| Boris is on fire 16:03 - Sep 16 with 4415 views | SpruceMoose |
Booed on arrival
Chickened out of holding a press conference
Chased out of town
Humiliated by the leader of Luxembourg
, brexit [Post edited 16 Sep 2019 16:03]
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"Imagine being a heterosexual white male in Britain at this moment. How bad is that. Everything you say is racist, everything you say is homophobic. The Woke community have really f****d this country." | | Poll: | Selectamod |
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| Boris is on fire on 17:18 - Sep 16 with 1474 views | SpruceMoose |
| Boris is on fire on 16:58 - Sep 16 by ActionMan |
Why, what's Corbyn's position on Brexit this week, today, this year, moment, hour? Your joke leader is as bad as the Boris joke. It's an IQ test in itself to vote for anyone in a red, blue or yellow rosette because clearly you have to be sub average to believe any of the sh1t they say. |
What has Corbyn got to do with this?
I see you've been going to the TWTD Whatabouterry Nightschool, held weekly at the Con Club and facilitated by [REDACTED]. [Post edited 16 Sep 2019 17:19]
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"Imagine being a heterosexual white male in Britain at this moment. How bad is that. Everything you say is racist, everything you say is homophobic. The Woke community have really f****d this country." | | Poll: | Selectamod |
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| Boris is on fire on 17:31 - Sep 16 with 1454 views | Guthrum |
| Boris is on fire on 16:31 - Sep 16 by blueislander |
Supreme Court decision tomorrow, but I cannot see that they will find that Boris lied to the Queen. They can only rule on the law, not on what they think may be the truth I fear. It would be great fun if the ruling did go against him though. |
The main issue is not about Johnson lying to the Queen, but whether the courts have any juristiction in this case. If it is ruled purely a political decision (as the lower Scottish and English courts did), then they do not. |  |
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| Boris is on fire on 17:40 - Sep 16 with 1441 views | WeWereZombies |
| Boris is on fire on 17:31 - Sep 16 by Guthrum |
The main issue is not about Johnson lying to the Queen, but whether the courts have any juristiction in this case. If it is ruled purely a political decision (as the lower Scottish and English courts did), then they do not. |
The key word in your post is 'purely', that old adage about everything being political may have some people asking why the courts are involved at all. I guess the answer is that Parliamentary procedure is involved as well and that if it has been abused for the advancement of factional aims then are further sanctions required? |  |
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| Boris is on fire on 17:54 - Sep 16 with 1423 views | Swansea_Blue |
| Boris is on fire on 16:52 - Sep 16 by EdwardStone |
A mate had Undertaker on his business card
He didn't work in a funeral parlour, it was merely a reference to his motorway driving style!! |
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| Boris is on fire on 18:02 - Sep 16 with 1401 views | connorscontract |
| Boris is on fire on 16:31 - Sep 16 by blueislander |
Supreme Court decision tomorrow, but I cannot see that they will find that Boris lied to the Queen. They can only rule on the law, not on what they think may be the truth I fear. It would be great fun if the ruling did go against him though. |
They are hearing on both the Scottish Court ruling against the Government, and Gina Miller's Appeal against her defeat under English Law.
And apparently (and I say this as somebody who isn't an expert on 17th Century Scottish Constitutional precedent founded in the Claim of Right Act 1689) there is a difference in the wording in Scottish Law as opposed to English Law, of the expectation on the Monarch to allow or cause Parliament to sit. Which is why the Scottish Judges ruled as they did. So it might not be the slam dunk everyone is thinking for the Supreme Court to say "Nothing to do with us" as the English Court did.
https://www.telegraph.co.uk/politics/2019/09/11/mps-used-300-year-old-scottish-l
https://sluggerotoole.com/2019/09/12/now-its-two-to-one-in-uk-courts-declaring-p |  | | |
| Boris is on fire on 18:06 - Sep 16 with 1392 views | brazil1982 |
He chickened out of nothing, requesting an indoor conference so he could be heard. Luxembourg tried to set him up, he had nothing of it. | | | |
| Boris is on fire on 18:10 - Sep 16 with 1379 views | SpruceMoose |
| Boris is on fire on 18:06 - Sep 16 by brazil1982 |
He chickened out of nothing, requesting an indoor conference so he could be heard. Luxembourg tried to set him up, he had nothing of it. |
Lol. It's naive folk like you that he's relying on. | |
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| Boris is on fire on 18:12 - Sep 16 with 1374 views | SpruceMoose |
| Boris is on fire on 16:06 - Sep 16 by StokieBlue |
Will play nicely into the narrative that it's the EU bullying us though.
