| Downes 10:40 - Nov 29 with 6465 views | pablosturn |
Has anyone ever seen Downes and Hyam in the same room? Another "one of our own" who is utter rubbish. Don't understand what he brings to our first team apart from running around a lot?
happy to be educated here, he just seems to drift through games, I accept he is young and in the England set up at his age group, but he shows nothing to me that he should be in a matchday 18. |  | | |  |
| Downes on 10:41 - Nov 29 with 5236 views | itfcjoe |
Time to start blaming the academy boys again
Scowie, Matt Richards, Luke Hyam - it's always the same with you idiots. |  |
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| Downes on 10:46 - Nov 29 with 5195 views | Cuffy81 |
🤔 I thought he was our best player second half, showed more fight and determination than most. | | | |
| Downes on 10:47 - Nov 29 with 5192 views | itfc48 |
Thought he was much better than Chalaboh (who's the same age group and has been touted as a future full England international) | | | |
| Downes on 10:50 - Nov 29 with 5173 views | Swansea_Blue |
| Downes on 10:41 - Nov 29 by itfcjoe |
Time to start blaming the academy boys again
Scowie, Matt Richards, Luke Hyam - it's always the same with you idiots. |
Quite. It's unrealistic to rely on them. Lankester for example - just because he shows a couple of touches people are clamouring for him to lead our line.
There are a few decent youngsters coming through, but they need to be nurtured. We shouldn't be throwing them to the lions and expecting them to save the team. But I suppose that just reflects how desperate we are.
Hurst has left us in a right pickle. |  |
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| Downes on 10:51 - Nov 29 with 5162 views | King_of_Portman_Rd |
I'd wager that with all our fanfare and optimism over the likes of Dozzell, that Downes ends up having a more prosperous career in Football than any player we've produced in a long long time.
He is still very green but already has a pretty well rounded game and reminds me of someone like Ward-Prowse.. Efficient in possession and prepared to get stuck in and do the ugly work in the middle of the park.. Plus he seems our best dead ball specialist currently. |  | | |
| Downes on 10:52 - Nov 29 with 5159 views | JimmyJazz |
| Downes on 10:47 - Nov 29 by itfc48 |
Thought he was much better than Chalaboh (who's the same age group and has been touted as a future full England international) |
yep, thought he was a positive along with Sears and Skuse. Chalobah needs a rest, he'll be another Maitland-Niles who drops away as the season progresses and in a couple of years will be playing in the Prem |  |
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| Downes on 10:53 - Nov 29 with 5154 views | BloomBlue |
You'll be the first to moan if he leaves about 'we should've kept him' |  | | |
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| Downes on 10:53 - Nov 29 with 5156 views | itfcjoe |
| Downes on 10:50 - Nov 29 by Swansea_Blue |
Quite. It's unrealistic to rely on them. Lankester for example - just because he shows a couple of touches people are clamouring for him to lead our line.
There are a few decent youngsters coming through, but they need to be nurtured. We shouldn't be throwing them to the lions and expecting them to save the team. But I suppose that just reflects how desperate we are.
Hurst has left us in a right pickle. |
Saw a tweet last night along lines of 'if anyone other than Lankester had taken that sh*t corner they'd have been slated'
Like it is a bad thing that an 18 year old who hits a poor corner isn't given dogs abuse for it | |
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| Downes on 10:54 - Nov 29 with 5151 views | Kieran_Knows |
| Downes on 10:50 - Nov 29 by Swansea_Blue |
Quite. It's unrealistic to rely on them. Lankester for example - just because he shows a couple of touches people are clamouring for him to lead our line.
There are a few decent youngsters coming through, but they need to be nurtured. We shouldn't be throwing them to the lions and expecting them to save the team. But I suppose that just reflects how desperate we are.
Hurst has left us in a right pickle. |
In fairness (and my opinion), the 2/3 cameo appearances from Lankester have been promising, and he does seemed to have offered more in 20 minutes when coming on than Edwards had in the 70 odd minutes previous (mainly talking Friday night and last night). I think I'd start him Saturday, although I'm not claiming him to be some sort of saviour.
Certainly agree about Hurst, what a shambles of a squad he left behind. |  |
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| Downes on 10:55 - Nov 29 with 5146 views | King_of_Portman_Rd |
| Downes on 10:52 - Nov 29 by JimmyJazz |
yep, thought he was a positive along with Sears and Skuse. Chalobah needs a rest, he'll be another Maitland-Niles who drops away as the season progresses and in a couple of years will be playing in the Prem |
I said when we signed him that we'd end up comparing him to AMN.. A player that we brought to the club a year too early to have any real impact for a team battling it out in the lower reaches of the Championship.. and not getting the opportunity to reap the rewards of the lessons they learn with us...
Chalobah will be a hell of a player in a few years time though. | | | |
| Downes on 10:59 - Nov 29 with 5126 views | pablosturn |
| Downes on 10:41 - Nov 29 by itfcjoe |
Time to start blaming the academy boys again
Scowie, Matt Richards, Luke Hyam - it's always the same with you idiots. |
Have we got to be positive about every young academy player, or can we have an opinion that is to the contrary?
My point is I don't really know what type of player he is? He works hard, but I just don't know how effective he is? People really do overreact to posts asking whether a player is good enough to be in our first team.
Luke Hyam was/is a terrible midfielder who tries hard, the rest I have never slated at all. You must know more than me Joe as you have obviously have superior superfan knowledge. | | | |
| Downes on 11:01 - Nov 29 with 5108 views | pablosturn |
| Downes on 10:51 - Nov 29 by King_of_Portman_Rd |
I'd wager that with all our fanfare and optimism over the likes of Dozzell, that Downes ends up having a more prosperous career in Football than any player we've produced in a long long time.
