| Raducanu out of Wimbledon 08:06 - Jun 29 with 1429 views | Swansea_Blue |
Coincidental timing, just after McKenna becomes available? What’s the betting he turns up there to replace her. Surely they could afford the compo given what they charge for strawberries!
In all seriousness, she’s not having much luck with injuries is she? Quite a talent, but struggling to get back to that high of winning the US Open. Still only 23 though, so plenty of time,
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| Raducanu out of Wimbledon on 08:09 - Jun 29 with 1402 views | StokieBlue |
Really harsh for her, she had an injury which seems to have developed into a stress fracture.
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| Raducanu out of Wimbledon on 08:19 - Jun 29 with 1361 views | Swansea_Blue |
| Raducanu out of Wimbledon on 08:09 - Jun 29 by StokieBlue |
Really harsh for her, she had an injury which seems to have developed into a stress fracture.
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Yeah, I’d had half an ear on her no show at Nottingham after she seemed in a good place at Queens. She said that was down to scheduling and general fitness, but maybe this issue was already there then. It’s a shame for her. | |
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| Raducanu out of Wimbledon on 08:34 - Jun 29 with 1296 views | nrb1985 |
Arguably the US open win was the worst thing that could have happened.
She's carried the weight of that around with her ever since and doesn't look like she's coped too well with the pressure.
Also, injuries aside, the commercial opportunities she's been afforded on the back of it have, by general consensus, not been particularly helpful in terms of keeping her eye on the ball - excuse the pun.
Hope she gets back to something like what she was but not confident. I think she'll go the same way as Kournikova. [Post edited 29 Jun 8:36]
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| Raducanu out of Wimbledon on 09:00 - Jun 29 with 1215 views | TheGentlemanViking |
| Raducanu out of Wimbledon on 08:34 - Jun 29 by nrb1985 |
Arguably the US open win was the worst thing that could have happened.
She's carried the weight of that around with her ever since and doesn't look like she's coped too well with the pressure.
Also, injuries aside, the commercial opportunities she's been afforded on the back of it have, by general consensus, not been particularly helpful in terms of keeping her eye on the ball - excuse the pun.
Hope she gets back to something like what she was but not confident. I think she'll go the same way as Kournikova. [Post edited 29 Jun 8:36]
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Agree with all of this.
The women's game has found a real level of consistency these days too. Up until she won her major, there was a pattern of players climbing the rankings quickly, making finals, occasionally winning whatever major Serena didn't, and then disappearing as quickly as they'd burst through. It's not like that now, there is real quality at the top end, players like Sabalenka, Rybakina and Swiatek compete consistently for top honours and you have to be making finals on a regular basis to be able to break through and compete with them. I hope Emma can find some fitness and step up but I don't think she'll ever get close to matching the hype around her. |  | | |
| Raducanu out of Wimbledon on 09:01 - Jun 29 with 1211 views | Hugoagogo_Reborn |
Must be difficult to manage the training and physical stresses with a young talent such as Emma. Although the body is probably fully developed by this age, you wonder about the stresses and strains imposed in earlier years which my have an impact. I'm no expert on this, so just thinking out loud really, but sports do put unnatural strain on certain muscle groups and bones. |  |
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| Raducanu out of Wimbledon on 10:48 - Jun 29 with 1050 views | bsw72 |
Injuries for professional athletes are so difficult, especially when you are dependent on playing and results for your salary, like Tennis, Golf etc. Team athletes are slightly different as a lot are salaried and contracted.
Why the difference?
Those who depend on playing and results for prize money such as Radacanu will often play with a minor niggle; this can then lead to overcompensating for that niggle, leading to other injuries - all of which have a compound effect over time.
Also as well as salaried contracts most team players will have team physio and medical teams which these days tend to protect players more than they used to, insurance will cover more serious long term issues etc.
Sadly the pressure of playing for both prize money and the pressure of sponsors takes it toll on a lot of young profesional athletes these days - we hear about Radacanu more because of the public nature of how she came into the spotlight, but others in tennis etc have gone through similar. |  | | |
| Raducanu out of Wimbledon on 10:55 - Jun 29 with 1031 views | ArnoldMoorhen |
| Raducanu out of Wimbledon on 08:34 - Jun 29 by nrb1985 |
Arguably the US open win was the worst thing that could have happened.
She's carried the weight of that around with her ever since and doesn't look like she's coped too well with the pressure.
Also, injuries aside, the commercial opportunities she's been afforded on the back of it have, by general consensus, not been particularly helpful in terms of keeping her eye on the ball - excuse the pun.
Hope she gets back to something like what she was but not confident. I think she'll go the same way as Kournikova. [Post edited 29 Jun 8:36]
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The worst thing was sacking the coach who got her there. She hasn't had a settled coach since. Her Dad's theory is that you should hire a coach for a few months, squeeze every drop of knowledge out of them, then sign up with a new one.
