| #NoDramaJustStarmer 21:50 - Jun 6 with 5466 views | tractordownsouth |
Brilliant to have cut a 22 point lead to 2 points in such a short space of time, but the fact these charlatans are still in front after all this chaos shows how much of a mountain there is to be climbed |  |
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| #NoDramaJustStarmer on 11:19 - Jun 7 with 1097 views | gordon |
Although of course once Boris Johnson comes back from Brussels having bravely renegotiated that awful Brexit deal that Boris Johnson negotiated a year ago, people will surely rally round Boris Johnson as he then bravely tries to rescue the country from the various disasters inflicted by the Brexit deal renegotiated by Boris Johnson. |  | | |
| #NoDramaJustStarmer on 11:45 - Jun 7 with 1056 views | pointofblue |
| #NoDramaJustStarmer on 11:19 - Jun 7 by gordon |
Although of course once Boris Johnson comes back from Brussels having bravely renegotiated that awful Brexit deal that Boris Johnson negotiated a year ago, people will surely rally round Boris Johnson as he then bravely tries to rescue the country from the various disasters inflicted by the Brexit deal renegotiated by Boris Johnson. |
Of course, as it won’t be his fault. He would have been held back by the Remainers and the nasty EU negotiators. |  |
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| #NoDramaJustStarmer on 11:48 - Jun 7 with 1046 views | Herbivore |
| #NoDramaJustStarmer on 10:28 - Jun 7 by GlasgowBlue |
I see the embittered Corbynistas have coined the term “Starmtroopers” for supporters of the new leader. |
For all your talk of Corbynistas, I genuinely don't think I've come across anyone more obsessed with him than you. You still bring him up in multiple political threads and you wasted a fair bit of time rehashing your old arguments with Darth yesterday (or the day before, I lose track of days now). He's on the backbenches again now, maybe it's time to let it go. |  |
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| #NoDramaJustStarmer on 11:49 - Jun 7 with 1040 views | Darth_Koont |
That's even with their muddled and opaque handling of Coronavirus and a sympathetic "But Corbyn" media giving Starmer a free ride while they also stick the boot in to the Tories too.
Unfortunately, I think we're seeing the same as the Trump supporters in the US in terms of a pretty immovable Brexit base. As coronavirus slips into the background over the next year or two it will be casually re-written as a success, the Brexit saga will take over as a tale of plucky Brits looking to stop the world and get off, and Starmer will be the evil paedo-supporting Remainer of an elitist establishment that does't care about the ordinary man in the street. To fight that, Labour will neuter themselves and cut back on the progressive policies to meet media approval.
All very predictable. |  |
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| #NoDramaJustStarmer on 11:53 - Jun 7 with 1026 views | GlasgowBlue |
| #NoDramaJustStarmer on 10:47 - Jun 7 by WD19 |
Are there any of those remaining outside of secure institutions!?
Although inevitably as soon as one of his 13,256,843 manifesto ideas are enacted by someone else the screams of “we were right” and “he was just ahead of his time” will be heard on the moon I am sure.... |
The Canary and Novara are playing the Zionist stooge care.
TDS comes across quite a few of them on Twitter. |  |
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| #NoDramaJustStarmer on 11:54 - Jun 7 with 1024 views | Herbivore |
| #NoDramaJustStarmer on 11:19 - Jun 7 by gordon |
Although of course once Boris Johnson comes back from Brussels having bravely renegotiated that awful Brexit deal that Boris Johnson negotiated a year ago, people will surely rally round Boris Johnson as he then bravely tries to rescue the country from the various disasters inflicted by the Brexit deal renegotiated by Boris Johnson. |
I think Brexit is the only thing keeping the Tory polling as high as it is. There's a chunk of the most hardcore Brexiters who won't countenance switching away from BoJo and the Tories until Brexit has been well and truly done. It might be that some then drift away.
It is quite staggering how an awful and divisive referendum campaign managed to turn an issue that wasn't on most people's radars into the number 1 got political issue for years to come. A masterclass in manipulating public opinion. | |
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| #NoDramaJustStarmer on 12:07 - Jun 7 with 1006 views | Darth_Koont |
| #NoDramaJustStarmer on 11:53 - Jun 7 by GlasgowBlue |
The Canary and Novara are playing the Zionist stooge care.
TDS comes across quite a few of them on Twitter. |
Smearers gonna smear.
If we editorialise the views of the various political factions then we'd all be antisemites or, in your case, islamophobes. The key as always is what's the truth behind it.
The Israel Lobby has undue influence in our party politics, and not just in terms of foreign policy. You can agree or disagree but you can't deny that there's evidence for that. Starmer and others on the Labour right should be doing more to distance themselves in the same way that Johnson and the Tories should do more to distance themselves from Russian influence and involvement in our politics. | |
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| #NoDramaJustStarmer on 12:10 - Jun 7 with 997 views | GlasgowBlue |
| #NoDramaJustStarmer on 12:07 - Jun 7 by Darth_Koont |
Smearers gonna smear.
If we editorialise the views of the various political factions then we'd all be antisemites or, in your case, islamophobes. The key as always is what's the truth behind it.
