| A few gems from JC's chat with AN. 16:22 - Nov 28 with 5582 views | hampstead_blue |
12% of income tax comes from 0.01% of the population. 31,000.
Corbyn thinks they will all happily stay and not flee the country.
He's wrong. Many will leave and as such his shortfall will be rather large. This cannot be 'fact checked' but if you can afford the professionals to do it then you would.
It's not beyond the will of man to get yourself set-up in another more favourable regime.
His tax forecasts would be dust = more borrowing.
A pensioner, has a modest pension, state pension, and enjoys income of £2k pa from dividends. Total income 14k.
Currently they pay £9 pa in tax. Under Corbyn it rises by £400.
He wants to ask the Special Forces to 'arrest if possible' terrorists. What does that really mean? Well, he'll put every member of the forces who shoots someone on trial to prove they had no other choice but to shoot to kill.
When talking about national security he failed to mention the words "Islamic extremism".
Do you think he's scared of losing their vote? That's the vote were a senior member of the family/community ticks the Labour box for all those postal votes. He's got form of working with people convicted of that crime....
Nationalisation.
Paid for by replacing equity with Gov bonds. Plus you get the chance for capital growth.
BT shares currently yield 8% or thereabouts. Zero capital growth but it is eroded by inflation if that exceeds the yield.
Gov Bonds yield 0.7%
Investors are nigh on guaranteed NOT to get fair price for the stock.
WASPIE women.
AN conceded to Corbyn the argument that it is wrong to manage this in the way it was.
He still refused to tell us how it would be funded until AN practically grabbed his tie!
Let's all go crazy and vote for life under a rock.
P.S: I know the Tories aren't the cleanest and mess-up often, but I've never heard anything as close to national self-harm as this.
Oh, and the more he smiled at AN the harder AN pressed him.
You can tell us that AN is a Tory, I don't think that would matter tbh. He loves an interview and for years gave Abbot an easy time on his daytime politics show.
Just sayin...... 
Feel much better after a good sleep and no hangover. [Post edited 28 Nov 2019 16:23]
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Those who assume they know you, when they don't are just guessing.
Those who assume and insist they know are daft and in denial.
Those who assume, insist, and deny the truth are plain stupid.
Those who assume, insist, deny the truth and tell YOU they know you (when they don't) have an IQ in the range of 35-49.
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| A few gems from JC's chat with AN. on 17:22 - Nov 28 with 2475 views | Ewan_Oozami |
| A few gems from JC's chat with AN. on 16:52 - Nov 28 by hampstead_blue |
I was quoting AN.
JC wants Divi's to be taxed the in the same brackets as income.
As such 20% of £2,000 = £400
The £9 was AN's number again. I'm sure the BBC would have checked it. |
So the Tories cut the tax-free dividend threshold from £5000 to £2000?
How much would that have cost that pensioner at the time?
How much must their shares be worth to get £2k pa in dividend income?
Looks like a special case chosen to show the policy in a bad light... [Post edited 28 Nov 2019 17:26]
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| A few gems from JC's chat with AN. on 17:23 - Nov 28 with 2473 views | GaryCooper |
| A few gems from JC's chat with AN. on 16:48 - Nov 28 by HARRY10 |
captured alive ?
dead men can't tell tales is the thought here I believe
can't have these naughty 'terrorist' chaps speaking in public about their side of things
might just be a bit embarrassing......for some |
Especially if they are invited to the House of commons? Do you ever think anything through? |  | | |
| A few gems from JC's chat with AN. on 17:32 - Nov 28 with 2456 views | noggin |
| A few gems from JC's chat with AN. on 16:57 - Nov 28 by hampstead_blue |
Pathetic
Normally I am mild mannered but that is utter tosh and an insult to those who stand in front of bullets and more besides.
Fella, grab some kit and go get stuck in. Come on, I'll show you how it is and you would wet yourself at the first whizz for close gunfire.
These are people that don't want to be captured. Let them have their version of heaven.
They would cut your throat if they captured you.
