| Fifa Generation 18:40 - Jan 1 with 3238 views | Burwell_Blue |
Those that think ‘£7 million’ is nothing, like they are tapping away furiously in their bedrooms playing Fifa make my blood boil.
It’s the real world kids. How can they be educated? Is there nothing but time that can help in this situation? |  | | |  |
| Fifa Generation on 18:41 - Jan 1 with 3218 views | pointofblue |
The problem is £7m, in footballing terms, is nothing. It would hardly buy a half decent player at this level now. |  |
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| Fifa Generation on 18:42 - Jan 1 with 3206 views | WD19 |
I think frustration on all sides is more than understandable. What nobody knows for sure is exactly what a ‘self sustaining’ Ipswich Town looks like. I am guessing not at all pretty. |  | | |
| Fifa Generation on 18:42 - Jan 1 with 3201 views | Burwell_Blue |
| Fifa Generation on 18:41 - Jan 1 by pointofblue |
The problem is £7m, in footballing terms, is nothing. It would hardly buy a half decent player at this level now. |
I don’t disagree one bit but I don’t have £7million. No one on this board does, yet the one person who does pay the bills is Satan himself because things are not going right? | | | |
| Fifa Generation on 18:44 - Jan 1 with 3184 views | J2BLUE |
It's easy to have endless ambition with someone else's money. Unfortunately in the real world choices need to be made and as much as people think they'd throw every penny at the club or hand over a winning Euromillions ticket they probably wouldn't if they were actually in that position. |  |
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| Fifa Generation on 18:44 - Jan 1 with 3178 views | blueconscience |
| Fifa Generation on 18:42 - Jan 1 by Burwell_Blue |
I don’t disagree one bit but I don’t have £7million. No one on this board does, yet the one person who does pay the bills is Satan himself because things are not going right? |
If he can’t afford to run a football club, that is his problem and it turns into our problem |  |
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| Fifa Generation on 18:46 - Jan 1 with 3160 views | pointofblue |
| Fifa Generation on 18:42 - Jan 1 by Burwell_Blue |
I don’t disagree one bit but I don’t have £7million. No one on this board does, yet the one person who does pay the bills is Satan himself because things are not going right? |
He probably needs to be a more visible, hands on owner now. He's putting the money in but we're getting to the point where fans cannot understand where it's going, what the end game is, what is feasible in terms of expectation. The deeper into the mire we go the louder the silence at the top becomes - this is the biggest month for the club in current times; how are we going to approach it? | |
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| Fifa Generation on 18:48 - Jan 1 with 3129 views | Swansea_Blue |
I’m not sure that “real world” values and expectations apply to football. I haven’t worked in too many organisations where £10k per week was seen as a low wage, for example. |  |
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| Fifa Generation on 18:49 - Jan 1 with 3104 views | Durovigutum |
Same as those who think £350 million is a lot in the government budget. Never use a number in isolation as it will say whatever narrative you give it, like perhaps 10 points from safety needs to sit with 15 points from 25 games or 7million for one player needs to sit with 18million TURNOVER. |  | | |
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| Fifa Generation on 19:08 - Jan 1 with 3033 views | ITFC_Forever |
| Fifa Generation on 18:42 - Jan 1 by WD19 |
I think frustration on all sides is more than understandable. What nobody knows for sure is exactly what a ‘self sustaining’ Ipswich Town looks like. I am guessing not at all pretty. |
A self-sustaining club plays either in the Prem, with all the riches that brings, or several levels below the Champ, where player wages are not >100% of turnover. [Post edited 1 Jan 2019 19:08]
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| Fifa Generation on 19:18 - Jan 1 with 3002 views | RegencyBlue |
In the world of football £7 million is pretty much nothing.
There is a whole different argument to be had as to whether that should be the case but it’s a fact.
I can assure you I am not part of the FIFA generation, just a long term supporter of well over 40 years who is sick and tired of watching the Evans regime run the club into the ground. I can’t afford to buy it but I’m entitled to express my disgust at what is happening. |  | | |
| Fifa Generation on 19:23 - Jan 1 with 2949 views | strikalite |
| Fifa Generation on 19:18 - Jan 1 by RegencyBlue |
In the world of football £7 million is pretty much nothing.
There is a whole different argument to be had as to whether that should be the case but it’s a fact.
I can assure you I am not part of the FIFA generation, just a long term supporter of well over 40 years who is sick and tired of watching the Evans regime run the club into the ground. I can’t afford to buy it but I’m entitled to express my disgust at what is happening. |
£7m is nothing in the Prem, an average figure for a player in the Championship, a lot of money in League One...so it's no surprise we're heading there, it's where we now belong. |  | | |
| Fifa Generation on 19:23 - Jan 1 with 2952 views | 44_not_out |
| Fifa Generation on 18:41 - Jan 1 by pointofblue |
The problem is £7m, in footballing terms, is nothing. It would hardly buy a half decent player at this level now. |
Really......?