The Israel Lobby has undue influence in our party politics, and not just in terms of foreign policy. You can agree or disagree but you can't deny that there's evidence for that. Starmer and others on the Labour right should be doing more to distance themselves in the same way that Johnson and the Tories should do more to distance themselves from Russian influence and involvement in our politics. |
But it’s people like this bloke who you previously linked who is smearing Starmer. Not me.
https://www.thejc.com/news/uk-news/lecturer-who-said-starmer-received-zionist-mo | |
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| #NoDramaJustStarmer on 12:12 - Jun 7 with 991 views | GlasgowBlue |
| #NoDramaJustStarmer on 11:48 - Jun 7 by Herbivore |
For all your talk of Corbynistas, I genuinely don't think I've come across anyone more obsessed with him than you. You still bring him up in multiple political threads and you wasted a fair bit of time rehashing your old arguments with Darth yesterday (or the day before, I lose track of days now). He's on the backbenches again now, maybe it's time to let it go. |
Yesterday. And Darth started the thread on Corbyn that I replied to.
I’m sorry that I spent a lot of time attacking man who called the sort of people who would see my wife and my children exterminated his “friends”
Jewish lives don’t matte eh. | |
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| #NoDramaJustStarmer on 12:15 - Jun 7 with 980 views | footers |
| #NoDramaJustStarmer on 12:12 - Jun 7 by GlasgowBlue |
Yesterday. And Darth started the thread on Corbyn that I replied to.
I’m sorry that I spent a lot of time attacking man who called the sort of people who would see my wife and my children exterminated his “friends”
Jewish lives don’t matte eh. |
Don't worry, the "existential threat" is over now. You can stand down. |  |
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| #NoDramaJustStarmer on 12:15 - Jun 7 with 974 views | Darth_Koont |
| #NoDramaJustStarmer on 11:54 - Jun 7 by Herbivore |
I think Brexit is the only thing keeping the Tory polling as high as it is. There's a chunk of the most hardcore Brexiters who won't countenance switching away from BoJo and the Tories until Brexit has been well and truly done. It might be that some then drift away.
It is quite staggering how an awful and divisive referendum campaign managed to turn an issue that wasn't on most people's radars into the number 1 got political issue for years to come. A masterclass in manipulating public opinion. |
Agreed. It's looking like the Tories' bedrock support is Brexiteers. So over the next few years leading up to a general election, I can't see much else other than identity politics on that theme.
And perversely, the more problems with Brexit, the more that British/foreign, Brexiteer/Remoaner narrative and division will be kept in the public eye.
Which is something to look forward to ...  | |
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| #NoDramaJustStarmer on 12:17 - Jun 7 with 969 views | Herbivore |
| #NoDramaJustStarmer on 12:12 - Jun 7 by GlasgowBlue |
Yesterday. And Darth started the thread on Corbyn that I replied to.
I’m sorry that I spent a lot of time attacking man who called the sort of people who would see my wife and my children exterminated his “friends”
Jewish lives don’t matte eh. |
That's some excellent spin. You can take the man out of the Tory Party but you can't take the Tory Party out of the man. | |
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| #NoDramaJustStarmer on 12:18 - Jun 7 with 964 views | Darth_Koont |
| #NoDramaJustStarmer on 12:12 - Jun 7 by GlasgowBlue |
Yesterday. And Darth started the thread on Corbyn that I replied to.
I’m sorry that I spent a lot of time attacking man who called the sort of people who would see my wife and my children exterminated his “friends”
Jewish lives don’t matte eh. |
Jesus wept. | |
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| #NoDramaJustStarmer on 12:19 - Jun 7 with 959 views | Darth_Koont |
I don't click on islamophobic links. | |
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| #NoDramaJustStarmer on 13:05 - Jun 7 with 878 views | GlasgowBlue |
| #NoDramaJustStarmer on 12:17 - Jun 7 by Herbivore |
That's some excellent spin. You can take the man out of the Tory Party but you can't take the Tory Party out of the man. |
As Bluebadger said to Darth and Banksy last week, and I paraphrase, you can’t be all over this board calling out racism in the US and U.K. and then make excuses or turn the other way when it’s coming from your side.
That is something you have done for a long time Herbie’s. It’s what separates you from the real anti racists on here like Badger and Steve M. [Post edited 7 Jun 2020 13:06]
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| #NoDramaJustStarmer on 13:10 - Jun 7 with 872 views | C_HealyIsAPleasure |
| #NoDramaJustStarmer on 21:58 - Jun 6 by WD19 |
It’s the quiet ineptitude of the Lib Dem’s I find most impressive.
In the current climate I would expect the corpse of jimmy saville to poll more than 10% as their leader.....but somehow they are doing worse than that. |
As far as the Lib Dem’s are concerned I think the political landscape has changed in recent years towards even more of a 2 party system. Voting for many has become as much about who they don’t want to vote for than who they do - and sides have become more and more entrenched thanks to social media and the like whereas before the LD’s had more scope to pickup disenfranchised voters from both of the main parties
It’s the same reason why anyone who points towards the number of votes Labour received under Corbyn as some kind of success completely misses the point |  |
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| #NoDramaJustStarmer on 13:20 - Jun 7 with 847 views | Darth_Koont |
| #NoDramaJustStarmer on 13:05 - Jun 7 by GlasgowBlue |
As Bluebadger said to Darth and Banksy last week, and I paraphrase, you can’t be all over this board calling out racism in the US and U.K. and then make excuses or turn the other way when it’s coming from your side.
