| Cummings gone with immediate effect on 18:42 - Nov 13 with 1066 views | DanTheMan |
| Cummings gone with immediate effect on 18:19 - Nov 13 by C_HealyIsAPleasure |
Some people are going to be awfully confused when reporters continue to quote statements from government sources, as statements from government sources, as has happened with every government in recent memory... |
That's missing the point somewhat. The issue isn't that these sources exists, or that they are quoted as such, but they little more than Government messages are being fed through to selected members of the press as an "unnamed source" so they have to take no responsibility for their message.
It is different than it was before. |  |
|  |
| Cummings gone with immediate effect on 18:42 - Nov 13 with 1065 views | IpswichBoyBlue |
| Cummings gone with immediate effect on 18:39 - Nov 13 by Herbivore |
Trump gone, Cummings gone, get Lambert out pre-Christmas and maybe 2020 won't have been all bad after all. |
We should make Lambert Out pre-Christmas our priority now. We need a speaker, somebody to shout it from the rooftops. Any idea who? |  | | |
| Cummings gone with immediate effect on 18:46 - Nov 13 with 1055 views | gordon |
It's giving various people opportunity to try to exonerate Johnson for all his abject failings so far.
He has an 80-seat majority, he's always had the opportunity to run his operation (and the country) however he wants. He owns his failure, not Dominic Cummings:
|  | | |
| Cummings gone with immediate effect on 18:52 - Nov 13 with 1037 views | footers |
| Cummings gone with immediate effect on 18:46 - Nov 13 by gordon |
It's giving various people opportunity to try to exonerate Johnson for all his abject failings so far.
He has an 80-seat majority, he's always had the opportunity to run his operation (and the country) however he wants. He owns his failure, not Dominic Cummings:
|
Exactly this. He specifically chose Cummings to be his man. He gambled big time and now it's all fallen on its face. 'boris' needs to own his own mistakes, I'm afraid.
There's only so far being a political chancer relying on a eugenicist crank can take you. |  |
| |
| Cummings gone with immediate effect on 19:04 - Nov 13 with 981 views | C_HealyIsAPleasure |
| Cummings gone with immediate effect on 18:34 - Nov 13 by LankHenners |
Unlike you to be so pompous and condescending in response to a fairly obviously jokey comment. Oh well, you didn't know what you were talking about last time on this issue and I guess still don't. |
Christ, imagine writing that and calling someone else condescending |  |
| |
| Cummings gone with immediate effect on 19:04 - Nov 13 with 1012 views | BlueBadger |
| Cummings gone with immediate effect on 18:46 - Nov 13 by gordon |
It's giving various people opportunity to try to exonerate Johnson for all his abject failings so far.
He has an 80-seat majority, he's always had the opportunity to run his operation (and the country) however he wants. He owns his failure, not Dominic Cummings:
|
Arguably, Boris already HAS a government that fits his character, given that its incompetent, lazy, bigoted, corrupt and utterly unwilling to take any responsibility for its failings. [Post edited 14 Nov 2020 9:53]
|  |
| |
| Cummings gone with immediate effect on 19:06 - Nov 13 with 972 views | C_HealyIsAPleasure |
| Cummings gone with immediate effect on 18:42 - Nov 13 by DanTheMan |
That's missing the point somewhat. The issue isn't that these sources exists, or that they are quoted as such, but they little more than Government messages are being fed through to selected members of the press as an "unnamed source" so they have to take no responsibility for their message.
It is different than it was before. |
I don’t think it is, anonymous sources have existed for as long as I can remember and been reported as such
I don’t think it’s ideal but it isn’t unusual, and the accusation that goes with this is one of bias which clearly isn’t the case seeing as statements are reported as being from the government. It’s just a nonsense claim really | |
| |
| Cummings gone with immediate effect on 19:06 - Nov 13 with 994 views | LankHenners |
| Cummings gone with immediate effect on 19:04 - Nov 13 by C_HealyIsAPleasure |
Christ, imagine writing that and calling someone else condescending |
Doesn't count if someone else started it. |  |
| |
Login to get fewer ads
| Cummings gone with immediate effect on 19:10 - Nov 13 with 964 views | gordon |
| Cummings gone with immediate effect on 19:06 - Nov 13 by C_HealyIsAPleasure |
I don’t think it is, anonymous sources have existed for as long as I can remember and been reported as such
I don’t think it’s ideal but it isn’t unusual, and the accusation that goes with this is one of bias which clearly isn’t the case seeing as statements are reported as being from the government. It’s just a nonsense claim really |
| | | |
| Cummings gone with immediate effect on 19:15 - Nov 13 with 950 views | LankHenners |
| Cummings gone with immediate effect on 19:10 - