| Derby and Keogh 18:15 - Oct 30 with 5421 views | Nthsuffolkblue |
Apologies if posted elsewhere but this may be of interest to some.
https://www.msn.com/en-gb/sport/football/derby-captain-richard-keogh-told-to-tak
I don't get how they think they can threaten to sack him for gross misconduct if he does not accept the new contract offer. Surely the fact they are offering a contract means they have already decided it does not constitute gross misconduct. I have little sympathy for Keogh but find Derby's handling of this poor too.
I presume that if Keogh so chooses, he could accept the reduced wage and sue Lawrence for loss of earnings. Probably limited chance of success for accepting getting in the vehicle knowing his state, though. |  |
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| Derby and Keogh on 18:18 - Oct 30 with 4363 views | Mullet |
Absolutely no sympathy for either party here. Derby are the worst club in the division for how they handle themselves. I feel sorry for the old boys that have been there since long before they descended into this scumbag way of doing things.
That said all three players got off lightly in my opinion. Keogh possibly suffered most given his age and likelihood he’ll never be much use to a club again by the time he’s fit. But that’s about as far as I can extend any sort of pity towards him, in the real world he’d struggle to find employment without dropping several rungs down the ladder somewhere. |  |
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| Derby and Keogh on 18:25 - Oct 30 with 4314 views | Nthsuffolkblue |
| Derby and Keogh on 18:18 - Oct 30 by Mullet |
Absolutely no sympathy for either party here. Derby are the worst club in the division for how they handle themselves. I feel sorry for the old boys that have been there since long before they descended into this scumbag way of doing things.
That said all three players got off lightly in my opinion. Keogh possibly suffered most given his age and likelihood he’ll never be much use to a club again by the time he’s fit. But that’s about as far as I can extend any sort of pity towards him, in the real world he’d struggle to find employment without dropping several rungs down the ladder somewhere. |
Indeed, when suffering most is having a 14 month break from a very good career and being asked to take a cut from your £1.3M pound-a-year contract, he is jolly lucky. To a large degree he has benefitted from modern car safety features for sure. He owes the designers of those big time. | |
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| Derby and Keogh on 18:33 - Oct 30 with 4287 views | factual_blue |
| Derby and Keogh on 18:18 - Oct 30 by Mullet |
Absolutely no sympathy for either party here. Derby are the worst club in the division for how they handle themselves. I feel sorry for the old boys that have been there since long before they descended into this scumbag way of doing things.
That said all three players got off lightly in my opinion. Keogh possibly suffered most given his age and likelihood he’ll never be much use to a club again by the time he’s fit. But that’s about as far as I can extend any sort of pity towards him, in the real world he’d struggle to find employment without dropping several rungs down the ladder somewhere. |
In the real world, even with an enlightened employer, he'd be on half pay after six months sick absence, and no pay after twelve.
No sympathy. He was no doubt as drunk as the others. |  |
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| Derby and Keogh on 18:53 - Oct 30 with 4215 views | SpruceMoose |
According to this he's been sacked.
https://www.theguardian.com/football/2019/oct/30/derby-sack-richard-keogh-car-cr
The cynic in me ponders how it came to be that they saw fit to sack the aging and injured lummox, so offended were they by the nature of his transgressions, yet turn a blind eye to the equally bad behaviour of the young, multi-million pound pair.
Derby County are truly a festering sh!t of a football club. |  |
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| Derby and Keogh on 19:02 - Oct 30 with 4161 views | Nthsuffolkblue |
| Derby and Keogh on 18:53 - Oct 30 by SpruceMoose |
According to this he's been sacked.
https://www.theguardian.com/football/2019/oct/30/derby-sack-richard-keogh-car-cr
The cynic in me ponders how it came to be that they saw fit to sack the aging and injured lummox, so offended were they by the nature of his transgressions, yet turn a blind eye to the equally bad behaviour of the young, multi-million pound pair.
Derby County are truly a festering sh!t of a football club. |
Indeed.
You could argue for stripping him of the captaincy, but if he is to be sacked for it, so should the two who are actually pleading guilty to the criminal offences.
