| Have you bought your last car? on 10:37 - Oct 10 with 4835 views | JakeITFC |
There is also the fact that if the nation goes for EV, we'd in fact be adding millions of small batteries to the grid which could be used (as in charged and discharged) via smart charging points.
Flexibility is the key for future energy markets, of which EVs play a massive part. |  | |  |
| Have you bought your last car? on 10:50 - Oct 10 with 4826 views | Bluefish |
| Have you bought your last car? on 10:25 - Oct 10 by Guthrum |
They're going to have to increase the number of charging points at places like supermarkets, for all those people not able to park (and thus charge) their vehicle at home. Plugging in whilst doing the shopping would be an ideal solution (unless you order it online and get delivered  ). |
I am sure when we moved to the ICE we needed to add a few petrol stations as well. Charging points are arguably easier to resolve. |  |
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| Have you bought your last car? on 11:52 - Oct 10 with 4790 views | Vic |
| Have you bought your last car? on 10:20 - Oct 10 by Guthrum |
Battery technology is a fast-moving area of development. Think of the power consumption still with good battery life of a relatively lightweight modern phone compared with even a few years ago. |
I'm currently researching ways to incorporate a wireless charging system into road construction. A bit like Scalextric, but without the groove to guide the cars. |  |
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| Have you bought your last car? on 12:00 - Oct 10 with 4785 views | agentp |
| Have you bought your last car? on 10:12 - Oct 10 by Bluefish |
That is utter bollox on all accounts
There are 300 mile cars on the market from Kia and Hyundai without needing to include the jag or tesla
Do You really think that is true about electric cars breaking down? It is utter rubbish But they probably see that many cars that have run out of fuel or misfueled |
To be fair your text-book reply doesn't match the reality.
1, Yeah 300 mile cars, but they rarely do 300 miles. The scenario's are no different to MPG figures. Yeah you stick to 50 on the motorway and run no devices etc, you may get somewhere near, but 300 miles is by no means guaranteed.
2, It is also difficult to charge a regularly used electric car to its full capacity, so you are usually heading off lacking a little juice.
3, The 300 mile range doesn't add up in rural areas/hills etc. Blimey the range drops off in those areas.
150-200 miles is expected in the conditions/reality world over the brochure/salesman world. [Post edited 10 Oct 2018 12:01]
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| Have you bought your last car? on 12:12 - Oct 10 with 4772 views | King_of_Portman_Rd |
| Have you bought your last car? on 11:52 - Oct 10 by Vic |
I'm currently researching ways to incorporate a wireless charging system into road construction. A bit like Scalextric, but without the groove to guide the cars. |
Sweden have already trialed a 'charging road' and are planning on rolling it out far and wide.
https://www.theguardian.com/environment/2018/apr/12/worlds-first-electrified-roa
In Holland they have already tested a Cycle route that that generates power as well, which I think would be a relatively simple model to use around the world.
https://cleantechnica.com/2017/03/12/dutch-solar-bike-path-solaroad-successful-e
I've also seen motorways and railway lines that have small turbines placed inbetween carriageway/tracks so that wind from passing vehicles turns the turbines and generate power... Which seems so simple, yet effective, but I assume the transfer of this power to the grid is the next/biggest hurdle. |  | | |
| Have you bought your last car? on 12:27 - Oct 10 with 4759 views | Ryorry |
Have they also got plans for the surplus hot air on TWTD? Could probably run a small town with that (ably assisted by the Hamsters' surplus ..) |  |
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| Have you bought your last car? on 12:32 - Oct 10 with 4753 views | Vic |
| Have you bought your last car? on 12:27 - Oct 10 by Ryorry |
Have they also got plans for the surplus hot air on TWTD? Could probably run a small town with that (ably assisted by the Hamsters' surplus ..) |
Yes they have. I understand that a converting facility is being set up near Frimley soon. Other sites are being investigated, with suggested requested. | |
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| Have you bought your last car? on 13:27 - Oct 10 with 4722 views | Kievthegreat |
Having recently gone electric I thought I'd share my thoughts. So we have 2 cars in our house, a RAV4 (Petrol) and my new Renault Zoe (BEV). Now primarily the Zoe will be for my commute of 70 miles round trip everyday, but we'll venture further afield too, we did 120 miles last weekend going to MK and back and had buckets of range left. And that's not driving at 50 with the Air con off, that 65-70 mph all the way (roadworks permitting). Today I drove in to work like a hooligan and I'm still on track for 150 miles range. So range (for me) isn't a worry in the slightest.
