| Every club has a greatest and worst manager of all time 08:54 - Feb 11 with 8850 views | Bluefish |
Do you think we are the only ones that our worst is also our current manager? |  |
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| Every club has a greatest and worst manager of all time on 10:30 - Feb 11 with 4131 views | Herbivore |
| Every club has a greatest and worst manager of all time on 10:26 - Feb 11 by Bluefish |
The key is his short time at the club. We also looked less clueless for most of his reign than we have under PR Paul. He was useless but had slightly more idea than the bloke currently destroying us |
Have you considered that part of the reason his reign was so short is because even the usually patient Marcus Evans could see what a complete disaster he was? I am no Lambert fan but it's a bit of a stretch to say that Hurst looked like he had more of a clue. He seemed to have a plan for about 6 games and then totally lost the plot. |  |
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| Every club has a greatest and worst manager of all time on 10:31 - Feb 11 with 4129 views | Herbivore |
| Every club has a greatest and worst manager of all time on 10:29 - Feb 11 by JammyDodgerrr |
Lambert is easily better than Jewell, Keane and Hurst. The current form is not great, but i think you are forgetting just how bad we were under those three. |
I don't see how he's easily better than Keane or Jewell. He's been largely as clueless as the latter for sure. | |
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| Every club has a greatest and worst manager of all time on 10:33 - Feb 11 with 4115 views | ITFC_Forever |
| Every club has a greatest and worst manager of all time on 10:26 - Feb 11 by Bluefish |
The key is his short time at the club. We also looked less clueless for most of his reign than we have under PR Paul. He was useless but had slightly more idea than the bloke currently destroying us |
Surely that further strengthens Hurst's credentials to the claim of worst of all time.
To be so bad and cause so much damage in such a short timescale is quite an achievement. |  |
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| Every club has a greatest and worst manager of all time on 10:34 - Feb 11 with 4111 views | tractordownsouth |
Nah, for all Lambert's tactical failings, he has got us Holy, KVY and Garbutt. His recruitment is good, he just can't put the team together. Compare that to Hurst - none of his signings are value for money. |  |
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| Every club has a greatest and worst manager of all time on 10:35 - Feb 11 with 4106 views | Bluefish |
| Every club has a greatest and worst manager of all time on 10:30 - Feb 11 by Herbivore |
Have you considered that part of the reason his reign was so short is because even the usually patient Marcus Evans could see what a complete disaster he was? I am no Lambert fan but it's a bit of a stretch to say that Hurst looked like he had more of a clue. He seemed to have a plan for about 6 games and then totally lost the plot. |
We can call them equally clueless but Lambert is doing more damage with his longer reign. If you look at the focus of petite Paul it was about trying to add sports science and trying to shake up the club and team, it backfired but he had a plan. PR Paul is about buying a beer and hoping for the best. | |
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| Every club has a greatest and worst manager of all time on 10:36 - Feb 11 with 4102 views | Bluefish |
| Every club has a greatest and worst manager of all time on 10:27 - Feb 11 by Herbivore |
No. |
If he gets us up he won't be our worst ever. He isn't capable though | |
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| Every club has a greatest and worst manager of all time on 10:37 - Feb 11 with 4100 views | Bluefish |
| Every club has a greatest and worst manager of all time on 10:29 - Feb 11 by JammyDodgerrr |
Lambert is easily better than Jewell, Keane and Hurst. The current form is not great, but i think you are forgetting just how bad we were under those three. |
What has PRP achieved here to think that? | |
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| Every club has a greatest and worst manager of all time on 10:37 - Feb 11 with 4098 views | Herbivore |
| Every club has a greatest and worst manager of all time on 10:35 - Feb 11 by Bluefish |
We can call them equally clueless but Lambert is doing more damage with his longer reign. If you look at the focus of petite Paul it was about trying to add sports science and trying to shake up the club and team, it backfired but he had a plan. PR Paul is about buying a beer and hoping for the best. |
There's not much point arguing this with you. It does seem that you're in a minority of one in thinking Lambert is a worse manager than Hurst though. | |
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| Every club has a greatest and worst manager of all time on 10:38 - Feb 11 with 4092 views | Bluefish |
| Every club has a greatest and worst manager of all time on 10:37 - Feb 11 by Herbivore |
There's not much point arguing this with you. It does seem that you're in a minority of one in thinking Lambert is a worse manager than Hurst though. |
As with all points though I start in a minority of one and eventually you all catch up. To be fair you are usually quicker than most. | |
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| Every club has a greatest and worst manager of all time on 10:56 - Feb 11 with 4068 views | Fixed_It |
If you keep on (and on and on and on) about something it doesn't make it right or true. It just makes you seem a bit monotonous. And repetitive. Even if you try to dress it up in different ways. |  |
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| Every club has a greatest and worst manager of all time on 11:08 - Feb 11 with 4047 views | soclopath |
| Every club has a greatest and worst manager of all time on 10:38 - Feb 11 by Bluefish |
As with all points though I start in a minority of one and eventually you all catch up. To be fair you are usually quicker than most. |
If we get back into the championship Lambert will walk after a disastrous start blaming on no funds.He cv will show how he got us promotion and will easily find another club. |  | | |
| Every club has a greatest and worst manager of all time on 12:08 - Feb 11 with 4018 views | Doctor_Earman |
| Every club has a greatest and worst manager of all time on 09:17 - Feb 11 by Herbivore |
Yeah, he's like Paul Jewell but without the occasional entertaining performances. I place them in the same bracket, Keane just below, then Hurst below that. |
Aren't you forgetting the multiple times we got absolutely thrashed under Jewell?