If ever there was a case for unfair dismissal that must be one, assuming the report he has been sacked is true. | |
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| Derby and Keogh on 19:28 - Oct 30 with 4022 views | Steve_M |
| Derby and Keogh on 18:53 - Oct 30 by SpruceMoose |
According to this he's been sacked.
https://www.theguardian.com/football/2019/oct/30/derby-sack-richard-keogh-car-cr
The cynic in me ponders how it came to be that they saw fit to sack the aging and injured lummox, so offended were they by the nature of his transgressions, yet turn a blind eye to the equally bad behaviour of the young, multi-million pound pair.
Derby County are truly a festering sh!t of a football club. |
Well, quite. It'll be hard for them to defend such different treatment one would expect. |  |
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| Derby and Keogh on 19:32 - Oct 30 with 3995 views | bahri |
BBC are reporting that Keogh has been sacked. |  |
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| Derby and Keogh on 19:34 - Oct 30 with 3981 views | BLUEBEAT |
33 and serious long-term knee injury?
I’d jump at the chance.
Who else would sign him? |  |
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| Derby and Keogh on 19:40 - Oct 30 with 3929 views | Girthyguy |
| Derby and Keogh on 19:34 - Oct 30 by BLUEBEAT |
33 and serious long-term knee injury?
I’d jump at the chance.
Who else would sign him? |
Us when we get promoted. | | | |
| Derby and Keogh on 19:54 - Oct 30 with 3854 views | Hipsterectomy |
Wasn't he the drunk passenger? lmao |  |
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| Derby and Keogh on 20:04 - Oct 30 with 3816 views | itfcjoe |
| Derby and Keogh on 19:28 - Oct 30 by Steve_M |
Well, quite. It'll be hard for them to defend such different treatment one would expect. |
Decisions like this makes you realise that most football clubs are pretty small time businesses without proper in house expertise, despite big turnovers and highly paid staff.
They’ll get destroyed by a good employment lawyer for how differently they’ve treated those who were worse offenders - how can they possibly explain away sacking him but not the 2 who were actually the law breakers. Their statement is laughably hypocritical |  |
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| Derby and Keogh on 20:10 - Oct 30 with 3771 views | Muncher |
| Derby and Keogh on 20:04 - Oct 30 by itfcjoe |
Decisions like this makes you realise that most football clubs are pretty small time businesses without proper in house expertise, despite big turnovers and highly paid staff.
They’ll get destroyed by a good employment lawyer for how differently they’ve treated those who were worse offenders - how can they possibly explain away sacking him but not the 2 who were actually the law breakers. Their statement is laughably hypocritical |
I’m not so sure. I suspect they have had very good advice on this.
The fact that they have chosen not so sack other employees I suspect has no bearing at all on whether his conduct amounts to gross misconduct or not. In any case, reaching some kind of settlement with Keogh will likely be cheaper than paying out the remainder of his contract and expending time and effort on his rehab. | | | |
| Derby and Keogh on 20:13 - Oct 30 with 3742 views | LankHenners |
| Derby and Keogh on 18:53 - Oct 30 by SpruceMoose |
According to this he's been sacked.
https://www.theguardian.com/football/2019/oct/30/derby-sack-richard-keogh-car-cr
The cynic in me ponders how it came to be that they saw fit to sack the aging and injured lummox, so offended were they by the nature of his transgressions, yet turn a blind eye to the equally bad behaviour of the young, multi-million pound pair.
Derby County are truly a festering sh!t of a football club. |
Ah well, at least Wayne Rooney will be joining them soon which will help address their moral bankruptcy. |  |
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| Derby and Keogh on 20:17 - Oct 30 with 3718 views | ElderGrizzly |
| Derby and Keogh on 18:53 - Oct 30 by SpruceMoose |
According to this he's been sacked.
https://www.theguardian.com/football/2019/oct/30/derby-sack-richard-keogh-car-cr
The cynic in me ponders how it came to be that they saw fit to sack the aging and injured lummox, so offended were they by the nature of his transgressions, yet turn a blind eye to the equally bad behaviour of the young, multi-million pound pair.
Derby County are truly a festering sh!t of a football club. |
‪Keogh is sacked while injured, but Lawerence and Bennett both carry on playing for Derby. Yet they were the two who broke the law. Twice.‬
‪Amazing what happens when you still have a transfer value to a club |  | | |
| Derby and Keogh on 20:22 - Oct 30 with 3673 views | Swansea_Blue |
Bizarre how the one who didn’t commit a crime is the one getting grief. |  |
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| Derby and Keogh on 20:24 - Oct 30 with 3652 views | Nthsuffolkblue |
| Derby and Keogh on 20:10 - Oct 30 by Muncher |
I’m not so sure. I suspect they have had very good advice on this.