Oh, and you can't shoot to injure. Impossible in a theatre of war. Aim for the main body mass, it's the biggest bit so you get a bigger hit ratio. |
So are you saying special forces don't kill innocent people, ever? |  |
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| A few gems from JC's chat with AN. on 17:37 - Nov 28 with 2456 views | hampstead_blue |
| A few gems from JC's chat with AN. on 17:22 - Nov 28 by Ewan_Oozami |
So the Tories cut the tax-free dividend threshold from £5000 to £2000?
How much would that have cost that pensioner at the time?
How much must their shares be worth to get £2k pa in dividend income?
Looks like a special case chosen to show the policy in a bad light... [Post edited 28 Nov 2019 17:26]
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My comment was on AN's question. Tory tax policy wasn't on the agenda. I was quoting the program....Whatabouterry wasn't on the agenda.
Oh, and to get £2k from a share portfolio giving 8% yield you'll need just £25k.
2,000/0.08= 25,000
£25k in shares is modest by most means. | |
| Assumption is to make an ass out of you and me.
Those who assume they know you, when they don't are just guessing.
Those who assume and insist they know are daft and in denial.
Those who assume, insist, and deny the truth are plain stupid.
Those who assume, insist, deny the truth and tell YOU they know you (when they don't) have an IQ in the range of 35-49.
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| A few gems from JC's chat with AN. on 17:38 - Nov 28 with 2443 views | itfcjoe |
| A few gems from JC's chat with AN. on 17:37 - Nov 28 by hampstead_blue |
My comment was on AN's question. Tory tax policy wasn't on the agenda. I was quoting the program....Whatabouterry wasn't on the agenda.
Oh, and to get £2k from a share portfolio giving 8% yield you'll need just £25k.
2,000/0.08= 25,000
£25k in shares is modest by most means. |
Surely having £25k in shares isn't modest?
If that is modest then so is £400 in tax a year |  |
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| A few gems from JC's chat with AN. on 17:40 - Nov 28 with 2439 views | hampstead_blue |
A British spy!
From your link.
"The man once described by a senior Irish detective as "the most important intelligence agent in the history of the Irish State" helped foil a plot to kill the Prince and Princess of Wales in the 1980s.
Last night a Conservative MP, Mr Andrew Hunter, chairman of the committee, described Mr O'Callaghan as a former member of the "upper-echelons of the IRA high command". He believes he can give a crucial insight into the views of the IRA."
JC@s mates deny being in the IRA. Have you seen the BBC doc about the troubles?
Pics of McGuiness with a hand gun, checking out a car bomb...Tape of one of Adam's IRA staff talking about conversations with him on IRA matters.....Interviews with former HEad of IRA Int confirming Adams was a member, the Leader FGS!
Over to you. | |
| Assumption is to make an ass out of you and me.
Those who assume they know you, when they don't are just guessing.
Those who assume and insist they know are daft and in denial.
Those who assume, insist, and deny the truth are plain stupid.
Those who assume, insist, deny the truth and tell YOU they know you (when they don't) have an IQ in the range of 35-49.
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| A few gems from JC's chat with AN. on 17:41 - Nov 28 with 2435 views | J2BLUE |
| A few gems from JC's chat with AN. on 17:37 - Nov 28 by hampstead_blue |
My comment was on AN's question. Tory tax policy wasn't on the agenda. I was quoting the program....Whatabouterry wasn't on the agenda.
Oh, and to get £2k from a share portfolio giving 8% yield you'll need just £25k.
2,000/0.08= 25,000
£25k in shares is modest by most means. |
Name one dividend with an 8% yield... |  |
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| A few gems from JC's chat with AN. on 17:53 - Nov 28 with 2410 views | eireblue |
“When talking about national security he failed to mention the words "Islamic extremism".
Do you think he's scared of losing their vote?”
Whose vote?
Do you think there are enough Islamic extremists to swing a vote? |  | | |
| A few gems from JC's chat with AN. on 18:12 - Nov 28 with 2381 views | hampstead_blue |
| A few gems from JC's chat with AN. on 17:41 - Nov 28 by J2BLUE |
Name one dividend with an 8% yield... |
The Sunday Times ran a piece discussing the biggest yielding stocks. BT's was given as one of the highest at 8%. | |
| Assumption is to make an ass out of you and me.