Martyn Waghorn
Joe Garner
Adam Webster
None of the above cost anywhere near £7m.
Sadly Hurst (the ‘young hungry tracksuited’ one many thought was the new messiah) decided to sell them. | | | |
| Fifa Generation on 19:28 - Jan 1 with 2915 views | pointofblue |
| Fifa Generation on 19:23 - Jan 1 by 44_not_out |
Really......?
Martyn Waghorn
Joe Garner
Adam Webster
None of the above cost anywhere near £7m.
Sadly Hurst (the ‘young hungry tracksuited’ one many thought was the new messiah) decided to sell them. |
I said BUY; weren't Waghorn and Garner free transfers? Webster was a swap deal with Clarke. | |
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| Fifa Generation on 19:31 - Jan 1 with 2894 views | jas0999 |
It’s all relative. No different to buying a house. To some £150 K is a hell of a lot of money for a house, but to others £1M is nothing. In football terms, £7M is nothing for a championship team, assuming of course you even believe Evans puts that money in. In recent years, he has utilised transfer fee profits to subsidise that figure, then of course makes money by offsetting loses of a full debt amount, which he originally purchased a large chunk for an absolute fraction. | | | |
| Fifa Generation on 19:33 - Jan 1 with 2890 views | monytowbray |
Where does this logic end? Should wprkers not protest their bosses because they pay them? Should the public not protest spending because they only paid a % of tax? Should those protesting fracking shut up because they’re not the ones investing in any form of energy?
The answer to all of the above is “No” because it would be stupid. I pay towards this club as do many supporters. They did before Evans and will after Evans. They are entitled to express frustration as much as anyone else. |  |
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| Fifa Generation on 19:35 - Jan 1 with 2873 views | BloomBlue |
| Fifa Generation on 18:44 - Jan 1 by blueconscience |
If he can’t afford to run a football club, that is his problem and it turns into our problem |
But he can afford to run one, he's running us. The problem is he's not putting in the 100s of millions the fans want him to put in |  | | |
| Fifa Generation on 19:36 - Jan 1 with 2872 views | 44_not_out |
| Fifa Generation on 19:28 - Jan 1 by pointofblue |
I said BUY; weren't Waghorn and Garner free transfers? Webster was a swap deal with Clarke. |
Free transfers.... hmmm, I’d go and check if I were you....
Plus Clarke was only the make weight in the Webster deal. I think we paid about £750K | | | |
| Fifa Generation on 19:37 - Jan 1 with 2866 views | blueconscience |
| Fifa Generation on 19:35 - Jan 1 by BloomBlue |
But he can afford to run one, he's running us. The problem is he's not putting in the 100s of millions the fans want him to put in |
If only all the other teams considered wages as the only part of running a football club, it would be much more even. [Post edited 1 Jan 2019 19:40]
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| Fifa Generation on 20:06 - Jan 1 with 2778 views | Kievthegreat |
| Fifa Generation on 18:44 - Jan 1 by J2BLUE |
It's easy to have endless ambition with someone else's money. Unfortunately in the real world choices need to be made and as much as people think they'd throw every penny at the club or hand over a winning Euromillions ticket they probably wouldn't if they were actually in that position. |
Exactly. If I won the Euromillions I'd not buy the club. It currently loses millions every year. After a decade you'd probably be penniless, and that's without the investment needed to push things on, that's just by keeping her ticking along like Evans has done. |  | | |
| Fifa Generation on 20:10 - Jan 1 with 2761 views | pointofblue |
| Fifa Generation on 19:36 - Jan 1 by 44_not_out |
Free transfers.... hmmm, I’d go and check if I were you....
Plus Clarke was only the make weight in the Webster deal. I think we paid about £750K |
Yes, you're right, just had a brainwave in the middle of Doctor Who that we paid half a million for them, was it? Good deals all round in the end. | |
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| Fifa Generation on 20:47 - Jan 1 with 2672 views | ElderGrizzly |
| Fifa Generation on 19:31 - Jan 1 by jas0999 |
It’s all relative. No different to buying a house. To some £150 K is a hell of a lot of money for a house, but to others £1M is nothing. In football terms, £7M is nothing for a championship team, assuming of course you even believe Evans puts that money in. In recent years, he has utilised transfer fee profits to subsidise that figure, then of course makes money by offsetting loses of a full debt amount, which he originally purchased a large chunk for an absolute fraction. |
This is still as incorrect as the first time you trotted it out and the time after and the time after that. Even when Phil corrects you, you still put it.
You’re getting closer, but still no cigar |  | | |
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