5-1 at home to Norwich.
7-1 away at Peterborough.
4-0 away at Burnley.
6-0 away at Blackpool.
Whilst results under Lambert have been poor, we haven't been completely tuned over as happened under Jewell. | | | |
| Every club has a greatest and worst manager of all time on 12:14 - Feb 11 with 4007 views | Herbivore |
| Every club has a greatest and worst manager of all time on 12:08 - Feb 11 by Doctor_Earman |
Aren't you forgetting the multiple times we got absolutely thrashed under Jewell?
5-1 at home to Norwich.
7-1 away at Peterborough.
4-0 away at Burnley.
6-0 away at Blackpool.
Whilst results under Lambert have been poor, we haven't been completely tuned over as happened under Jewell. |
Did you miss the Peterborough game? And the Lincoln game? PNE last season? We've been perfectly capable of getting turned over under Lambert, maybe by a couple fewer goals but then we are now playing third division sides. I see Lambert and Jewell in the same bracket, the thrashings under Lambert have been a touch less severe but then we've never really produced the odd dazzling display that we occasionally did under Jewell. He's like Diet Jewell. | |
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| Every club has a greatest and worst manager of all time on 12:38 - Feb 11 with 3986 views | Churchman |
No, Hurst was the worst. Totally inept and out of his depth. The club wasn’t in the greatest of health with disgruntled, distanced supporters, rubbish infrastructure and an owner interested only in his balance sheet, but the team itself wasn’t in that bad a position until he got his hands on it. In order
1. Hurst - utterly clueless. My cat could have done better and he was thick by cat standards
2. Jewell - funny guy but no idea. Probably a good laugh in the bar or a .....’club’
3. Keane - awful bloke, had the best opportunity and hosed it up the wall. Rude, boorish, nasty
4. Lambert - has the right idea regarding the club itself but wouldn’t know a team from a teapot
5. Jackie Milburn - inherited an old team but had no idea. At least he recognised it and resigned
6. Magilton - cared but no man management skills. Just squawked at the players
7. Duncan - awful, just awful
8. Ferguson - dour and a good coach, but no manager
9. McCarthy - many good things, but awful football, annoying, arrogant and divisive
10. Burley - did well, then lost the plot. His teams played football. I barely remember what that is.
I could have included McGiven, but he fell under Lyall who did well until he got too old and tired |  | | |
| Every club has a greatest and worst manager of all time on 12:43 - Feb 11 with 3971 views | Illinoisblue |
Promotion battle on and here we are debating our worst ever manager. These are the Days. |  |
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| Every club has a greatest and worst manager of all time on 12:53 - Feb 11 with 3956 views | Bluefish |
| Every club has a greatest and worst manager of all time on 12:43 - Feb 11 by Illinoisblue |
Promotion battle on and here we are debating our worst ever manager. These are the Days. |
Not much of a promotion battle. Once the games in hand are done we could look firmly mid table | |
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| Every club has a greatest and worst manager of all time on 12:55 - Feb 11 with 3944 views | BiGDonnie |
| Every club has a greatest and worst manager of all time on 08:56 - Feb 11 by Herbivore |
I still make Hurst worse currently. |
I agree.
However, I'd forgive Hurst a lot sooner than I'd ever forgive RK. |  |
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| Every club has a greatest and worst manager of all time on 12:57 - Feb 11 with 3932 views | Herbivore |
| Every club has a greatest and worst manager of all time on 12:55 - Feb 11 by BiGDonnie |
I agree.
