it hasn't worked (yet at least) and this has been compounded by the fact that this season's PL have not really had an underperforming "established" team for an extended period. Wolves and Everton have turned their seasons around leaving the promoted teams in the hole.
I console myself with the knowledge that we've had 3 amazing years and the club is in a far better shape than it was under Evans etc. Our success in the last 3 years has set standards that are impossible to maintain, and whether fans like it or not, this season was always going to be a reality check.
I refuse to slate players or the manager as I am sure they are all trying their best, but it's not quite been good enough for extended periods. [Post edited 1 Feb 20:27]
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| Philogene on 20:26 - Feb 1 with 2115 views | ITFC_84 |
Unfortunately, him, Hutchinson and J Clarke costing us a combined £55m, has killed us. We needed, just a fraction of that, spend on a decent keeper and CM. | | | |
| Philogene on 20:35 - Feb 1 with 2028 views | kizaitfc |
| Philogene on 20:22 - Feb 1 by textbackup |
2 players, at £20m each. Being that ineffective… and you can’t see the issue? |
No one was shouting at Hutchinson though, they all seemed to attack Philogene after his first 10 minutes. | |
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| Philogene on 20:37 - Feb 1 with 1992 views | kizaitfc |
| Philogene on 20:26 - Feb 1 by ITFC_84 |
Unfortunately, him, Hutchinson and J Clarke costing us a combined £55m, has killed us. We needed, just a fraction of that, spend on a decent keeper and CM. |
Agree the one issue KM seems to have is a desire for signing no. 10s rather than focusing on what is actually needed.
Although he can be forgiven for thinking Cajuste and Phillips were decent signings at our level. | |
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| Philogene on 20:39 - Feb 1 with 1960 views | ITFC1977 |
| Philogene on 20:35 - Feb 1 by kizaitfc |
No one was shouting at Hutchinson though, they all seemed to attack Philogene after his first 10 minutes. |
Philogene played 20 odd minutes after a week of training, every club has their idiots, opinions and observations are fine, but anyone judging him on that isn’t worth paying attention too. | | | |
| Philogene on 20:40 - Feb 1 with 1950 views | ITFCSG |
Moder off to Feyenoord at £1.2 million last week. Experienced Prem player in an area we desperately need strengthening. Compare it to the tens of millions we have been paying for players with no Prem experience like J Clarke and Philogene and I really wonder what MA and McK is up to in the transfer market.
We must be viewed as suckers by Sunderland, Villa, Burnley etc who are laughing all the way to their bank. | | | |
| Philogene on 20:40 - Feb 1 with 1951 views | kizaitfc |
| Philogene on 20:19 - Feb 1 by mellowblue |
It is more an attack on the transfer. It is too early for him to be the game changer we currently need. Another young lightweight 10, I don't think he offers anything different to what we already have. Entirely not his fault. Does not look good value at the moment. |
Walking out of the ground I must have heard philogenes name more than anyone.
He was not the reason we conceded 2 goals to a team who I though was the worst team I have ever seen play at this level. | |
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| Philogene on 20:43 - Feb 1 with 1887 views | Stewart27 |
| Philogene on 20:26 - Feb 1 by ITFC_84 |
Unfortunately, him, Hutchinson and J Clarke costing us a combined £55m, has killed us. We needed, just a fraction of that, spend on a decent keeper and CM. |
A fraction of 55million spent on a decent PL midfielder and GK?
Love it. It’s really simple.
Who? | | | |
| Philogene on 20:47 - Feb 1 with 1833 views | textbackup |
| Philogene on 20:35 - Feb 1 by kizaitfc |
No one was shouting at Hutchinson though, they all seemed to attack Philogene after his first 10 minutes. |
I was. Losing the ball attack after attack.
Chelsea must be laughing | |
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| Philogene on 20:50 - Feb 1 with 1785 views | ITFCSG |
| Philogene on 20:40 - Feb 1 by kizaitfc |
Walking out of the ground I must have heard philogenes name more than anyone.
