| Further austerity then 11:21 - Nov 2 with 6121 views | Nthsuffolkblue |
Tories promise tax cuts if elected.
Mail article so haven't read more than headline or linked it. |  |
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| Further austerity then on 11:22 - Nov 2 with 2653 views | BlueBadger |
I've never understood the whole 'tax and spend' sneering. Surely if you want to spend, like Boris claims he wants to, you need to find the money somewhere? |  |
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| Further austerity then on 11:28 - Nov 2 with 2625 views | Nthsuffolkblue |
| Further austerity then on 11:22 - Nov 2 by BlueBadger |
I've never understood the whole 'tax and spend' sneering. Surely if you want to spend, like Boris claims he wants to, you need to find the money somewhere? |
If Corbyn made similar promises he would be vilified for his figures not adding up - he was last time around despite having thorough financial costings published.
Too many of the public buy the headline that he will put so many thousand more police officers on the street without recognising the many thousand more he has already removed and the fact the funding will come from manning 999 centres or education or pensions.
Tax cuts buys votes. He knows what he is doing. | |
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| Further austerity then on 11:37 - Nov 2 with 2607 views | Guthrum |
| Further austerity then on 11:22 - Nov 2 by BlueBadger |
I've never understood the whole 'tax and spend' sneering. Surely if you want to spend, like Boris claims he wants to, you need to find the money somewhere? |
Everyone knows that the lower taxes are, the more money governments have to spend. And increasing taxes even a small amount will instantly cause every business in the UK to close down. |  |
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| Further austerity then on 11:43 - Nov 2 with 2596 views | bournemouthblue |
| Further austerity then on 11:28 - Nov 2 by Nthsuffolkblue |
If Corbyn made similar promises he would be vilified for his figures not adding up - he was last time around despite having thorough financial costings published.
Too many of the public buy the headline that he will put so many thousand more police officers on the street without recognising the many thousand more he has already removed and the fact the funding will come from manning 999 centres or education or pensions.
Tax cuts buys votes. He knows what he is doing. |
The whole bring back 20k police officers thing is quite something in itself
It's a staggering admission that government got that spectacularly wrong and we as the public shouldn't forgive the Tories for that
Who'd have thought we'd ever need a Specialist Gang Crime unit setup for Ipswich?
We may have only had two fatalities from stabbings in recent years but we have a stabbing every other week which doesn't result in a death. We had one just outside my work place as we were leaving work.
We have had two forensics teams in our business park in the last year or so. This didn't used to be normal.
Anyone who claims Austerity has had no effect on crime is down right lying [Post edited 2 Nov 2019 11:45]
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| Further austerity then on 11:50 - Nov 2 with 2574 views | factual_blue |
| Further austerity then on 11:22 - Nov 2 by BlueBadger |
I've never understood the whole 'tax and spend' sneering. Surely if you want to spend, like Boris claims he wants to, you need to find the money somewhere? |
Can he get money from his lap dancing w̶h̶o̶r̶e̶ business partner? |  |
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| Further austerity then on 11:54 - Nov 2 with 2563 views | Nthsuffolkblue |
| Further austerity then on 11:43 - Nov 2 by bournemouthblue |
The whole bring back 20k police officers thing is quite something in itself
It's a staggering admission that government got that spectacularly wrong and we as the public shouldn't forgive the Tories for that
Who'd have thought we'd ever need a Specialist Gang Crime unit setup for Ipswich?
We may have only had two fatalities from stabbings in recent years but we have a stabbing every other week which doesn't result in a death. We had one just outside my work place as we were leaving work.
We have had two forensics teams in our business park in the last year or so. This didn't used to be normal.
Anyone who claims Austerity has had no effect on crime is down right lying [Post edited 2 Nov 2019 11:45]
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Difficult to prove cause and effect. I should imagine the link between drug dealing and knife crime is fairly proven and there is surely a link between increased poverty and increased drug usage. It doesn't take a lot to come to the conclusion you have there.
However, somehow it will all be spun as Labour's fault for something they did or didn't do in the 2000s.
I find it so depressing the Tories continue to be so far ahead in opinion polls. | |
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| Further austerity then on 11:56 - Nov 2 with 2553 views | TractorWood |
| Further austerity then on 11:50 - Nov 2 by factual_blue |
Can he get money from his lap dancing w̶h̶o̶r̶e̶ business partner? |
I thought Boris ruled that Boris didn't break the rules on that? |  |
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| Further austerity then on 11:58 - Nov 2 with 2540 views | factual_blue |
| Further austerity then on 11:56 - Nov 2 by TractorWood |
I thought Boris ruled that Boris didn't break the rules on that? |
But boris is a degenerate and a liar. | |
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| Further austerity then on 11:59 - Nov 2 with 2540 views | Bent_double |
| Further austerity then on 11:54 - Nov 2 by Nthsuffolkblue |
Difficult to prove cause and effect. I should imagine the link between drug dealing and knife crime is fairly proven and there is surely a link between increased poverty and increased drug usage. It doesn't take a lot to come to the conclusion you have there.
