| Ukraine selling its soul... on 06:44 - Feb 26 with 1950 views | BrandonsBlues |
So you have a choice between being pillaged by the Russians or the USofA. Or like Africa you can have the Chinese.
School bullies the lot of them.
Oh and finally you will forever be in debt and never able to pay it off.
Any rebuilding required the contracts will be given to our companies also. |  | |  |
| Ukraine selling its soul... on 07:11 - Feb 26 with 1912 views | Churchman |
They’re being blackmailed and have no choice. Extortion basically.
It’s a bit like the scene in Goodfellas where a store owner is being robbed and bullied. He seeks protection from the local mafia boss Paulie and it’s given with the proviso they go into partnership. The people who were already robbing it who are now partners continue to drain it until there’s nothing left. The business is fully signed over bankrupt and burned down.
That is what’ll happen to Ukraine.
The deal is empty Ukraine of its wealth as ‘payment’ (made up by Trump), but really it’s a deal with Russia who will have control of Ukraine in no time. Calls for elections (ironically by a couple of a’holes like Putin and Trump) are purely to get the right man in the job and Ukraine can be absorbed with no further Russian losses.
They can then move on to the Baltics, Balkans and Poland. For the US, right and wrong, the lessons of history - all in the bin for $$ and control of what it wants in Canada, Greenland etc. A division of the spoils with best friends Russia and distrusted friend China. [Post edited 26 Feb 7:15]
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| Ukraine selling its soul... on 07:22 - Feb 26 with 1858 views | noggin |
I wonder who this will benefit.
It won't be the American parents who are having to work 2 or 3 jobs, to feed their kids.
It won't be Ukranian children, whose fathers have been killed while fighting an illegal invasion of their land.
It won't be the families of Russian and North Korean conscripts, who were killed, fighting a war they didn't want.
It won't be Poles, Latvians or Lithuanians, living close to the Russian border and worrying whether they'll be next.
It won't be the people of Greenland, who might soon have the natural resources of their own land pillaged.
So who will benefit from this? Answers on a postcard, if you can afford one. [Post edited 26 Feb 7:32]
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| Ukraine selling its soul... on 07:28 - Feb 26 with 1832 views | BlueBoots |
US are playing both sides; Putin already offering the US mineral rights (large chunk of which from the region of Ukraine that Russia are occupying)
"It is estimated that about 5% of the world's "critical raw materials" are in Ukraine - including:
19m tonnes of proven reserves of graphite, which is used to make batteries for electric vehicles"
Wonder if Trump might know someone who could make use of that?
"Trump on what US minerals deal gives Ukraine - 'Military equipment and the right to fight on'"
This was never about peace...US taking advantage of some new contracts for their weapons industries (and getting to palm off their old, obsolete miltary equipment...to be replaced by more up to date weaponry - more new contracts)
The richest 3 men in the US have the same amount of wealth as the poorest 170m people in the country. If you dug deep enough, most of the time these things came back to how someone can make a few quid - difference now is that these people are so powerful (not just through wealth, but controlling popular and social media) it's being done with government backing - and all out in the open. |  |
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| Ukraine selling its soul... on 07:35 - Feb 26 with 1760 views | noggin |
Ukraine isn't selling its soul. It's having it's soul stolen from it. | |
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| Ukraine selling its soul... on 07:40 - Feb 26 with 1733 views | Churchman |
| Ukraine selling its soul... on 07:22 - Feb 26 by noggin |
I wonder who this will benefit.
It won't be the American parents who are having to work 2 or 3 jobs, to feed their kids.
It won't be Ukranian children, whose fathers have been killed while fighting an illegal invasion of their land.
It won't be the families of Russian and North Korean conscripts, who were killed, fighting a war they didn't want.
It won't be Poles, Latvians or Lithuanians, living close to the Russian border and worrying whether they'll be next.
It won't be the people of Greenland, who might soon have the natural resources of their own land pillaged.
