| Just seen pics of the underground this morning 07:58 - Mar 24 with 28972 views | noggin |
Still passengers standing shoulder to shoulder. FFS. |  |
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| Just seen pics of the underground this morning on 10:30 - Mar 25 with 849 views | BrixtonBlue |
| Just seen pics of the underground this morning on 09:08 - Mar 25 by Herbivore |
And this is the point "absolutely necessary" in the context of the address being given seemed to suggest to many people that you should only go to work if your job is necessary for the effort to combat the virus or to keep society running during lockdown. It has since been clarified that "absolutely necessary" actually meant you can go to any job that can't be done at home where the business is still running. The thread on the night has most people interpreting it as you did as in the context of the address where he was announcing something close to a lockdown it made sense to think "absolutely necessary" was in relation to combating Covid-19 rather than absolutely necessary to individuals or their employers.
When I said at the time it wasn't clear a few people said it was, that he clearly meant key workers. Dollers says it's clear and that he meant anyone who can't work from home. That in itself proves that the message wasn't clear. |
Again, you've taken "absolutely necessary" out of context and lopped off the rest of the sentence.
Disingenuous.
People who thought it was key workers are reading something that isn't there. He'd have said "unless you're a key worker" if he meant key workers. |  |
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| Just seen pics of the underground this morning on 10:32 - Mar 25 with 844 views | Herbivore |
| Just seen pics of the underground this morning on 10:30 - Mar 25 by BrixtonBlue |
Again, you've taken "absolutely necessary" out of context and lopped off the rest of the sentence.
Disingenuous.
People who thought it was key workers are reading something that isn't there. He'd have said "unless you're a key worker" if he meant key workers. |
It's like trying to debate with a brick wall, or perhaps a plank. |  |
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| Just seen pics of the underground this morning on 10:33 - Mar 25 with 844 views | BrixtonBlue |
| Just seen pics of the underground this morning on 09:15 - Mar 25 by GaryCooper |
The message has not been clear, I was in London on Monday, a major construction company building 1300 flats still had an operational site of 300 staff, the canteens were full of tables of four eating.
Meanwhile some are cowering in their homes scared to open the front door.
Mixed message stupidity. |
Whether construction workers should or shouldn't be working is a separate issue to what is being discussed here. I'd agree that's a bit daft.
I made no comment on if the advice was good advice. | |
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| Just seen pics of the underground this morning on 10:36 - Mar 25 with 829 views | BrixtonBlue |
| Just seen pics of the underground this morning on 09:28 - Mar 25 by Herbivore |
Indeed. Sounds to me like they themselves weren't sure which way to go which is why the address was deliberately ambiguous. At some point they've then decided not to go with key workers only and to allow everyone that can't work from home to go to work, which seems at odds with the wider strategy of social distancing. |
If these tweets are real then I'd agree, that is odd and confusing. | |
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| Just seen pics of the underground this morning on 10:37 - Mar 25 with 824 views | BrixtonBlue |
| Just seen pics of the underground this morning on 09:42 - Mar 25 by C_HealyIsAPleasure |
I did actually think the speech itself was clear, and my understanding from it appears to be the correct one (ie. you can go to work if you can’t work from home), however clearly it wasn’t given the different interpretations. Other statements/advice published have been contradictory too
That said I do think some of the confusion came from people trying to interpret it in the way they wanted it to work rather than listening to what was actually said, and a general desire to criticise come what may |
I agree with pretty much everything you've said here Mr Healy! | |
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| Just seen pics of the underground this morning on 10:41 - Mar 25 with 818 views | BrixtonBlue |
| Just seen pics of the underground this morning on 10:32 - Mar 25 by Herbivore |
It's like trying to debate with a brick wall, or perhaps a plank. |
The fact that you can't understand a simple English sentence suggests it's you who's the brick wall or plank.
No need to get abusive just because some disagrees with you Herbs. it's very unbecoming. | |
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| Just seen pics of the underground this morning on 10:46 - Mar 25 with 810 views | Ryorry |
| Just seen pics of the underground this morning on 09:18 - Mar 25 by colchesterchris |
Agreed. Criticising the comms and the strategy can be done independently with each other, and I don't see the need to defend the comms out of loyalty to the strategy. Personally I'm not convinced by both.
The below is about as conclusive you can get that the comms were not clear at all. Spot the difference between the UK governments 9pm and 10pm advice after the PM's address Monday.
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Thanks for that spot-the-difference Chris! I didn't see or hear any radio, TV or internet on Mon from 4pm until 10pm BBC1 TV news. On hearing that, my interpretation was that Johnson meant anyone who can't work from home. |  |
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| Just seen pics of the underground this morning on 10:56 - Mar 25 with 789 views | Radlett_blue |
| Just seen pics of the underground this morning on 10:15 - Mar 25 by Herbivore |
It's not as straightforward as applying common sense though. Matt Hancock said yesterday that people who can't work from home should still go into work, even though common sense would tell you that getting on a packed bus or tube at the moment is a bad idea. The messaging around work has been a bit of a mess. A lot of people thought on Monday night that work was going to stay open for essential staff only, the government briefly put out advice to that effect, and then it's shifted to go to work if you can't work from home. There needs to be clarity at times like this. |
Exactly, it isn't straightforward at all. The situation is changing every day and the problem is that most actions have unintended consequences. |  |
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| Just seen pics of the underground this morning on 11:37 - Mar 25 with 757 views | C_HealyIsAPleasure |
| Just seen pics of the underground this morning on 10:37 - Mar 25 by BrixtonBlue |
I agree with pretty much everything you've said here Mr Healy! |
It’s a lockdown miracle |  |
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