Those who assume they know you, when they don't are just guessing.
Those who assume and insist they know are daft and in denial.
Those who assume, insist, and deny the truth are plain stupid.
Those who assume, insist, deny the truth and tell YOU they know you (when they don't) have an IQ in the range of 35-49.
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| A few gems from JC's chat with AN. on 18:16 - Nov 28 with 2373 views | BackToRussia |
| A few gems from JC's chat with AN. on 17:19 - Nov 28 by lowhouseblue |
having seen the interview, if he'd got up and fled as the opening credits faded he would have come out of it better than he did. it's quite hard to imagine how he could have come out of it worse. [Post edited 28 Nov 2019 17:24]
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You know I'm starting to think you don't like Jeremy Corbyn. |  |
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| A few gems from JC's chat with AN. on 18:23 - Nov 28 with 2364 views | lowhouseblue |
| A few gems from JC's chat with AN. on 18:16 - Nov 28 by BackToRussia |
You know I'm starting to think you don't like Jeremy Corbyn. |
well i've tried to disguise it for a long time, but there comes a point ... |  |
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| A few gems from JC's chat with AN. on 18:28 - Nov 28 with 2357 views | Swansea_Blue |
Interesting hat the IFS has suggested that the Tories may need to borrow more than Labour to deliver their manifesto, depending on how Brexit goes (a deal in 12 months seen as totally unrealistic by most trade experts).
Labour’s proposed spending is huge. Nevertheless, the biggest risk to the economy lies in the Tory Brexit plan. At least with Labour we’d be benefiting from the increased public spending whereas in a no deal Brexit the money would disappear without delivering much of extra value to any of us.
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| A few gems from JC's chat with AN. on 18:33 - Nov 28 with 2339 views | BanksterDebtSlave |
Even by your standards in this area, this is pretty laughable! |  |
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| A few gems from JC's chat with AN. on 18:36 - Nov 28 with 2330 views | Herbivore |
| A few gems from JC's chat with AN. on 16:31 - Nov 28 by hampstead_blue |
My logic is simple.
By insisting arrest is the preferred method, JC would want everyone who killed an enemy combatant to fully justify WHY they didn't prosecute the executive order.
Also, his hatred of the forces is well known. The two SAS guys caught in Basra were not being held legally, nor was there known justification to do so. They would have been passed deep into insurgent hands, tortured, and we would have had that all over the media.
He is on camera slamming a really brave rescue mission.
In my time in Northern Ireland and on the mainland we had to carry 'Rules of Engagement' cards. We had the right to shoot first under certain circumstances. JC is now on record withdrawing that...... |
You could have just said "I made that bit up". You have about as much credibility as your beloved Tories, you can't help but fabricate and misrepresent. |  |
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| A few gems from JC's chat with AN. on 18:37 - Nov 28 with 2329 views | Herbivore |
| A few gems from JC's chat with AN. on 16:35 - Nov 28 by usm |
Brexit will be a p1ss in the ocean compared to Corbyn |
Tell that to the IFS, they don't agree. | |
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| A few gems from JC's chat with AN. on 18:42 - Nov 28 with 2316 views | hampstead_blue |
| A few gems from JC's chat with AN. on 18:36 - Nov 28 by Herbivore |
You could have just said "I made that bit up". You have about as much credibility as your beloved Tories, you can't help but fabricate and misrepresent. |
What? | |
| Assumption is to make an ass out of you and me.
Those who assume they know you, when they don't are just guessing.
Those who assume and insist they know are daft and in denial.
Those who assume, insist, and deny the truth are plain stupid.
Those who assume, insist, deny the truth and tell YOU they know you (when they don't) have an IQ in the range of 35-49.
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| A few gems from JC's chat with AN. on 18:42 - Nov 28 with 2318 views | Herbivore |
| A few gems from JC's chat with AN. on 17:37 - Nov 28 by hampstead_blue |
My comment was on AN's question. Tory tax policy wasn't on the agenda. I was quoting the program....Whatabouterry wasn't on the agenda.
Oh, and to get £2k from a share portfolio giving 8% yield you'll need just £25k.