That is something you have done for a long time Herbie’s. It’s what separates you from the real anti racists on here like Badger and Steve M. [Post edited 7 Jun 2020 13:06]
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Utter hypocritical bobbins.
When you're not excusing islamophobia and ethno-religious supremacists on the right, you're attacking genuine antiracists because they're "lefties". | |
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| #NoDramaJustStarmer on 13:20 - Jun 7 with 844 views | Herbivore |
| #NoDramaJustStarmer on 13:05 - Jun 7 by GlasgowBlue |
As Bluebadger said to Darth and Banksy last week, and I paraphrase, you can’t be all over this board calling out racism in the US and U.K. and then make excuses or turn the other way when it’s coming from your side.
That is something you have done for a long time Herbie’s. It’s what separates you from the real anti racists on here like Badger and Steve M. [Post edited 7 Jun 2020 13:06]
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Thankfully I don't rate or value your opinion. | |
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| #NoDramaJustStarmer on 13:34 - Jun 7 with 820 views | GlasgowBlue |
| #NoDramaJustStarmer on 13:20 - Jun 7 by Darth_Koont |
Utter hypocritical bobbins.
When you're not excusing islamophobia and ethno-religious supremacists on the right, you're attacking genuine antiracists because they're "lefties". |
You’re desperate to push this false narrative that I excuse Islamophobia DK but as it’s absolute bollox it isn’t going to work. I’ve Consistently attacked Islamophobia.
Yiubtried this yesterday and Sulla made Yiu look rather foolish.
Now I’m not doing this with you again today Koonters. I’ve just had a lovely 6 mile run along the canal, the weather is glorious and I have a hot tub waitingthat is a far more attractive proposition than arguing the toss with you on the internet.
Enjoy your afternoon rantings. 💋 💋 | |
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| #NoDramaJustStarmer on 13:36 - Jun 7 with 816 views | SpruceMoose |
A hot tub 
#AccidentalPartridge |  |
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"Imagine being a heterosexual white male in Britain at this moment. How bad is that. Everything you say is racist, everything you say is homophobic. The Woke community have really f****d this country." | | Poll: | Selectamod |
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| #NoDramaJustStarmer on 13:38 - Jun 7 with 810 views | Bluefish |
| #NoDramaJustStarmer on 13:20 - Jun 7 by Herbivore |
Thankfully I don't rate or value your opinion. |
Stick to your echo chamber and you one eyed views |  |
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| #NoDramaJustStarmer on 13:41 - Jun 7 with 802 views | Herbivore |
| #NoDramaJustStarmer on 13:38 - Jun 7 by Bluefish |
Stick to your echo chamber and you one eyed views |
You seem to be labouring under the misapprehension that I remotely care what you think or say, Blubbers. Again, I'm not going to take advice from an attention seeking troll. | |
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| #NoDramaJustStarmer on 13:47 - Jun 7 with 786 views | Darth_Koont |
| #NoDramaJustStarmer on 13:34 - Jun 7 by GlasgowBlue |
You’re desperate to push this false narrative that I excuse Islamophobia DK but as it’s absolute bollox it isn’t going to work. I’ve Consistently attacked Islamophobia.
Yiubtried this yesterday and Sulla made Yiu look rather foolish.
Now I’m not doing this with you again today Koonters. I’ve just had a lovely 6 mile run along the canal, the weather is glorious and I have a hot tub waitingthat is a far more attractive proposition than arguing the toss with you on the internet.
Enjoy your afternoon rantings. 💋 💋 |
I'm treating you the same way you treat anyone who doesn't agree with your narrative. But playing the smeary narrative game is easy. A case in point:
I don't believe you're an islamophobe, you're just unlucky to be always defending islamophobes and spreading their islamophobia. | |
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| #NoDramaJustStarmer on 13:48 - Jun 7 with 781 views | SpruceMoose |
| #NoDramaJustStarmer on 13:47 - Jun 7 by Darth_Koont |
I'm treating you the same way you treat anyone who doesn't agree with your narrative. But playing the smeary narrative game is easy. A case in point:
I don't believe you're an islamophobe, you're just unlucky to be always defending islamophobes and spreading their islamophobia. |
And voting for them and joining their party. You left that bit out. | |
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"Imagine being a heterosexual white male in Britain at this moment. How bad is that. Everything you say is racist, everything you say is homophobic. The Woke community have really f****d this country." | | Poll: | Selectamod |
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| #NoDramaJustStarmer on 13:50 - Jun 7 with 778 views | Darth_Koont |
| #NoDramaJustStarmer on 13:48 - Jun 7 by SpruceMoose |
And voting for them and joining their party. You left that bit out. |
That must have been another accident, surely? | |
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