, masterstroke.
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Didn't take long...
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| Boris is on fire on 18:13 - Sep 16 with 1373 views | jaykay |
| Boris is on fire on 16:58 - Sep 16 by ActionMan |
Why, what's Corbyn's position on Brexit this week, today, this year, moment, hour? Your joke leader is as bad as the Boris joke. It's an IQ test in itself to vote for anyone in a red, blue or yellow rosette because clearly you have to be sub average to believe any of the sh1t they say. |
strange you had to bring corbyn up on a boris thread . i think its called whataboutry in t.w.t.d. parlance. or are you a boris supporter |  |
| forensic experts say footers and spruces fingerprints were not found at the scene after the weekends rows |
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| Boris is on fire on 18:21 - Sep 16 with 1363 views | Guthrum |
| Boris is on fire on 17:40 - Sep 16 by WeWereZombies |
The key word in your post is 'purely', that old adage about everything being political may have some people asking why the courts are involved at all. I guess the answer is that Parliamentary procedure is involved as well and that if it has been abused for the advancement of factional aims then are further sanctions required? |
The argument is a technical one over whether it was 'a matter of high policy and political judgment', in which case it is up to the government when and why they ask for a prorogation, as long as they follow the procedural rules (which they have) or whether it was not, is justiciable and therefore comes down to the government's motivation for so advising the Queen (and any discrepancy between public and private intentions).
Also, indeed, whether that discrepancy and the secret motives of the government (to stymie Parliament and prevent scruitiny of the executive) revealed in the documentary evidence is enough to place it within the remit of the courts - which is what the Scottish judges decided the other day (but operating under Scots law, not English).
Worth reading the summary of the Scottish court's judgement: https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EELFJslWkAAjdiX.jpg:large [Post edited 16 Sep 2019 18:25]
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| Boris is on fire on 18:32 - Sep 16 with 1354 views | Guthrum |
| Boris is on fire on 18:06 - Sep 16 by brazil1982 |
He chickened out of nothing, requesting an indoor conference so he could be heard. Luxembourg tried to set him up, he had nothing of it. |
Requesting an indoor press conference with just a small selection from among the waiting journalists.
Apparently the journos were trying to get the protestors to shut up so they'd be able to hear what Johnson was saying, but they refused. A mistake really, as it's another opportunity for the PM to give one of his wonderfully lucid and cogent public performances. | |
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| Boris is on fire on 18:36 - Sep 16 with 1349 views | Guthrum |
Unconscionable abuse of power, but in the grand scheme of things just a sideshow. Especially given how few days are actually going to be lost, given the party conferences have not been postponed. | |
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| Boris is on fire on 19:04 - Sep 16 with 1323 views | Trequartista |
Voters do not care. |  |
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| Boris is on fire on 19:05 - Sep 16 with 1320 views | SpruceMoose |
| Boris is on fire on 19:04 - Sep 16 by Trequartista |
Voters do not care. |
Well, only the ruddy faced selfish ones or the willfully ignorant ones mainly. | |
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| Boris is on fire on 19:09 - Sep 16 with 1310 views | footers |
| Boris is on fire on 19:04 - Sep 16 by Trequartista |
Voters do not care. |
Good of you to speak on behalf of all voters everywhere. |  |
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| Boris is on fire on 19:10 - Sep 16 with 1306 views | SpruceMoose |
| Boris is on fire on 19:09 - Sep 16 by footers |
Good of you to speak on behalf of all voters everywhere. |
Well, only the ruddy faced selfish ones or the willfully ignorant ones mainly. | |
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"Imagine being a heterosexual white male in Britain at this moment. How bad is that. Everything you say is racist, everything you say is homophobic. The Woke community have really f****d this country." | | Poll: | Selectamod |
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| Boris is on fire on 19:12 - Sep 16 with 1299 views | footers |
| Boris is on fire on 19:10 - Sep 16 by SpruceMoose |
Well, only the ruddy faced selfish ones or the willfully ignorant ones mainly. |
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| Boris is on fire on 19:20 - Sep 16 with 1285 views | Darth_Koont |
That empty lectern sums up our government's Brexit plan over the past few years: Both comic and tragic in its absence. |  |
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| Boris is on fire on 19:27 - Sep 16 with 1281 views | Trequartista |
| Boris is on fire on 19:05 - Sep 16 by SpruceMoose |
Well, only the ruddy faced selfish ones or the willfully ignorant ones mainly. |
With the acknowledged caveat that opinion polls don't count for anything, it cannot be ignored that every single poll since Mr Johnson became prime minister puts him ahead, with no evidence of decline.