So who will benefit from this? Answers on a postcard, if you can afford one. [Post edited 26 Feb 7:32]
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It will benefit the dictators and stains of humanity like trump. In America’s case, very rich people in the club like Musk. If the average American thinks ravaging state structures and hurling 1000s out of work, America First will benefit them, dream on.
The dollars accrued from that, extortionate tariffs, robbery from other countries won’t touch them. What will is inflation and destruction of what few services America has.
Oh well, it’s what they want. They voted for him and worship him, baseball cap, Musk + ugly kid (to humanise him) n all.
Ahhh, postcards. While I dreaded completing and sending them (same old rubbish on the back) I kind of miss them. My favourite was one of a cactus the perfect shape of a body part I sent to my mother. She loved it and had it on their mantelpiece for months, much to my dads displeasure. | | | |
| Ukraine selling its soul... on 08:35 - Feb 26 with 1616 views | homer_123 |
| Ukraine selling its soul... on 07:35 - Feb 26 by noggin |
Ukraine isn't selling its soul. It's having it's soul stolen from it. |
Oh absolutely, I thought my post title was being pithy. |  |
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| Ukraine selling its soul... on 08:38 - Feb 26 with 1611 views | redrickstuhaart |
| Ukraine selling its soul... on 08:35 - Feb 26 by homer_123 |
Oh absolutely, I thought my post title was being pithy. |
What a wonderful man Trump is. A true statesman.
Says he is going to sort out a war, and the first thing he gets stuck into is how to make a profit from it.
The first casualty of war is the truth. | | | |
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| Ukraine selling its soul... on 09:26 - Feb 26 with 1505 views | SomethingBlue |
Really wouldn't put it that way. | |
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| Ukraine selling its soul... on 09:32 - Feb 26 with 1487 views | SuperKieranMcKenna |
| Ukraine selling its soul... on 08:38 - Feb 26 by redrickstuhaart |
What a wonderful man Trump is. A true statesman.
Says he is going to sort out a war, and the first thing he gets stuck into is how to make a profit from it.
The first casualty of war is the truth. |
Have you seen the AI video Trump shared of ‘future Gaza’, truly terrifying and dystopian stuff! | | | |
| Ukraine selling its soul... on 09:45 - Feb 26 with 1464 views | RIPbobby |
I am certain we are also doing it for financial reasons and not for love of Ukraine. It is not a coincidence that Zelensky is meeting with Trump on Friday. Low and behold Starmer is also in town to meet him. We will get favourable contracts once the war is over. Deal is already done.
So perhaps stock up on your cryptocurrency asap as that market will rise on Friday. |  | | |
| Ukraine selling its soul... on 09:56 - Feb 26 with 1423 views | homer_123 |
| Ukraine selling its soul... on 09:26 - Feb 26 by SomethingBlue |
Really wouldn't put it that way. |
Was trying to be pithy and sarcy... | |
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| Ukraine selling its soul... on 10:05 - Feb 26 with 1389 views | Swansea_Blue |
| Ukraine selling its soul... on 08:38 - Feb 26 by redrickstuhaart |
What a wonderful man Trump is. A true statesman.
Says he is going to sort out a war, and the first thing he gets stuck into is how to make a profit from it.
The first casualty of war is the truth. |
The annoying thing is there will be some truth in him sorting it out. That he’s metaphorically raped and pillaged to get there won’t bother his supporters one bit. |  |
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| Ukraine selling its soul... on 10:07 - Feb 26 with 1385 views | Ryorry |
| Ukraine selling its soul... on 08:35 - Feb 26 by homer_123 |
Oh absolutely, I thought my post title was being pithy. |
Sorry, nope, and what made it truly heinous was it being one word over your own rules, tut
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| Ukraine selling its soul... on 10:10 - Feb 26 with 1372 views | Churchman |
| Ukraine selling its soul... on 09:45 - Feb 26 by RIPbobby |
I am certain we are also doing it for financial reasons and not for love of Ukraine. It is not a coincidence that Zelensky is meeting with Trump on Friday. Low and behold Starmer is also in town to meet him. We will get favourable contracts once the war is over. Deal is already done.