He is still very green but already has a pretty well rounded game and reminds me of someone like Ward-Prowse.. Efficient in possession and prepared to get stuck in and do the ugly work in the middle of the park.. Plus he seems our best dead ball specialist currently. |
lol " best dead ball specialist" I have never seen one of those hit a ball straight out of play, although laursen Toure did it once when he kicked a corner flag! | | | |
| Downes on 11:02 - Nov 29 with 5106 views | itfcjoe |
| Downes on 10:59 - Nov 29 by pablosturn |
Have we got to be positive about every young academy player, or can we have an opinion that is to the contrary?
My point is I don't really know what type of player he is? He works hard, but I just don't know how effective he is? People really do overreact to posts asking whether a player is good enough to be in our first team.
Luke Hyam was/is a terrible midfielder who tries hard, the rest I have never slated at all. You must know more than me Joe as you have obviously have superior superfan knowledge. |
I'm sorry but
"People really do overreact to posts asking whether a player is good enough to be in our first team."
is not what this says
"Another "one of our own" who is utter rubbish"
So no need to try and backtrack now | |
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| Downes on 11:03 - Nov 29 with 5091 views | Gooders7592 |
Hyam's Ipswich career was ruined by injuries and I don't think he'll ever fully recover.
Downes is playing in a side which is lack of confidence and very poor for the league. However, I think he has been the shining light since PL has come in. I'd like to see Downes, Dozzell and Skuse play together as a 3. | | | |
| Downes on 11:04 - Nov 29 with 5083 views | pablosturn |
| Downes on 11:02 - Nov 29 by itfcjoe |
I'm sorry but
"People really do overreact to posts asking whether a player is good enough to be in our first team."
is not what this says
"Another "one of our own" who is utter rubbish"
So no need to try and backtrack now |
Not backtracking at all, I don't know what he brings to a midfield 3? Skuse does the dirty work and distributes neatly, chalobah box to box (although v hit and miss), maybe he is just the wrong type of player but in the current role I stand by the point that he looks terribly out of his depth. | | | |
| Downes on 11:07 - Nov 29 with 5066 views | chicoazul |
Delete your account. |  |
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| Downes on 11:08 - Nov 29 with 5051 views | Smithy |
| Downes on 11:03 - Nov 29 by Gooders7592 |
Hyam's Ipswich career was ruined by injuries and I don't think he'll ever fully recover.
Downes is playing in a side which is lack of confidence and very poor for the league. However, I think he has been the shining light since PL has come in. I'd like to see Downes, Dozzell and Skuse play together as a 3. |
Agree with this, Dozzell should be in instead of Chalobah he's ours and I actually think he's a better player anyhow. |  |
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| Downes on 11:09 - Nov 29 with 5043 views | pablosturn |
| Downes on 11:07 - Nov 29 by chicoazul |
Delete your account. |
Because I have negative opinion on a academy prospect who is playing in the first team, who are in grave danger of being relegated? Yeah nice one | | | |
| Downes on 11:11 - Nov 29 with 5041 views | Reuser_is_God |
He does drift through games but we can put that down to him being a rookie at the minute.
I hope there is a player in there though & he does seem similar to Hyam. I thought Hyam was decent enough by the way so I wouldn’t use that as a slur against Downes. |  |
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| Downes on 11:11 - Nov 29 with 5030 views | itfcjoe |
| Downes on 11:04 - Nov 29 by pablosturn |
Not backtracking at all, I don't know what he brings to a midfield 3? Skuse does the dirty work and distributes neatly, chalobah box to box (although v hit and miss), maybe he is just the wrong type of player but in the current role I stand by the point that he looks terribly out of his depth. |
It is a back track, because you are trying to claim your OP was a reasonable post debating pros and cons of Downes and his place in the team, not hyperbolic rubbish and a load of guff | |
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| Downes on 11:59 - Nov 29 with 4913 views | Keaneish |
What you may have overlooked is that running is a huge part of football and Downes, like Hyam hustle and harry pretty well. Thought he did well last night. Not his best performance, that was at Millwall but we need grafters at the moment and he's one. Players who wear their heart on their sleeve and work themselves into the ground should be fans favourites, no? |  |
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| Downes on 12:00 - Nov 29 with 4905 views | pablosturn |
| Downes on 11:11 - Nov 29 by itfcjoe |
It is a back track, because you are trying to claim your OP was a reasonable post debating pros and cons of Downes and his place in the team, not hyperbolic rubbish and a load of guff |
Maybe I overreacted and was fairly inarticulate, but my point still stands that as a championship footballer I believe he has very few attributes that we currently need. No creativity or drive to get in the oppositions box.
Can we afford to have someone who is largely anonymous for portions of games, I certainly don't think so! | | | |
| Downes on 12:02 - Nov 29 with 4895 views | pablosturn |
| Downes on 11:59 - Nov 29 by Keaneish |
What you may have overlooked is that running is a huge part of football and Downes, like Hyam hustle and harry pretty well. Thought he did well last night. Not his best performance, that was at Millwall but we need grafters at the moment and he's one. Players who wear their heart on their sleeve and work themselves into the ground should be fans favourites, no? |
What we really need is some creativity and drive to get at the opponents not just run around a lot.
I fail to understand why you cannot say on this forum that an academy "prospect" is not good enough without people calling for you to "delete your account" and the like. Crazy. | | | |
| Downes on 12:03 - Nov 29 with 4891 views | GlasgowBlue |
Nonsense. He didn't have his best game last night but from what I have seen of him he has looked very good.
One incident summed him up against WBA. He lost the ball in their half and sprinted like Linford Christie to get it back. |  |
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