So we can all delight in a daily dose of Boris bashing, but voters, as in the electorate as a whole, not just those you disagree with, do... not... care... | |
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| Boris is on fire on 19:28 - Sep 16 with 1274 views | Trequartista |
| Boris is on fire on 19:09 - Sep 16 by footers |
Good of you to speak on behalf of all voters everywhere. |
I'm speaking on behalf of opinion polls on behalf of voters everywhere. I'm happy to admit they could all be wrong and that they count for nothing, but this is the only evidence we have. | |
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| Boris is on fire on 19:32 - Sep 16 with 1270 views | eireblue |
| Boris is on fire on 19:27 - Sep 16 by Trequartista |
With the acknowledged caveat that opinion polls don't count for anything, it cannot be ignored that every single poll since Mr Johnson became prime minister puts him ahead, with no evidence of decline.
So we can all delight in a daily dose of Boris bashing, but voters, as in the electorate as a whole, not just those you disagree with, do... not... care... |
Are you sure that is correct, many of the people supporting Boris do...not....care.
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| Boris is on fire on 19:33 - Sep 16 with 1268 views | Trequartista |
| Boris is on fire on 16:58 - Sep 16 by ActionMan |
Why, what's Corbyn's position on Brexit this week, today, this year, moment, hour? Your joke leader is as bad as the Boris joke. It's an IQ test in itself to vote for anyone in a red, blue or yellow rosette because clearly you have to be sub average to believe any of the sh1t they say. |
His policy, if Emily Thornberry has explained it correctly, is to negotiate a deal with the EU and then have a referendum campaigning against the deal they have just negotiated.
You can agree or disagree with this position, but ultimately it is electoral suicide. | |
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| Boris is on fire on 19:37 - Sep 16 with 1264 views | Guthrum |
| Boris is on fire on 19:27 - Sep 16 by Trequartista |
With the acknowledged caveat that opinion polls don't count for anything, it cannot be ignored that every single poll since Mr Johnson became prime minister puts him ahead, with no evidence of decline.
So we can all delight in a daily dose of Boris bashing, but voters, as in the electorate as a whole, not just those you disagree with, do... not... care... |
That is slightly weird with the polling. I do wonder if their statistical modelling is too heavily weighted towards Con and Lab, which would have been entirely reasonable a few years ago but has possibly now been upset by the SNP, the resurgent LibDems and the Brexit Party.
In 2017, most polling significantly overrated the Conservatives, underrated Labour and the others. | |
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| Boris is on fire on 19:39 - Sep 16 with 1254 views | StokieBlue |
| Boris is on fire on 18:12 - Sep 16 by SpruceMoose |
Didn't take long...
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It was obvious how it would be played out.
Unfortunately it'll be lapped up by those it's aimed at.
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| Boris is on fire on 19:42 - Sep 16 with 1242 views | SpruceMoose |
| Boris is on fire on 19:39 - Sep 16 by StokieBlue |
It was obvious how it would be played out.
Unfortunately it'll be lapped up by those it's aimed at.
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Boris is on fire by brazil1982 16 Sep 2019 18:06He chickened out of nothing, requesting an indoor conference so he could be heard. Luxembourg tried to set him up, he had nothing of it.
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