| Just seen pics of the underground this morning 07:58 - Mar 24 with 28929 views | noggin |
Still passengers standing shoulder to shoulder. FFS. |  |
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| Just seen pics of the underground this morning on 14:22 - Mar 24 with 3142 views | BrixtonBlue |
| Just seen pics of the underground this morning on 14:19 - Mar 24 by Herbivore |
That's not how others have taken it. It's also not clear, listening to Michael Gove earlier and seeing some now removed advice that the Government put out last night, that your interpretation was what was intended. The messaging hasn't been clear. I'm not sure why you can't grasp that when multiple people say advice is clear whilst simultaneously offering different interpretations of said advice then by definition it isn't clear. |
We're going round in circles, can't be bothered with this anymore. |  |
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| Just seen pics of the underground this morning on 14:46 - Mar 24 with 3118 views | Herbivore |
| Just seen pics of the underground this morning on 14:19 - Mar 24 by BrixtonBlue |
I didn't say whether the advice was right or not, I just said it was pretty clear.
It certainly doesn't make social distancing pointless. |
I've already demonstrated that it's not clear. But what is clear is that you don't agree so let's leave it there. |  |
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| Just seen pics of the underground this morning on 14:48 - Mar 24 with 3118 views | sparks |
1. It all rather depends whether you qualify for the various additional elements of UC
2. Bills of £1000 a month after mortgage is, I would hope, a relatively unusual situation! |  |
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| Just seen pics of the underground this morning on 14:50 - Mar 24 with 3113 views | Herbivore |
| Just seen pics of the underground this morning on 14:22 - Mar 24 by BrixtonBlue |
We're going round in circles, can't be bothered with this anymore. |
You're going round in circles because you aren't willing to listen. But you're right, it's pointless. | |
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| Just seen pics of the underground this morning on 15:17 - Mar 24 with 3096 views | BrixtonBlue |
| Just seen pics of the underground this morning on 14:50 - Mar 24 by Herbivore |
You're going round in circles because you aren't willing to listen. But you're right, it's pointless. |
Lol, I could say exactly the same about you.
Reasons you can leave your home;
1. Travelling to and from work, but only where this is absolutely necessary and cannot be done from home.
2. Travelling to and from work, but only if you're a key worker.
One of these Boris actually said. The other he didn't. | |
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| Just seen pics of the underground this morning on 15:21 - Mar 24 with 3094 views | Herbivore |
| Just seen pics of the underground this morning on 15:17 - Mar 24 by BrixtonBlue |
Lol, I could say exactly the same about you.
Reasons you can leave your home;
1. Travelling to and from work, but only where this is absolutely necessary and cannot be done from home.
2. Travelling to and from work, but only if you're a key worker.
One of these Boris actually said. The other he didn't. |
Don't shoot the messenger, that's how some other people have interpreted it. There is widespread uncertainty about what constitutes "absolutely necessary" in the context of still going to work during a national emergency, a point you've repeatedly swerved. Check out this thread for several intelligent posters disagreeing over what was meant by the advice: "You must stay at home" by Mullet 23 Mar 2020 20:40Who is writing his speeches? He means "you will" doesn't he?
Boris has not been clear enough throughout for me. His choice of language and form goes before him.
Dollers, your sole argument is that you think it's clear. I've provided plenty of evidence that it's not and all you're doing is repeating that it's clear. So yeah, I think we're done really if that's all you've got. [Post edited 24 Mar 2020 15:25]
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| Just seen pics of the underground this morning on 15:42 - Mar 24 with 3074 views | BrixtonBlue |
| Just seen pics of the underground this morning on 15:21 - Mar 24 by Herbivore |
Don't shoot the messenger, that's how some other people have interpreted it. There is widespread uncertainty about what constitutes "absolutely necessary" in the context of still going to work during a national emergency, a point you've repeatedly swerved. Check out this thread for several intelligent posters disagreeing over what was meant by the advice: "You must stay at home" by Mullet 23 Mar 2020 20:40Who is writing his speeches? He means "you will" doesn't he?
Boris has not been clear enough throughout for me. His choice of language and form goes before him.
Dollers, your sole argument is that you think it's clear. I've provided plenty of evidence that it's not and all you're doing is repeating that it's clear. So yeah, I think we're done really if that's all you've got. [Post edited 24 Mar 2020 15:25]
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I haven't swerved anything at all. The full sentence is "absolutely necessary and cannot be done from home."
I've posted two sentences, one he said one he didn't. Throughout this you've been trying to suggest option 2 could be interpreted from what he said.
