| People working from home 21:00 - May 1 with 4701 views | gtsb1966 |
Can you see companies moving to smaller premises after this is all over and having more people work from home. I had to ring an insurance company to sort something for my daughter and the person I spoke to was working from home as were his colleagues yet they sorted my query between them in no time . Has anyone found it easy or has it been a nightmare? [Post edited 1 May 2020 21:01]
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| People working from home on 14:54 - May 2 with 467 views | Joey_Joe_Joe_Junior |
| People working from home on 08:19 - May 2 by bluelagos |
Another Newsnight debate from the week had a guest make the point that post virus, we are likely to see businesses relocating out of London to the regions. Driven by cost savings but also the recognition that many workers can work from home 4 days out of 5 with a day a week in the office.
Seems a compelling case to me, save £s on travel, housing, office costs and all with an environmental upside and less wasted time commuting.
We are social animals and a skyped meeting isn't quite the same, but the benefits surely outweigh the negatives? |
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| People working from home on 14:56 - May 2 with 460 views | bluelagos |
| People working from home on 14:51 - May 2 by Joey_Joe_Joe_Junior |
God reading this thread is depressing, you all must be enjoying the lockdown! Besides the social aspect of working in the middle of big city, I personally love coming back to flat after a busy day becuase I never really associated with too much work before, now I do. Do you think the scene will be the same in these cities if everyone works from home?
Millions of people worldwide have been stood down and let go because they can’t perform their duties. So many suspended projects etc. The notion that everyone can do their job with a internet connection and a laptop is false (including many “office” jobs). Zoom is also becoming old pretty quick. Job opportunities in certain markets are half the reason people choose a place to work. Training my team virtually is very challenging.
Either everyone on here is in their mid forties and fifties with kids and working in dull retail parks or they’re boring, maybe both :) |
You think a social life in say Birmingham, Liverpool or Leeds is any less fun that one in London? Perfectly possible for UK companies to move to smaller cities and for their workers to still enjoy the social side of living in a city if that is their thing.
At the moment London attracts the businesses and consequently ambitious workers. But nothing stopping other cities doing the exact same in the future. |  |
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| People working from home on 15:05 - May 2 with 447 views | Keno |
| People working from home on 14:51 - May 2 by Joey_Joe_Joe_Junior |
God reading this thread is depressing, you all must be enjoying the lockdown! Besides the social aspect of working in the middle of big city, I personally love coming back to flat after a busy day becuase I never really associated with too much work before, now I do. Do you think the scene will be the same in these cities if everyone works from home?
Millions of people worldwide have been stood down and let go because they can’t perform their duties. So many suspended projects etc. The notion that everyone can do their job with a internet connection and a laptop is false (including many “office” jobs). Zoom is also becoming old pretty quick. Job opportunities in certain markets are half the reason people choose a place to work. Training my team virtually is very challenging.
Either everyone on here is in their mid forties and fifties with kids and working in dull retail parks or they’re boring, maybe both :) |
I’ve worked from home for about 12 years cos I prefer it
In that time I’ve built up a business with 6 staff, all of whom can work from now if they choice although we do have service office space
During the lockdown all my staff are on full pay and hopefully being kept more or less fully occupied. For the record I haven’t taken any drawings this month to make sure the staff are ok.
Am I enjoying it - not really for reasons a few of you know I shouldn’t have been in this situation but I’m trying to make the best of it that I can [Post edited 2 May 2020 15:06]
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| People working from home on 15:07 - May 2 with 442 views | Joey_Joe_Joe_Junior |
| People working from home on 14:56 - May 2 by bluelagos |
You think a social life in say Birmingham, Liverpool or Leeds is any less fun that one in London? Perfectly possible for UK companies to move to smaller cities and for their workers to still enjoy the social side of living in a city if that is their thing.
At the moment London attracts the businesses and consequently ambitious workers. But nothing stopping other cities doing the exact same in the future. |
Tot he first question, yes I do!
That’s fine and the UK has always been too London centric in some respects I was talking about people permanently working from home though. | | | |
| People working from home on 15:11 - May 2 with 436 views | Ewan_Oozami |
| People working from home on 21:57 - May 1 by vapour_trail |
We will be reducing footprint, absolutely. We’ve proven we can wfh en masse so why accrue the cost.
I miss the office though. Half and half is my preference. And I’ve fcked my neck and back by spending the entire day on zoom and teams. Usually I just walk the floors and go and see people if I want to get something done. |
A veritable Captain Peacock, eh? :-) |  |
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| People working from home on 15:11 - May 2 with 436 views | SpruceMoose |
| People working from home on 15:07 - May 2 by Joey_Joe_Joe_Junior |
Tot he first question, yes I do!
