| Democracy in action 15:57 - Jan 15 with 2354 views | Guthrum |
or: See, it does work
Last night, I sent an email to my local MP about this evening's vote. Just had a reply informing which side he intends to be on and why.
It's not too late to influence the outcome of this, people! Get on to your MP and tell them how you want them to vote. |  |
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| Democracy in action on 15:58 - Jan 15 with 1935 views | SpruceMoose |
So, did you manage to change his mind? |  |
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| Democracy in action on 16:00 - Jan 15 with 1914 views | Championship |
Sky predicting a 226 vote loss for May. I think this one might be over. |  | | |
| Democracy in action on 16:03 - Jan 15 with 1901 views | Marshalls_Mullet |
None of this means you influenced him in the slightest. |  |
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| Democracy in action on 16:13 - Jan 15 with 1861 views | homer_123 |
How has your email influenced your MP then Guthers? |  |
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| Democracy in action on 16:13 - Jan 15 with 1861 views | Guthrum |
| Democracy in action on 16:03 - Jan 15 by Marshalls_Mullet |
None of this means you influenced him in the slightest. |
One opinion may not, but dozens or hundreds could well do. We can't really complain about politicians ignoring our views if we only tell them once every few years. | |
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| Democracy in action on 16:15 - Jan 15 with 1849 views | Marshalls_Mullet |
| Democracy in action on 16:13 - Jan 15 by Guthrum |
One opinion may not, but dozens or hundreds could well do. We can't really complain about politicians ignoring our views if we only tell them once every few years. |
Wouldn't disagree. | |
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| Democracy in action on 16:16 - Jan 15 with 1847 views | homer_123 |
| Democracy in action on 16:13 - Jan 15 by Guthrum |
One opinion may not, but dozens or hundreds could well do. We can't really complain about politicians ignoring our views if we only tell them once every few years. |
How should your MP vote though? Should he/ she vote based on the referendum result? How their constituency voted or what they feel is for the greater good of the nation, potentially ignoring both of the above? | |
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| Democracy in action on 16:18 - Jan 15 with 1834 views | Guthrum |
The OP was more to emphasise that MPs don't just ignore our communications and go their merry way. They are willing to account for their voting intentions. | |
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| Democracy in action on 16:22 - Jan 15 with 1826 views | Guthrum |
| Democracy in action on 16:16 - Jan 15 by homer_123 |
How should your MP vote though? Should he/ she vote based on the referendum result? How their constituency voted or what they feel is for the greater good of the nation, potentially ignoring both of the above? |
In reality, they should vote how their constituents direct. This will be a judgment call based on several of those factors. But they ought to be able to justify it (or if they think it should be overridden for practical reasons, the national interest, etc.). | |
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| Democracy in action on 16:24 - Jan 15 with 1818 views | Marshalls_Mullet |
| Democracy in action on 16:18 - Jan 15 by Guthrum |
The OP was more to emphasise that MPs don't just ignore our communications and go their merry way. They are willing to account for their voting intentions. |
So they should.
I must admit, when I have been in touch with local MP's in the past they have been helpful. | |
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| Democracy in action on 16:26 - Jan 15 with 1814 views | Cotty |
| Democracy in action on 16:22 - Jan 15 by Guthrum |
In reality, they should vote how their constituents direct. This will be a judgment call based on several of those factors. But they ought to be able to justify it (or if they think it should be overridden for practical reasons, the national interest, etc.). |
I'm not sure that's quite right. We vote for a representative, but that representative must use their own judgement. It is their judgement that we have voted for in our system. |  | | |
| Democracy in action on 16:29 - Jan 15 with 1792 views | No9 |
| Democracy in action on 16:24 - Jan 15 by Marshalls_Mullet |
So they should.