2,000/0.08= 25,000
£25k in shares is modest by most means. |
You think having £25k of shares is modest and is likely to be a sum that someone on just a state pension would own? What planet do you live on? | |
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| A few gems from JC's chat with AN. on 18:44 - Nov 28 with 2312 views | Herbivore |
| A few gems from JC's chat with AN. on 18:42 - Nov 28 by hampstead_blue |
What? |
You heard. You make stuff up. You've been caught out many times making stuff up in the past week and you've done it again on this thread. | |
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| A few gems from JC's chat with AN. on 18:48 - Nov 28 with 2305 views | longtimefan |
| A few gems from JC's chat with AN. on 17:38 - Nov 28 by itfcjoe |
Surely having £25k in shares isn't modest?
If that is modest then so is £400 in tax a year |
£25K is modest if it’s your pension ie. SIPP |  | | |
| A few gems from JC's chat with AN. on 18:50 - Nov 28 with 2301 views | legally_blue |
| A few gems from JC's chat with AN. on 18:28 - Nov 28 by Swansea_Blue |
Interesting hat the IFS has suggested that the Tories may need to borrow more than Labour to deliver their manifesto, depending on how Brexit goes (a deal in 12 months seen as totally unrealistic by most trade experts).
Labour’s proposed spending is huge. Nevertheless, the biggest risk to the economy lies in the Tory Brexit plan. At least with Labour we’d be benefiting from the increased public spending whereas in a no deal Brexit the money would disappear without delivering much of extra value to any of us.
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I agree that a no-deal Brexit would be a nightmare, but not sure I follow your statement that: “At least with Labour we’d be benefiting from the increased public spending whereas in a no deal Brexit the money would disappear without delivering much of extra value to any of us.”
Where do you think the money would go? Presumably it would be used by the Tories to prop up British industry etc? I don’t think it’s fair to suggest it would disappear- it has to go somewhere. Haven’t read anything into this in detail, so more of a question than anything else. Is there a report which accounts for where the Tory spending would go? | | | |
| A few gems from JC's chat with AN. on 18:53 - Nov 28 with 2298 views | Ewan_Oozami |
| A few gems from JC's chat with AN. on 18:48 - Nov 28 by longtimefan |
£25K is modest if it’s your pension ie. SIPP |
That's not the same thing as far as personal taxation is concerned... | |
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| A few gems from JC's chat with AN. on 19:01 - Nov 28 with 2275 views | Herbivore |
| A few gems from JC's chat with AN. on 18:50 - Nov 28 by legally_blue |
I agree that a no-deal Brexit would be a nightmare, but not sure I follow your statement that: “At least with Labour we’d be benefiting from the increased public spending whereas in a no deal Brexit the money would disappear without delivering much of extra value to any of us.”
Where do you think the money would go? Presumably it would be used by the Tories to prop up British industry etc? I don’t think it’s fair to suggest it would disappear- it has to go somewhere. Haven’t read anything into this in detail, so more of a question than anything else. Is there a report which accounts for where the Tory spending would go? |
This is just their manifesto spending, so not accounting for them propping up businesses. Very modest increases to public spending and no tax increases, but maintaining that becomes difficult when you lose 5-10% GDP overnight. | |
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| A few gems from JC's chat with AN. on 19:02 - Nov 28 with 2277 views | longtimefan |
| A few gems from JC's chat with AN. on 18:53 - Nov 28 by Ewan_Oozami |
That's not the same thing as far as personal taxation is concerned... |
Well it is in this case as the whole discussion was framed around share dividends being taxed. | | | |
| A few gems from JC's chat with AN. on 19:06 - Nov 28 with 2265 views | hampstead_blue |
| A few gems from JC's chat with AN. on 18:44 - Nov 28 by Herbivore |
You heard. You make stuff up. You've been caught out many times making stuff up in the past week and you've done it again on this thread. |
Bullux
My OP is from the AN interview. | |
| Assumption is to make an ass out of you and me.
Those who assume they know you, when they don't are just guessing.
Those who assume and insist they know are daft and in denial.
Those who assume, insist, and deny the truth are plain stupid.
Those who assume, insist, deny the truth and tell YOU they know you (when they don't) have an IQ in the range of 35-49.
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