I can't help but feel that a coach who knew her game inside out, who had a trusted relationship with her, and who had security of tenure might just have had her long term interests at heart and she might have built sustainably on the US Open win. | | | |
| Raducanu out of Wimbledon on 11:00 - Jun 29 with 1011 views | hype313 |
| Raducanu out of Wimbledon on 10:55 - Jun 29 by ArnoldMoorhen |
The worst thing was sacking the coach who got her there. She hasn't had a settled coach since. Her Dad's theory is that you should hire a coach for a few months, squeeze every drop of knowledge out of them, then sign up with a new one.
I can't help but feel that a coach who knew her game inside out, who had a trusted relationship with her, and who had security of tenure might just have had her long term interests at heart and she might have built sustainably on the US Open win. |
She's not the nicest girl either. One of our juniors at our club played with her all through younger age groups for years and built a strong bond and friendship, they faced eachother in the final at Felixstowe a few months before she won the US Open, as soon as she won it, she dropped this girl like a stone, having been friends for years.
Some of the things I've heard about her family dynamic has been eye opening too. |  |
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| Raducanu out of Wimbledon on 11:00 - Jun 29 with 1010 views | mellowblue |
| Raducanu out of Wimbledon on 09:01 - Jun 29 by Hugoagogo_Reborn |
Must be difficult to manage the training and physical stresses with a young talent such as Emma. Although the body is probably fully developed by this age, you wonder about the stresses and strains imposed in earlier years which my have an impact. I'm no expert on this, so just thinking out loud really, but sports do put unnatural strain on certain muscle groups and bones. |
The same happened to Laura Robson a few years back. Her wrist could not take the punishment. The women's game has developed physically over the last few years and any one of a smaller structure or stature can struggle with the physicality demands. The likes of Sabalenka are so physically strong, Serena being the template others have followed. Re the strain issues, it is the repetitive nature as well which must be a killer. As well as the sheer quantity of serves and returns when competition and practice work are all added up. Compared to how many times a footballer will hit a ball with pace (with a bigger muscle/bone set as well), there is absolutely no comparison. | | | |
| Raducanu out of Wimbledon on 11:06 - Jun 29 with 989 views | Kentish_Tractor |
| Raducanu out of Wimbledon on 10:55 - Jun 29 by ArnoldMoorhen |
The worst thing was sacking the coach who got her there. She hasn't had a settled coach since. Her Dad's theory is that you should hire a coach for a few months, squeeze every drop of knowledge out of them, then sign up with a new one.
I can't help but feel that a coach who knew her game inside out, who had a trusted relationship with her, and who had security of tenure might just have had her long term interests at heart and she might have built sustainably on the US Open win. |
As well as the short-term-mindedness of picking and then ditching coaches, apparently Emma also often dictates to the coach what she wants, not the other way around (and if they disagree with her they're binned very quickly) - which in my opinion is wrong.
Kinda like a football team really. New manager comes in and it often takes several months to get their way of playing into the players. If you bin the manager every 6 months, it just creates more problems than it solves. | |
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| Raducanu out of Wimbledon on 11:28 - Jun 29 with 953 views | nrb1985 |
| Raducanu out of Wimbledon on 10:48 - Jun 29 by bsw72 |
Injuries for professional athletes are so difficult, especially when you are dependent on playing and results for your salary, like Tennis, Golf etc. Team athletes are slightly different as a lot are salaried and contracted.
Why the difference?
Those who depend on playing and results for prize money such as Radacanu will often play with a minor niggle; this can then lead to overcompensating for that niggle, leading to other injuries - all of which have a compound effect over time.
Also as well as salaried contracts most team players will have team physio and medical teams which these days tend to protect players more than they used to, insurance will cover more serious long term issues etc.
Sadly the pressure of playing for both prize money and the pressure of sponsors takes it toll on a lot of young profesional athletes these days - we hear about Radacanu more because of the public nature of how she came into the spotlight, but others in tennis etc have gone through similar. |
On a related note - watch the Nadal netflix doc.
Bloke seems like he's been in constant pain since he was about 15.
You worry about the quality of life some of these people will have later down the line. [Post edited 29 Jun 11:33]
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| Raducanu out of Wimbledon on 11:32 - Jun 29 with 938 views | nrb1985 |
| Raducanu out of Wimbledon on 09:00 - Jun 29 by TheGentlemanViking |
Agree with all of this.
The women's game has found a real level of consistency these days too. Up until she won her major, there was a pattern of players climbing the rankings quickly, making finals, occasionally winning whatever major Serena didn't, and then disappearing as quickly as they'd burst through. It's not like that now, there is real quality at the top end, players like Sabalenka, Rybakina and Swiatek compete consistently for top honours and you have to be making finals on a regular basis to be able to break through and compete with them. I hope Emma can find some fitness and step up but I don't think she'll ever get close to matching the hype around her. |
Sadly I agree.
I also think physically when you see Sabbalenka and others now, it's a stark contrast with our Emma.