However, somehow it will all be spun as Labour's fault for something they did or didn't do in the 2000s.
I find it so depressing the Tories continue to be so far ahead in opinion polls. |
"I find it so depressing the Tories continue to be so far ahead in opinion polls."
Hopefully people are just lying when polled, I know I would - don't want to give the tories any help in their election campaign. |  |
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| Further austerity then on 12:03 - Nov 2 with 2529 views | factual_blue |
| Further austerity then on 11:59 - Nov 2 by Bent_double |
"I find it so depressing the Tories continue to be so far ahead in opinion polls."
Hopefully people are just lying when polled, I know I would - don't want to give the tories any help in their election campaign. |
You're forgetting the level of stupidity in this country. | |
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| Further austerity then on 12:09 - Nov 2 with 2513 views | footers |
| Further austerity then on 12:03 - Nov 2 by factual_blue |
You're forgetting the level of stupidity in this country. |
*your |  |
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| Further austerity then on 12:19 - Nov 2 with 2487 views | Swansea_Blue |
| Further austerity then on 11:43 - Nov 2 by bournemouthblue |
The whole bring back 20k police officers thing is quite something in itself
It's a staggering admission that government got that spectacularly wrong and we as the public shouldn't forgive the Tories for that
Who'd have thought we'd ever need a Specialist Gang Crime unit setup for Ipswich?
We may have only had two fatalities from stabbings in recent years but we have a stabbing every other week which doesn't result in a death. We had one just outside my work place as we were leaving work.
We have had two forensics teams in our business park in the last year or so. This didn't used to be normal.
Anyone who claims Austerity has had no effect on crime is down right lying [Post edited 2 Nov 2019 11:45]
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BoZo was using the hashtag #BritainDeservesBetter the other day, with absolutely no sense of self awareness. Either that or they think their supporters are so monumentally thick they won’t realise or care that the Tories have been in power for the last 9 years. It’s beyond surreal. |  |
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| Further austerity then on 12:20 - Nov 2 with 2484 views | Oldsmoker |
| Further austerity then on 11:28 - Nov 2 by Nthsuffolkblue |
If Corbyn made similar promises he would be vilified for his figures not adding up - he was last time around despite having thorough financial costings published.
Too many of the public buy the headline that he will put so many thousand more police officers on the street without recognising the many thousand more he has already removed and the fact the funding will come from manning 999 centres or education or pensions.
Tax cuts buys votes. He knows what he is doing. |
Javid refuses to issue the government analysis on what Johnsons deal will do to the economy once Brexit has happened. You can kiss goodbye to any Tory saying how these tax cuts will be funded. The Tories whole message will be to "Get Brexit done" and then the "worlds our oyster" and we'll be able to spend money on what we want because we'll have tons of cash pouring into the UK because we will no longer be part of the largest trading block in the world.
Will the voters believe that guff? A lot will I'm afraid to say. |  |
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| Further austerity then on 12:21 - Nov 2 with 2478 views | BlueBadger |
| Further austerity then on 11:43 - Nov 2 by bournemouthblue |
The whole bring back 20k police officers thing is quite something in itself
It's a staggering admission that government got that spectacularly wrong and we as the public shouldn't forgive the Tories for that
Who'd have thought we'd ever need a Specialist Gang Crime unit setup for Ipswich?
We may have only had two fatalities from stabbings in recent years but we have a stabbing every other week which doesn't result in a death. We had one just outside my work place as we were leaving work.
We have had two forensics teams in our business park in the last year or so. This didn't used to be normal.
Anyone who claims Austerity has had no effect on crime is down right lying [Post edited 2 Nov 2019 11:45]
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My current Stupid Favourite Facebook thing is people posting 'I stand with the firefighters' memes in the wake of the Grenfell findings about certain operational practices whilst also proclaiming to 'back Boris'.