The main benefit though is cost. I'm paying a fraction of the price on electricity versus diesel or petrol. I'd need to car to do a legitimate 100+mpg to have the same costs. Also no petrol stations, just plug in when I get home and unplug in the morning before I drive off. Much easier.
It's also great fun to drive, there's plenty of torque and no gears so it accelerates from standstill so quickly and easily. And when next year's Zoe come along with CCS rapid charging and potentially charges to 180+ mile (real world range) in 30 minutes, why would I even look at an ICE? |  | | |
| Have you bought your last car? on 13:45 - Oct 10 with 4701 views | No9 |
| Have you bought your last car? on 07:20 - Oct 10 by jeera |
Can't see too many Welsh farmers buying into that can you. |
Nor East Anglian farmers | | | |
| Have you bought your last car? on 13:47 - Oct 10 with 4701 views | No9 |
When it comes to Electric vehicles the UK is a long way behind other countries particularly in charging the battery's
The way we are going it will be back to TVO | | | |
| Have you bought your last car? on 14:10 - Oct 10 with 4686 views | Throbbe |
| Have you bought your last car? on 10:25 - Oct 10 by Guthrum |
They're going to have to increase the number of charging points at places like supermarkets, for all those people not able to park (and thus charge) their vehicle at home. Plugging in whilst doing the shopping would be an ideal solution (unless you order it online and get delivered ). |
You've identified the real issue (not unusually, and I feel thrilled to finally add some further information to a Guthers post) as being distribution, not generation.
The government are currently pushing for new houses to incorporate vehicle charging facilities, and certainly in some large housing developments we (I work in infrastructure/land development) are looking at putting in facilities for a separate power network for charging points.
Personally, I think this is the wrong approach. It will need the development of faster charging (and tesla already have it, so it's near future, not 20 years away), then as electric replaces internal combustion we utilise the existing network of petrol stations to provide rapid charging facilities, supplemented by localised overnight charging areas (to be implemented in public car parks, charges could be combined).
In relation to the OP, I think we're still some way away from widespread adoption of driverless cars, but next year my office is moving to a city centre location in Cambridge and we will have 2 parking spaces for 60 staff, so for business trips I can see us using a car club approach rather than people using their own transport. |  |
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| Have you bought your last car? on 14:27 - Oct 10 with 4664 views | No9 |
I understand they have an electric charging road in operation in Czechoslovakia | | | |
| Have you bought your last car? on 16:38 - Oct 10 with 4627 views | StokieBlue |
| Have you bought your last car? on 14:27 - Oct 10 by No9 |
I understand they have an electric charging road in operation in Czechoslovakia |
That country hasn't existed for longer than some of our board members have been alive!
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| Have you bought your last car? on 16:43 - Oct 10 with 4624 views | chicoazul |
Hilarious.
I tend to think that, because the US is dysfunctional on so many levels for e.g. it doesnt have a properly functioning banking system, the Developers of all these apps assume everyone else has the same problems |  |
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| Have you bought your last car? on 16:50 - Oct 10 with 4618 views | StokieBlue |
| Have you bought your last car? on 16:43 - Oct 10 by chicoazul |
Hilarious.
I tend to think that, because the US is dysfunctional on so many levels for e.g. it doesnt have a properly functioning banking system, the Developers of all these apps assume everyone else has the same problems |
Plenty wrong with the US but in what way does it not have a properly functioning banking system?