I must admit, when I have been in touch with local MP's in the past they have been helpful. |
My MP was very helpful when he was in opposition more so if your issues aligned with his views
Since the tories got in he has at best been 'unhelpfull' |  | | |
| Democracy in action on 16:33 - Jan 15 with 1775 views | Guthrum |
| Democracy in action on 16:26 - Jan 15 by Cotty |
I'm not sure that's quite right. We vote for a representative, but that representative must use their own judgement. It is their judgement that we have voted for in our system. |
Their judgment only comes into play absent of instructions from the constituency. We only abdicate all responsibility if we choose to (or fail to take part). | |
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| Democracy in action on 16:34 - Jan 15 with 1771 views | homer_123 |
| Democracy in action on 16:26 - Jan 15 by Cotty |
I'm not sure that's quite right. We vote for a representative, but that representative must use their own judgement. It is their judgement that we have voted for in our system. |
Interesting view Cotty. | |
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| Democracy in action on 16:37 - Jan 15 with 1765 views | Championship |
| Democracy in action on 16:26 - Jan 15 by Cotty |
I'm not sure that's quite right. We vote for a representative, but that representative must use their own judgement. It is their judgement that we have voted for in our system. |
How does that work with the likes of Jacon Rees-Mogg and his religion based opposition to gay marriage etc? | | | |
| Democracy in action on 17:21 - Jan 15 with 1724 views | factual_blue |
| Democracy in action on 16:26 - Jan 15 by Cotty |
I'm not sure that's quite right. We vote for a representative, but that representative must use their own judgement. It is their judgement that we have voted for in our system. |
Indeed. They are, and always have been, representatives, not delegates. |  |
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| Democracy in action on 17:22 - Jan 15 with 1721 views | factual_blue |
| Democracy in action on 16:37 - Jan 15 by Championship |
How does that work with the likes of Jacon Rees-Mogg and his religion based opposition to gay marriage etc? |
Simple. Don't vote for him and his 16th century view of the world. | |
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| Democracy in action on 17:37 - Jan 15 with 1698 views | Herbivore |
My MP has never voted against her party and I can't imagine that's going to change today. |  |
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| Democracy in action on 17:41 - Jan 15 with 1691 views | Ryorry |
| Democracy in action on 16:26 - Jan 15 by Cotty |
I'm not sure that's quite right. We vote for a representative, but that representative must use their own judgement. It is their judgement that we have voted for in our system. |
If we'd done that, we wouldn't have shot ourselves in the foot, stomach, heart & head by having a bleeping referendum in the first place!
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| Democracy in action on 17:55 - Jan 15 with 1671 views | Ryorry |
| Democracy in action on 16:33 - Jan 15 by Guthrum |
Their judgment only comes into play absent of instructions from the constituency. We only abdicate all responsibility if we choose to (or fail to take part). |
TBH Guthers, I find the Brexit situation now so confused and confusing that I'd actually have no idea which way to ask my MP to vote (not that he'd take the blindest bit of notice anyway, as he's Tory Chief Whip Julian Smith!).
As far as I can see, there's no real answer as to what's "best" for the UK overall? | |
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| Democracy in action on 17:57 - Jan 15 with 1662 views | StokieBlue |
Doesn't that mean he had already decided?
This post could easily be from someone with the opposite view stating their opinion was being ignored.
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| Democracy in action on 18:06 - Jan 15 with 1639 views | Swansea_Blue |
| Democracy in action on 17:55 - Jan 15 by Ryorry |
TBH Guthers, I find the Brexit situation now so confused and confusing that I'd actually have no idea which way to ask my MP to vote (not that he'd take the blindest bit of notice anyway, as he's Tory Chief Whip Julian Smith!).
As far as I can see, there's no real answer as to what's "best" for the UK overall? |
Therein lies the problem with this vote. Rejecting May’d deal could end up with us leaving with no deal or remaining on our current terms, or anywhere in between. |  |
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| Democracy in action on 18:44 - Jan 15 with 1618 views | BlueBadger |
| Democracy in action on 17:22 - Jan 15 by factual_blue |
Simple. Don't vote for him and his 16th century view of the world. |
Ironically enough, deeply Catholic Rees-Mogg would have likely faced similar levels of bigotry for being a Catholic that he now expresses towards gay people. |  |
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| Democracy in action on 18:46 - Jan 15 with 1613 views | SpruceMoose |
| Democracy in action on 18:44 - Jan 15 by BlueBadger |
Ironically enough, deeply Catholic Rees-Mogg would have likely faced similar levels of bigotry for being a Catholic that he now expresses towards gay people. |
Gay folk haven't tried to blow up the houses of Parliament. Yet.
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"Imagine being a heterosexual white male in Britain at this moment. How bad is that. Everything you say is racist, everything you say is homophobic. The Woke community have really f****d this country." | | Poll: | Selectamod |
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| Democracy in action on 19:09 - Jan 15 with 1596 views | BlueBadger |
| Democracy in action on 17:55 - Jan 15 by Ryorry |
TBH Guthers, I find the Brexit situation now so confused and confusing that I'd actually have no idea which way to ask my MP to vote (not that he'd take the blindest bit of notice anyway, as he's Tory Chief Whip Julian Smith!).
As far as I can see, there's no real answer as to what's "best" for the UK overall? |
There is. It's 'forget this whole sorry farce ever happened, repeal Article 50 and tell whining gammons to stop crying because they'll be dead soon'. | |
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