That’s fine and the UK has always been too London centric in some respects I was talking about people permanently working from home though. |
Don't you live near Philly? |  |
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| People working from home on 15:22 - May 2 with 428 views | Joey_Joe_Joe_Junior |
| People working from home on 15:11 - May 2 by SpruceMoose |
Don't you live near Philly? |
I’ve lived in London and spent time in all the places mentioned so that should qualify me, albeit I would have no real idea what living in the middle of Brum, Liverpool or Leeds is like now. In the UK thought I’d probably only really live in a London. | | | |
| People working from home on 15:56 - May 2 with 421 views | N2_Blue |
| People working from home on 14:51 - May 2 by Joey_Joe_Joe_Junior |
God reading this thread is depressing, you all must be enjoying the lockdown! Besides the social aspect of working in the middle of big city, I personally love coming back to flat after a busy day becuase I never really associated with too much work before, now I do. Do you think the scene will be the same in these cities if everyone works from home?
Millions of people worldwide have been stood down and let go because they can’t perform their duties. So many suspended projects etc. The notion that everyone can do their job with a internet connection and a laptop is false (including many “office” jobs). Zoom is also becoming old pretty quick. Job opportunities in certain markets are half the reason people choose a place to work. Training my team virtually is very challenging.
Either everyone on here is in their mid forties and fifties with kids and working in dull retail parks or they’re boring, maybe both :) |
I think this is the first time I’ve ever agree with you on here JJJ
The viewpoint that home working will become the new norm is just wrong.
The economic and social welfare impact just to save big businesses commercial rentals will be too huge. If all office jobs went to home working the number of jobs that would be lost would be disastrous, i.e. cleaners, security, catering, transport…too many to list. Millions of jobs would be gone.
So as well as an economic crisis there would be huge social welfare and health crisis. Mental health issues would sky rocket and perhaps more worryingly domestic abuse. It’s been well documented that domestic and child abuse is at crazy levels currently. Can you imagine what happens when those married couples who only have their only time away from each other by going to work suddenly spend 24 hours with each other. Seriously this would not be good, it would be a social welfare disaster.
More companies will have an element of home working and introduce flexibility to employees to spend more time working away from the office, but there will not suddenly be en-masse home working. It would have too much of a disastrous consequence on economies and social welfare and metal health. |  |
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| People working from home on 17:01 - May 2 with 409 views | GeoffSentence |
| People working from home on 21:45 - May 1 by monytowbray |
Commercial Property Owners? That’s very nice of you to not call them by their real title which is “Workshy Exploitive Leeches” I will say :) |
You have a strangely black and white view of things sometimes Callis. Certainly I wouldn't describe the farmer behind me who rents out some of his building as a small office and warehouse as workshy, nor exploitative, nor a leach, he just has some property on his farm that someone else wants to use. Nor would I call my buddy who used his redundancy pay to buy a property whith his brother which they rent to a chippy to top up the small earnings they make from gardening as those things either. In fact generally speaking if there weren't commercial landowners to rent property out things would be more difficult for small and medium sized businesses who either do not want to or cannot afford to invest a shed load of money up front in property. |  |
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| People working from home on 17:18 - May 2 with 402 views | TractorWood |
| People working from home on 22:12 - May 1 by Joey_Joe_Joe_Junior |
Screw that, when it’s safe to do so I personally want to get the hell out of my flat and back to the office. Whilst I am for flexibility for those who want, especially considering childcare commitment etc cities are the lifeblood of our economies and people working there create millions of jobs. Also the social scene and opportunities for young professionals is why people want to move to certain markets in the first place. Not to mention the inability to train people and communicate, it’s just not the same. Ever been to square mile or lower Manhattan on the weekend? This shouldn’t be a permanent vision of the future. [Post edited 1 May 2020 22:13]
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I think we will see some counter urbanisation from this. There is an entire commuter belt in London of people who pay £6k a year and 500 hours a year on a train to work in offices for seemingly little obvious reasons. The businesses that can will naturally migrate to more of a flexible basis and take advantage of the lower footprint. £70+psqf in London and who knows how much in NYC is definitely looking a fallacy.
People will still work in offices obviously put the status quo is now up in the air. |  |
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| People working from home on 18:56 - May 2 with 375 views | Joey_Joe_Joe_Junior |
| People working from home on 15:56 - May 2 by N2_Blue |
I think this is the first time I’ve ever agree with you on here JJJ
The viewpoint that home working will become the new norm is just wrong.
The economic and social welfare impact just to save big businesses commercial rentals will be too huge. If all office jobs went to home working the number of jobs that would be lost would be disastrous, i.e. cleaners, security, catering, transport…too many to list. Millions of jobs would be gone.
So as well as an economic crisis there would be huge social welfare and health crisis. Mental health issues would sky rocket and perhaps more worryingly domestic abuse. It’s been well documented that domestic and child abuse is at crazy levels currently. Can you imagine what happens when those married couples who only have their only time away from each other by going to work suddenly spend 24 hours with each other. Seriously this would not be good, it would be a social welfare disaster.
More companies will have an element of home working and introduce flexibility to employees to spend more time working away from the office, but there will not suddenly be en-masse home working. It would have too much of a disastrous consequence on economies and social welfare and metal health. |
You should try it more often. It’s good for you. | | | |
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