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| Have you bought your last car? on 17:03 - Oct 10 with 4609 views | chicoazul |
| Have you bought your last car? on 16:50 - Oct 10 by StokieBlue |
Plenty wrong with the US but in what way does it not have a properly functioning banking system?
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Loads of people still get paid by cheque and have to pay rent or other bills by cheque for instance. | |
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| Have you bought your last car? on 17:16 - Oct 10 with 4603 views | StokieBlue |
| Have you bought your last car? on 17:03 - Oct 10 by chicoazul |
Loads of people still get paid by cheque and have to pay rent or other bills by cheque for instance. |
Certainly you have a fair point with regards to personal and retail banking for the masses.
They are miles behind.
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| Have you bought your last car? on 17:27 - Oct 10 with 4590 views | chicoazul |
| Have you bought your last car? on 17:16 - Oct 10 by StokieBlue |
Certainly you have a fair point with regards to personal and retail banking for the masses.
They are miles behind.
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Sorry that's my fault, I didnt make it clear! Thats what I meant. | |
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| Have you bought your last car? on 17:29 - Oct 10 with 4589 views | WeWereZombies |
| Have you bought your last car? on 17:16 - Oct 10 by StokieBlue |
Certainly you have a fair point with regards to personal and retail banking for the masses.
They are miles behind.
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And let's not forget Freddie Mac and Fannie Mae, oh and Lehman Brothers.
But then we hosted Barings and have had to pay through the nose to keep RBS and Halifax/BoS going.
But despite those, and other cases going further back such as BCCI here and that Long Term Capital lot in the States there is at least a stab at World class regulation, compared to, say, Italy. |  |
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| Have you bought your last car? on 18:01 - Oct 10 with 4578 views | jjblue84 |
| Have you bought your last car? on 09:30 - Oct 10 by StokieBlue |
A far more solvable problem than climate change and emissions.
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It’s solvable, but not currently in the plans of our energy policy for the next 20 years!! |  | | |
| Have you bought your last car? on 18:03 - Oct 10 with 4575 views | JakeITFC |
| Have you bought your last car? on 18:01 - Oct 10 by jjblue84 |
It’s solvable, but not currently in the plans of our energy policy for the next 20 years!! |
Are you expecting the overnight peak through charging to surpass the current daytime peak? | | | |
| Have you bought your last car? on 18:49 - Oct 10 with 4557 views | tractorboy7777 |
This line gets me:
“But think of the hundreds of billions of dollars consumers will save, and which can now be spent elsewhere in the economy.”
For cities yes it might work but for the countryside villagers where there’s currently one bus an hour, you’d need to order your own taxi everyday to make sure you get to work. Which means that that “money” we’ll be able to spend will go straight into travel again! | |
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| Have you bought your last car? on 19:54 - Oct 10 with 4526 views | Ryorry |
| Have you bought your last car? on 17:29 - Oct 10 by WeWereZombies |
And let's not forget Freddie Mac and Fannie Mae, oh and Lehman Brothers.
But then we hosted Barings and have had to pay through the nose to keep RBS and Halifax/BoS going.
But despite those, and other cases going further back such as BCCI here and that Long Term Capital lot in the States there is at least a stab at World class regulation, compared to, say, Italy. |
Fantastic prog on Mon night on BBC2, notable particularly for the inside views & thoughts of those intimately concerned, incl Alistair Darling. Very clear explanations of how the crisis arose -
https://www.bbc.co.uk/iplayer/episode/b0bmbhzb/the-bank-that-almost-broke-britai | |
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| Have you bought your last car? on 21:33 - Oct 10 with 4503 views | jjblue84 |
| Have you bought your last car? on 18:03 - Oct 10 by JakeITFC |
Are you expecting the overnight peak through charging to surpass the current daytime peak? |
Possibly | | | |
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