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Didn't realise the National Trust allows trail hunting on its grounds. on 17:44 - Jun 25 by monytowbray
That's called intervening with nature. It is not a requirement of nature, but a decision of humans.
Sometimes we have to 'intervene' because we dominate nature so much that most of the time it's out of kilter with what would be 'natural' in any case. Dear numbers being a case in point where they run rampant and over-graze because there's no predator to keep numbers at a sustainable level (we killed all the predators).
I'm talking about proper land management here though, not doing it for 'sport'.
Didn't realise the National Trust allows trail hunting on its grounds. on 18:38 - Jun 25 by Swansea_Blue
Sometimes we have to 'intervene' because we dominate nature so much that most of the time it's out of kilter with what would be 'natural' in any case. Dear numbers being a case in point where they run rampant and over-graze because there's no predator to keep numbers at a sustainable level (we killed all the predators).
I'm talking about proper land management here though, not doing it for 'sport'.
Land management is, as you say, for our means though. You can't blame deforestation on animals when we knowlingly caused it.
But I do agree there is a big ethical difference between culls and sport killing, although I don't agree with either.
Didn't realise the National Trust allows trail hunting on its grounds. on 18:38 - Jun 25 by Swansea_Blue
Sometimes we have to 'intervene' because we dominate nature so much that most of the time it's out of kilter with what would be 'natural' in any case. Dear numbers being a case in point where they run rampant and over-graze because there's no predator to keep numbers at a sustainable level (we killed all the predators).
I'm talking about proper land management here though, not doing it for 'sport'.
is that old dears or deers
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forensic experts say footers and spruces fingerprints were not found at the scene after the weekends rows
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Didn't realise the National Trust allows trail hunting on its grounds. on 19:47 - Jun 25 with 5052 views
As a general point, by remaining a member but repeatedly contacting the relevant people within the organisation letting them know your position you're probably more likely to effect change.
The National Trust is moving in the right direction with regards driven grouse shooting tenants on their land, as well. The incidents that have triggered this backlash against hunting were pretty poor, it's likely the NT will respond positively soon I'd reckon.
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Didn't realise the National Trust allows trail hunting on its grounds. on 19:47 - Jun 25 with 5048 views
Didn't realise the National Trust allows trail hunting on its grounds. on 18:47 - Jun 25 by monytowbray
Land management is, as you say, for our means though. You can't blame deforestation on animals when we knowlingly caused it.
But I do agree there is a big ethical difference between culls and sport killing, although I don't agree with either.
Over the last twenty years or so there has been a big push on some highland estates to reduce unnaturally high deer numbers to allow upland woodlands to regenerate, with benefits for a whole range of other species.
Estates that run commercial deer stalking operations have been fighting this as much as possible - where deer stalking is run as a business, the estate typically will only take stags to maintain as high a density of deer as they can, resulting in a much degraded environment.
When people say of 'sport' hunting, 'well how would you control xxxx', it's either ignorance or disingenuous. In almost all cases, for the sport to exist an unnaturally high number of the target species must be maintained, which results in various negative impacts for other species and the wider environment.
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Didn't realise the National Trust allows trail hunting on its grounds. on 20:17 - Jun 25 with 4977 views