He was not the reason we conceded 2 goals to a team who I though was the worst team I have ever seen play at this level. |
Probably because of the long-drawn saga to sign him + cost + being another no. 10 - much viewed as an unnecessary signing to most when we are desperately in need for a CM, ST and GK | | | |
| Philogene on 20:52 - Feb 1 with 1745 views | seblue78 |
| Philogene on 20:47 - Feb 1 by textbackup |
I was. Losing the ball attack after attack.
Chelsea must be laughing |
Christ you’re a tedious little bore | | | |
| Philogene on 20:59 - Feb 1 with 1668 views | textbackup |
| Philogene on 20:52 - Feb 1 by seblue78 |
Christ you’re a tedious little bore |
Funny that, felt the same watching OH losing the ball weekly, time and time again . | |
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| Philogene on 21:02 - Feb 1 with 1626 views | portmanking |
| Philogene on 20:59 - Feb 1 by textbackup |
Funny that, felt the same watching OH losing the ball weekly, time and time again . |
I'd lay off TWTD for 24 hrs. Your head's gone. | | | |
| Philogene on 21:08 - Feb 1 with 1558 views | textbackup |
| Philogene on 21:02 - Feb 1 by portmanking |
I'd lay off TWTD for 24 hrs. Your head's gone. |
No.
I’ve seen us lose in a must win game.
And offer nothing.
If that turns u on. Well done. | |
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| Philogene on 21:10 - Feb 1 with 1528 views | NeedhamChris |
| Philogene on 21:02 - Feb 1 by portmanking |
I'd lay off TWTD for 24 hrs. Your head's gone. |
Give him a break. He's just watch the team he (and most of us) love lose a crucial game - and is p****d off and angry. | |
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| Philogene on 21:11 - Feb 1 with 1506 views | portmanking |
| Philogene on 21:08 - Feb 1 by textbackup |
No.
I’ve seen us lose in a must win game.
And offer nothing.
If that turns u on. Well done. |
Just as hacked off as you are.
But insulting the likes of Omari, who are trying their best at the elite level of our sport and often being flogged for 90+ minutes, just feels like cheap shots to me. | | | |
| Philogene on 21:15 - Feb 1 with 1444 views | textbackup |
| Philogene on 21:11 - Feb 1 by portmanking |
Just as hacked off as you are.
But insulting the likes of Omari, who are trying their best at the elite level of our sport and often being flogged for 90+ minutes, just feels like cheap shots to me. |
At what point is trying their best not good enough? | |
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| Philogene on 21:23 - Feb 1 with 1378 views | portmanking |
| Philogene on 21:15 - Feb 1 by textbackup |
At what point is trying their best not good enough? |
So you're essentially having a painful time accepting that our players may not be quite good enough at this level? That's the reality. It was always likely to be the case.
Spending 130m was necessary to bolster our squad value and ensure we have assets for player trading.
It's gutting that we should be 6-7 points better off than where we are, but we've bought a lot of potential and that may take more than 6 months to be realised. | | | |
| Philogene on 21:28 - Feb 1 with 1343 views | Illinoisblue |
“Attacks”? He and his agent acted the billy big bollox… time to live up to the billing. He did nothing of note in 30mins. Nothing. |  |
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| Philogene on 21:31 - Feb 1 with 1313 views | textbackup |
| Philogene on 21:23 - Feb 1 by portmanking |
So you're essentially having a painful time accepting that our players may not be quite good enough at this level? That's the reality. It was always likely to be the case.
Spending 130m was necessary to bolster our squad value and ensure we have assets for player trading.
It's gutting that we should be 6-7 points better off than where we are, but we've bought a lot of potential and that may take more than 6 months to be realised. |
Can accept that. But won’t come on here to celebrate it.
We’ve recruited poorly | |
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| Philogene on 21:38 - Feb 1 with 1235 views | BloomBlue |
I wasn't happy we spent what we did on him, but today I actually felt sorry for him.
He replaced Broady (who I thought was finding space) which bemused me, but I thought ok KM wants a bit more pace down the left. But then he moved Philogene to the right and Hutchinson to the middle. Trouble was Hutch kept drifting right, leaving no space between the two. Southampton simply placed an extra player over there to stifle any space which gave Philogene nowhere to go.
I really didn't understand KMs thought process there. |  | | |
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