OR, rather than trying to interpret, you could go by what he actually said, take it at face value and stop trying to read things into it.
If you consider your work to be absolutely necessary and it can't be done from home, then off you go. Whether that's right advice or not, I haven't commented on. It is, however, clear.
I've read Mullet's thread and he got slaughtered for it.
I could say the sky is blue and grass is green and there would be people who argue that information isn't clear. That doesn't make it not clear though. People have their own agendas for saying it's not clear, or they're really stupid. Unless Boris says your specific job should be halted, you have to make your own judgement on whether it can be done from home and is absolutely necessary.
It's really not difficult. | |
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| Just seen pics of the underground this morning on 15:50 - Mar 24 with 3066 views | Herbivore |
| Just seen pics of the underground this morning on 15:42 - Mar 24 by BrixtonBlue |
I haven't swerved anything at all. The full sentence is "absolutely necessary and cannot be done from home."
I've posted two sentences, one he said one he didn't. Throughout this you've been trying to suggest option 2 could be interpreted from what he said.
OR, rather than trying to interpret, you could go by what he actually said, take it at face value and stop trying to read things into it.
If you consider your work to be absolutely necessary and it can't be done from home, then off you go. Whether that's right advice or not, I haven't commented on. It is, however, clear.
I've read Mullet's thread and he got slaughtered for it.
I could say the sky is blue and grass is green and there would be people who argue that information isn't clear. That doesn't make it not clear though. People have their own agendas for saying it's not clear, or they're really stupid. Unless Boris says your specific job should be halted, you have to make your own judgement on whether it can be done from home and is absolutely necessary.
It's really not difficult. |
That's a whole lot of nothing. Enjoy the rest of your day. | |
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| Just seen pics of the underground this morning on 15:54 - Mar 24 with 3061 views | BrixtonBlue |
| Just seen pics of the underground this morning on 15:50 - Mar 24 by Herbivore |
That's a whole lot of nothing. Enjoy the rest of your day. |
Haha. Dollers 1 Herbs 0.
Thank you and goodnight. | |
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| Just seen pics of the underground this morning on 15:55 - Mar 24 with 3058 views | Herbivore |
| Just seen pics of the underground this morning on 15:54 - Mar 24 by BrixtonBlue |
Haha. Dollers 1 Herbs 0.
Thank you and goodnight. |
Dollers, you are a permanent face palm. | |
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| Just seen pics of the underground this morning on 16:22 - Mar 24 with 3043 views | BrixtonBlue |
| Just seen pics of the underground this morning on 15:55 - Mar 24 by Herbivore |
Dollers, you are a permanent face palm. |
I offered you a full explanation, clearly laid out, with extra emphasis on the bit you reckoned I'd swerved, and all you could come back with was, "That's a whole lot of nothing."
Those are the words of someone who's lost the argument. The end. | |
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| Just seen pics of the underground this morning on 16:34 - Mar 24 with 3031 views | Lord_Lucan |
| Just seen pics of the underground this morning on 14:02 - Mar 24 by Herbivore |
It's easy for you to criticise when you can do your job without coming into contact with anyone. Plenty of people can't work from home and need to earn to live. They will see their work as being essential and will carry on doing it for as long as they are able to. |
But I clearly said that if I wasn't lucky enough to be able do do as I can then I wouldn't go in.
You can't on the one hand moan about people being selfish and then say they have no choice. |  |
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| Just seen pics of the underground this morning on 16:38 - Mar 24 with 3024 views | BrixtonBlue |
| Just seen pics of the underground this morning on 16:34 - Mar 24 by Lord_Lucan |
But I clearly said that if I wasn't lucky enough to be able do do as I can then I wouldn't go in.
You can't on the one hand moan about people being selfish and then say they have no choice. |
If, as Herbs says, people are finding the advice confusing, but we think it's clear, does it mean that you and me are just brighter than everyone else? [Post edited 24 Mar 2020 17:35]
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| Just seen pics of the underground this morning on 17:35 - Mar 24 with 2995 views | m14_blue |
The government need to move on this now.
Pictures of our packed tube trains are being shown on news channels around the world in complete amazement.