Who made massive cuts to the London fire service whilst in office as London mayor. | |
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| Further austerity then on 12:28 - Nov 2 with 2450 views | jaykay |
| Further austerity then on 11:37 - Nov 2 by Guthrum |
Everyone knows that the lower taxes are, the more money governments have to spend. And increasing taxes even a small amount will instantly cause every business in the UK to close down. |
you also forgot you have to pay those at the top a large bonus as well as a big wage,so you get the best. also pay as little as possible to the workers to make your company competitive. nearly forgot zero hours contracts is the future |  |
| forensic experts say footers and spruces fingerprints were not found at the scene after the weekends rows |
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| Further austerity then on 12:28 - Nov 2 with 2447 views | factual_blue |
| Further austerity then on 12:09 - Nov 2 by footers |
*your |
*You're..
As in 'you are forgetting...' | |
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| On a related note ... on 12:29 - Nov 2 with 2456 views | Guthrum |
https://www.theguardian.com/news/2019/nov/02/super-rich-leave-uk-labour-election
What use are these people to the country anyway, if all they want to do is pile up personal wealth and flee at the slightest hint of putting anything back through taxation (hardly at punitive rates by 1970s standards)?
Are they going to cut off their own noses (and income streams) by no longer running their businesses in the UK? Even if they do, will that not leave gaps in the market for other entrepreneurs to replace the lost employment? | |
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| Further austerity then on 12:35 - Nov 2 with 2415 views | factual_blue |
| Further austerity then on 12:28 - Nov 2 by jaykay |
you also forgot you have to pay those at the top a large bonus as well as a big wage,so you get the best. also pay as little as possible to the workers to make your company competitive. nearly forgot zero hours contracts is the future |
The paradox is that Extremely Rich People seem to need more money to incentivise them, but those in poverty need to have less money to incentivise them. | |
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| Further austerity then on 12:36 - Nov 2 with 2403 views | Nthsuffolkblue |
| Further austerity then on 12:28 - Nov 2 by factual_blue |
*You're..
As in 'you are forgetting...' |
Methinks you missed the point he was making. | |
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| Further austerity then on 12:38 - Nov 2 with 2396 views | factual_blue |
| Further austerity then on 12:36 - Nov 2 by Nthsuffolkblue |
Methinks you missed the point he was making. |
Or did I....?
I'll  myself, just to be on the safe side though. | |
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| On a related note ... on 12:39 - Nov 2 with 2397 views | footers |
| On a related note ... on 12:29 - Nov 2 by Guthrum |
https://www.theguardian.com/news/2019/nov/02/super-rich-leave-uk-labour-election
What use are these people to the country anyway, if all they want to do is pile up personal wealth and flee at the slightest hint of putting anything back through taxation (hardly at punitive rates by 1970s standards)?
Are they going to cut off their own noses (and income streams) by no longer running their businesses in the UK? Even if they do, will that not leave gaps in the market for other entrepreneurs to replace the lost employment? |
Exactly my position, buh. How can we be in a position where we're essentially held ransom by a few at the top? If they want to leave, let them; there'll be plenty of others willing to take their place, make a decent living and give back to society. (I'm not suggesting that these people haven't, by the way, just that to me their patriotism seems a little weak if they're willing to up sticks because they'd be paying more in tax.) | |
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| Further austerity then on 12:41 - Nov 2 with 2382 views | footers |
| Further austerity then on 12:38 - Nov 2 by factual_blue |
Or did I....?
I'll myself, just to be on the safe side though. |
Your forgiven. | |
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| Further austerity then on 12:45 - Nov 2 with 2361 views | Guthrum |
| Further austerity then on 11:59 - Nov 2 by Bent_double |
"I find it so depressing the Tories continue to be so far ahead in opinion polls."
Hopefully people are just lying when polled, I know I would - don't want to give the tories any help in their election campaign. |
I strongly suspect the mathematical modelling used to balance and extrapolate the raw data from poll samples is some way out for this current situation.
It isn't a case of "all polling being rubbish", more we are into uncharted territory. No situation like this has come about since the industry really took off, with the major contendors fragmenting over a cross-party issue which also gives a whole new set of motivations to the electorate. There simply isn't the analytical information on how this will play out. Even 2017 was nothing like this.
I think, perhaps, overmuch emphasis is being given to traditional loyalties to Conservative and Labour (which, with the loss of Scotland to the SNP, favours the former). But I don't know. Nobody really does, yet. | |
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| Further austerity then on 12:48 - Nov 2 with 2344 views | BigManBlue |
| Further austerity then on 12:41 - Nov 2 by footers |
Your forgiven. |
Yore* |  |
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| Further austerity then on 12:54 - Nov 2 with 2323 views | Oldsmoker |
| Further austerity then on 12:28 - Nov 2 by factual_blue |
*You're..
As in 'you are forgetting...' |
Own Goal by Footers.
- and he down-arrowed you for correcting him.
Oh, by the way it's 'You are forgetting...' as a capital letter is used when starting a sentence.
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