The fact that they have chosen not so sack other employees I suspect has no bearing at all on whether his conduct amounts to gross misconduct or not. In any case, reaching some kind of settlement with Keogh will likely be cheaper than paying out the remainder of his contract and expending time and effort on his rehab. |
You suspect that. However you have no evidence they have had. Maybe they are chancing it in the hope that he accepts some coaching role with them and doesn't want to destroy the goodwill he has with the fans?
He ought to sue both the club and Lawrence for everything he can get out of them - unfair dismissal from the club and injuries caused by driving under the influence. He should have known better than to get into the car with them but there is no way the club should be able to get away with treating him worse than the drivers.
Perhaps the spineless EFL will look at it, decide their actions have brought the game into disrepute and ban Lawrence and Bennet for 14 months too. I wonder if Derby would cut their wages or threaten to sack them then as well. | |
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| Derby and Keogh on 20:41 - Oct 30 with 3550 views | Muncher |
| Derby and Keogh on 20:24 - Oct 30 by Nthsuffolkblue |
You suspect that. However you have no evidence they have had. Maybe they are chancing it in the hope that he accepts some coaching role with them and doesn't want to destroy the goodwill he has with the fans?
He ought to sue both the club and Lawrence for everything he can get out of them - unfair dismissal from the club and injuries caused by driving under the influence. He should have known better than to get into the car with them but there is no way the club should be able to get away with treating him worse than the drivers.
Perhaps the spineless EFL will look at it, decide their actions have brought the game into disrepute and ban Lawrence and Bennet for 14 months too. I wonder if Derby would cut their wages or threaten to sack them then as well. |
There is no way any firm will dismiss an employee with a potential claim value of £2m without having good specialist advice, the advice would have come from a Tier 1 firm almost certainly with an opinion from counsel of several years call. Of course I can’t be sure, but I know how these things work from being on the advisor side of things. | | | |
| Derby and Keogh on 20:47 - Oct 30 with 3514 views | Girthyguy |
| Derby and Keogh on 19:54 - Oct 30 by Hipsterectomy |
Wasn't he the drunk passenger? lmao |
At the end of his career though bad leg injury in a car crash wouldn't be surprised if he retired now. | | | |
| Derby and Keogh on 20:49 - Oct 30 with 3504 views | Bluefish |
| Derby and Keogh on 19:54 - Oct 30 by Hipsterectomy |
Wasn't he the drunk passenger? lmao |
He wasn't the only passenger so he seems to be treated differently because he got injured. Presumably more to do with asset value |  |
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| Derby and Keogh on 21:02 - Oct 30 with 3443 views | Basuco |
| Derby and Keogh on 20:49 - Oct 30 by Bluefish |
He wasn't the only passenger so he seems to be treated differently because he got injured. Presumably more to do with asset value |
Who were the other passengers? |  | | |
| Derby and Keogh on 21:05 - Oct 30 with 3437 views | Bluefish |
| Derby and Keogh on 21:02 - Oct 30 by Basuco |
Who were the other passengers? |
I've heard some names but philip will tell me off if I say. He wouldn't be sat in the back if he was the only passenger | |
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| Derby and Keogh on 21:07 - Oct 30 with 3421 views | footers |
| Derby and Keogh on 21:05 - Oct 30 by Bluefish |
I've heard some names but philip will tell me off if I say. He wouldn't be sat in the back if he was the only passenger |
He would if he wanted a kip. |  |
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| Derby and Keogh on 21:08 - Oct 30 with 3415 views | Mullet |
| Derby and Keogh on 21:05 - Oct 30 by Bluefish |
I've heard some names but philip will tell me off if I say. He wouldn't be sat in the back if he was the only passenger |
Does anyone know where Iggy Pop was at the time? | |
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| Derby and Keogh on 21:09 - Oct 30 with 3407 views | Bluefish |
| Derby and Keogh on 21:07 - Oct 30 by footers |
He would if he wanted a kip. |
.....on the 5 minute journey | |
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| Derby and Keogh on 21:16 - Oct 30 with 3363 views | bahri |
| Derby and Keogh on 21:08 - Oct 30 by Mullet |
Does anyone know where Iggy Pop was at the time? |
Rehearsing for the Jonathan Ross show with his parakeet, Biggy. | |
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