If your job isn’t essential to the running of the country or the fight against Coronavirus, you should be at home, and your boss should be making that clear. |  | | |
| Just seen pics of the underground this morning on 17:37 - Mar 24 with 2989 views | jeera |
| Just seen pics of the underground this morning on 16:38 - Mar 24 by BrixtonBlue |
If, as Herbs says, people are finding the advice confusing, but we think it's clear, does it mean that you and me are just brighter than everyone else? [Post edited 24 Mar 2020 17:35]
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'You and I'. |  |
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| Just seen pics of the underground this morning on 17:41 - Mar 24 with 2984 views | Herbivore |
| Just seen pics of the underground this morning on 16:22 - Mar 24 by BrixtonBlue |
I offered you a full explanation, clearly laid out, with extra emphasis on the bit you reckoned I'd swerved, and all you could come back with was, "That's a whole lot of nothing."
Those are the words of someone who's lost the argument. The end. |
Nobody ever loses an argument with you Dollers, they just get bored and walk away. | |
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| Just seen pics of the underground this morning on 17:41 - Mar 24 with 2982 views | Bluesquid |
This is not really helping matters and surely it needs to be upgraded and updated doesn't it?
"As of 19 March 2020, COVID-19 is no longer considered to be a high consequence infectious diseases (sic) in the UK"
https://newspunch.com/covid-19-not-a-high-consequence-disease-admits-uk-governme
Edit. SARS is listed as a HCID but not C-19 which is hard to understand.
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| Just seen pics of the underground this morning on 17:43 - Mar 24 with 2976 views | Herbivore |
| Just seen pics of the underground this morning on 16:34 - Mar 24 by Lord_Lucan |
But I clearly said that if I wasn't lucky enough to be able do do as I can then I wouldn't go in.
You can't on the one hand moan about people being selfish and then say they have no choice. |
It's much easier to say that when you're not actually having to make the decision though. If I couldn't work from home and maintaining my income was dependent on going into work I think I'd find that a really tough call. That's why people shouldn't be being made to make that call. | |
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| Just seen pics of the underground this morning on 17:44 - Mar 24 with 2974 views | Herbivore |
| Just seen pics of the underground this morning on 16:38 - Mar 24 by BrixtonBlue |
If, as Herbs says, people are finding the advice confusing, but we think it's clear, does it mean that you and me are just brighter than everyone else? [Post edited 24 Mar 2020 17:35]
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No, because others have also thought the advice is clear and reached very different conclusions to you on what the advice is meant to mean. Those reaching that conclusion seem at least as sharp as, indeed probably sharper than, you. | |
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| Just seen pics of the underground this morning on 17:58 - Mar 24 with 2953 views | BrixtonBlue |
| Just seen pics of the underground this morning on 17:41 - Mar 24 by Herbivore |
Nobody ever loses an argument with you Dollers, they just get bored and walk away. |
Another classic "I've lost" line. | |
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| Just seen pics of the underground this morning on 18:06 - Mar 24 with 2939 views | BrixtonBlue |
| Just seen pics of the underground this morning on 17:44 - Mar 24 by Herbivore |
No, because others have also thought the advice is clear and reached very different conclusions to you on what the advice is meant to mean. Those reaching that conclusion seem at least as sharp as, indeed probably sharper than, you. |
Can you link me to someone who's said the advice is clear but they've reached very different conclusions to me? | |
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| Just seen pics of the underground this morning on 18:14 - Mar 24 with 2911 views | Clapham_Junction |
There have been a bunch of people playing football in the (locked) courts opposite my flat for about an hour. What can you do about idiocy like this? |  | | |
| Just seen pics of the underground this morning on 18:18 - Mar 24 with 2904 views | jeera |
| Just seen pics of the underground this morning on 18:14 - Mar 24 by Clapham_Junction |
There have been a bunch of people playing football in the (locked) courts opposite my flat for about an hour. What can you do about idiocy like this? |
You could have filmed it and maybe run a book on the match outcome. | |
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| Just seen pics of the underground this morning on 18:21 - Mar 24 with 2897 views | Herbivore |
| Just seen pics of the underground this morning on 18:06 - Mar 24 by BrixtonBlue |
Can you link me to someone who's said the advice is clear but they've reached very different conclusions to me? |
I did earlier, you clearly didn't read it. At least two people in Mullet's thread interpreted it as relating to key workers. One poster with that view got quite shirty with me for saying the advice was unclear, which is quite ironic really given that you're doing the same despite reaching a different conclusion to the other poster and thus proving me right.
Also, see this from the Beeb:
People can go to work if they cannot do their work at home, the health secretary has said, amid confusion over the new coronavirus restrictions.
It comes after calls for clarity, including from construction workers, about Monday's wider shutdown measures."
Not the kind of thing that's usually required after a clear and unequivocal statrement. And it's not you being smarter than others, Dollers, in fact it's quite the opposite. [Post edited 24 Mar 2020 18:31]
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