However, I'd forgive Hurst a lot sooner than I'd ever forgive RK. |
Yeah, Hurst was just out of his depth. Keane was a pure kunt. | |
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| Every club has a greatest and worst manager of all time on 12:58 - Feb 11 with 3936 views | PJH |
| Every club has a greatest and worst manager of all time on 12:43 - Feb 11 by Illinoisblue |
Promotion battle on and here we are debating our worst ever manager. These are the Days. |
Just looked to see what was happening the last time that we were in a promotion battle to get out of the third division and 63 years ago we were half way through a 12 game unbeaten run.
We also won 6 and drew 1 of our last 7 games that season.
We are probably going to need something similar from now on in to make it this time. |  | | |
| Every club has a greatest and worst manager of all time on 12:59 - Feb 11 with 3931 views | RobTheMonk |
Paul Hurst wrecked the squad morale by the sounds of it.
I have however just been looking at Paul Hurst's 14 games in the Championship that he had (not counting the cup as we always go out of the cups) as well as Lambert's:
Paul Hurst's 14 games - 9 points
Paul Lambert's first 14 games (not including the cup) - 9 points
It was easy to sack Hurst because he proved himself to be a bit of a tool. Lambert's PR at the time was a breath of fresh air although as the months have gone by the fresh air has started to smell of BS.
We then proceeded to get relegated with an absolute whimper (apart from the last day of the season which was an absolute anomaly). Lambert seems like a nice enough bloke, dealt a rough hand, but he's failed to bluff his way through it.
Lambert is marginally better than Hurst for me because he's got the players on board where Hurst and Doigy became public enemy numbero uno.
Hurst seemed a logical appointment at the time but proved to be disasterous. Lambert seemed a questionable appointment (to me) post-Hurst - Norwich connections, few dodgy spells at other clubs... Hamstrung by Hurst and Evans it's no wonder we got relegated.
If we fail to reach top 6 then it's a huge, huge fail on Lambert (and Evans) which potentially pushes him below Hurst. The Rotherham game was embarrassingly bad and how it was only 1-0 I'll never know.
Marginally Hurst for me. |  | | |
| Every club has a greatest and worst manager of all time on 13:00 - Feb 11 with 3930 views | BiGDonnie |
| Every club has a greatest and worst manager of all time on 12:57 - Feb 11 by Herbivore |
Yeah, Hurst was just out of his depth. Keane was a pure kunt. |
Selling Jordan Rhodes for £700k citing the fact that he and Wickham couldn't play together still hurts me to this day. | |
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| Every club has a greatest and worst manager of all time on 13:01 - Feb 11 with 3924 views | Tangledupin_Blue |
Anyone who thinks that Lambert is our worst ever manager is an idiot. |  |
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| Every club has a greatest and worst manager of all time on 13:02 - Feb 11 with 3919 views | Illinoisblue |
| Every club has a greatest and worst manager of all time on 12:53 - Feb 11 by Bluefish |
Not much of a promotion battle. Once the games in hand are done we could look firmly mid table |
That’s the spirit! | |
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| Every club has a greatest and worst manager of all time on 14:01 - Feb 11 with 3883 views | Garv |
| Every club has a greatest and worst manager of all time on 12:08 - Feb 11 by Doctor_Earman |
Aren't you forgetting the multiple times we got absolutely thrashed under Jewell?
5-1 at home to Norwich.
7-1 away at Peterborough.
4-0 away at Burnley.
6-0 away at Blackpool.
Whilst results under Lambert have been poor, we haven't been completely tuned over as happened under Jewell. |
The same can be said for Hurst, to be fair. In both cases it's because teams knew two goals would be more than enough to beat us. Under Jewell we carried a bit of a goal threat so teams didn't always take their foot off the gas.
We lost so many games 2-0 last season because both us and the oppo knew we wouldn't score. |  |
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| Every club has a greatest and worst manager of all time on 14:04 - Feb 11 with 3879 views | Herbivore |
| Every club has a greatest and worst manager of all time on 14:01 - Feb 11 by Garv |
The same can be said for Hurst, to be fair. In both cases it's because teams knew two goals would be more than enough to beat us. Under Jewell we carried a bit of a goal threat so teams didn't always take their foot off the gas.
We lost so many games 2-0 last season because both us and the oppo knew we wouldn't score. |
2-0 was our stock scoreline last season, except for the brief flurry of 1-1 draws around March time. | |
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