You can see it on the court but I walked past her in London not that long ago - just doesn't have the same presence as some of the others on the tour at all. Very slender by comparison, more the build of a swimmer than a female tennis player. [Post edited 29 Jun 11:34]
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| Raducanu out of Wimbledon on 12:08 - Jun 29 with 866 views | bsw72 |
| Raducanu out of Wimbledon on 11:28 - Jun 29 by nrb1985 |
On a related note - watch the Nadal netflix doc.
Bloke seems like he's been in constant pain since he was about 15.
You worry about the quality of life some of these people will have later down the line. [Post edited 29 Jun 11:33]
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One of the people I work with a lot is an ex cheer team member from Louisiana State Uni. She's just turned 30 and suffers from a number of ongoing issues which require management.
Crazy really, but when you are young(er) you tend to think you can just push through and it will be ok. | | | |
| Raducanu out of Wimbledon on 13:08 - Jun 29 with 739 views | hype313 |
| Raducanu out of Wimbledon on 11:28 - Jun 29 by nrb1985 |
On a related note - watch the Nadal netflix doc.
Bloke seems like he's been in constant pain since he was about 15.
You worry about the quality of life some of these people will have later down the line. [Post edited 29 Jun 11:33]
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He looks in a rough state bless him, Agassi and a few others said early in his career that given his style of play he'd be finished by the time he reaches 29/30, the fact that he managed a lot longer and still won is testament to his mentality, but I do wonder at what physical cost.
Murray obviously has his hip issue, Federer's knees are shot, sometimes it's best to call it before it calls you. | |
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| Raducanu out of Wimbledon on 13:37 - Jun 29 with 680 views | nrb1985 |
| Raducanu out of Wimbledon on 13:08 - Jun 29 by hype313 |
He looks in a rough state bless him, Agassi and a few others said early in his career that given his style of play he'd be finished by the time he reaches 29/30, the fact that he managed a lot longer and still won is testament to his mentality, but I do wonder at what physical cost.
Murray obviously has his hip issue, Federer's knees are shot, sometimes it's best to call it before it calls you. |
You hope with the advancement in healthcare and sports science top level athletes of modern times will be have a higher quality of life from those of previous eras.
But yeah, watching the Nadal doc, you do wonder at what cost this has all come - especially with a young family. | | | |
| Raducanu out of Wimbledon on 14:08 - Jun 29 with 618 views | mellowblue |
| Raducanu out of Wimbledon on 10:55 - Jun 29 by ArnoldMoorhen |
The worst thing was sacking the coach who got her there. She hasn't had a settled coach since. Her Dad's theory is that you should hire a coach for a few months, squeeze every drop of knowledge out of them, then sign up with a new one.
I can't help but feel that a coach who knew her game inside out, who had a trusted relationship with her, and who had security of tenure might just have had her long term interests at heart and she might have built sustainably on the US Open win. |
probably why she has gone full circle and re-hired the coach who helped her win the US Open in 2021. I really cannot warm to her at all. Got lucky winning in 2021 with all the covid disruptions going on. | | | |
| Raducanu out of Wimbledon on 14:08 - Jun 29 with 618 views | Smoresy |
| Raducanu out of Wimbledon on 08:34 - Jun 29 by nrb1985 |
Arguably the US open win was the worst thing that could have happened.
She's carried the weight of that around with her ever since and doesn't look like she's coped too well with the pressure.
Also, injuries aside, the commercial opportunities she's been afforded on the back of it have, by general consensus, not been particularly helpful in terms of keeping her eye on the ball - excuse the pun.
Hope she gets back to something like what she was but not confident. I think she'll go the same way as Kournikova. [Post edited 29 Jun 8:36]
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Do you think she'd have gone on to better things in the sport had she not won? I suspect she may have avoided much of the instability she put herself through afterwards, which may have led to a steadier climb up the rankings, but I also suspect she'd now be on zero grand slam titles rather than two or more.
Leylah Fernandez was her similarly young opponent in that final and neither's had a deep run since, despite different paths. Both still in the early stage of their careers mind if body and mind are willing! From what I've seen it isn't desire that's holding Emma back currently - she was pretty loud at Queen's. | | | |
| Raducanu out of Wimbledon on 16:58 - Jun 29 with 504 views | Keno |
| Raducanu out of Wimbledon on 11:00 - Jun 29 by mellowblue |
The same happened to Laura Robson a few years back. Her wrist could not take the punishment. The women's game has developed physically over the last few years and any one of a smaller structure or stature can struggle with the physicality demands. The likes of Sabalenka are so physically strong, Serena being the template others have followed. Re the strain issues, it is the repetitive nature as well which must be a killer. As well as the sheer quantity of serves and returns when competition and practice work are all added up. Compared to how many times a footballer will hit a ball with pace (with a bigger muscle/bone set as well), there is absolutely no comparison. |
There was a poster on here who suffered a wrist injury whenever Laura Robson played |  |
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