So perhaps stock up on your cryptocurrency asap as that market will rise on Friday. |
We are not doing it for financial reasons and will only get a proportion of the money and time spent back, if anything. Bit like the Iraq war where the US got all the contracts when it ended and the U.K. got a bill, monetary and human cost.
We were involved with this to keep Putin’s aggression as far away as possible (bar threats, air and sea incursions, cable rip ups, cyber interference and the odd murder and poisoning). There was also a right and proper element in this where post WW2 aggression and empire building were by western countries seen as a cause of war not a solution and to be avoided. Trump has changed all that.
Starmer’s visit will hopefully and at best go quietly and enable KS to sing the same tune as Macron. But it carries the risk of Trump trying to belittle and bully him publicly. Having pillaged Ukraine and shared the booty with his best mate Vlad, the orange one will be full of wind and confidence. | | | |
| Ukraine selling its soul... on 10:41 - Feb 26 with 1261 views | brogansnose |
| Ukraine selling its soul... on 07:28 - Feb 26 by BlueBoots |
US are playing both sides; Putin already offering the US mineral rights (large chunk of which from the region of Ukraine that Russia are occupying)
"It is estimated that about 5% of the world's "critical raw materials" are in Ukraine - including:
19m tonnes of proven reserves of graphite, which is used to make batteries for electric vehicles"
Wonder if Trump might know someone who could make use of that?
"Trump on what US minerals deal gives Ukraine - 'Military equipment and the right to fight on'"
This was never about peace...US taking advantage of some new contracts for their weapons industries (and getting to palm off their old, obsolete miltary equipment...to be replaced by more up to date weaponry - more new contracts)
The richest 3 men in the US have the same amount of wealth as the poorest 170m people in the country. If you dug deep enough, most of the time these things came back to how someone can make a few quid - difference now is that these people are so powerful (not just through wealth, but controlling popular and social media) it's being done with government backing - and all out in the open. |
Well, thank goodness that those 3 richest men are fighting the 'deepstate' on our behalf.
Oh............... |  | | |
| Ukraine selling its soul... on 13:26 - Feb 26 with 1078 views | noggin |
| Ukraine selling its soul... on 10:41 - Feb 26 by brogansnose |
Well, thank goodness that those 3 richest men are fighting the 'deepstate' on our behalf.
Oh............... |
I watched a vlog last night, about Palm Beach FL. On the island, known as Palm Beach there are over 50 billionaires and the rest of the population is multi millionaires. A couple of miles away, in West Palm Beach, there is some of the most deprived areas anywhere in the US.
Obviously some locals make a living by serving these rich neighbours, but the majority don't and the contrast in the state of the infrastructure, either side of a bridge, is shocking. [Post edited 26 Feb 13:46]
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| Ukraine selling its soul... on 16:52 - Feb 26 with 907 views | BlueBoots |
| Ukraine selling its soul... on 10:41 - Feb 26 by brogansnose |
Well, thank goodness that those 3 richest men are fighting the 'deepstate' on our behalf.
Oh............... |
Bless them - they at least managed a little break from all their hard work to attend the opening of a new puppet show back on the 20th January. | |
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| Ukraine selling its soul... on 17:09 - Feb 26 with 859 views | mellowblue |
the deal has come to the signing stage very quickly. There has been little scutiny or due-diligence. All it shows is a strong US position and a weak Ukrainian one. Trump is a known tough negotiator, they really need to negotiate hard, not seemingly roll over with little or no security provisions. Trump tends to come in with the most hard ball, top dollar position and negotiates down if necessary. Just seems too early to be signing anything off from a Ukrainian p.o.v. | | | |
| Ukraine selling its soul... on 17:50 - Feb 26 with 791 views | ronnyd |
Or soil. | | | |
| Ukraine selling its soul... on 18:57 - Feb 26 with 706 views | LeoMuff |
Can’t see the USA seeing a dime for decades, hopefully Zelenskyy and Ukraine will sell Trump a pup. |  |
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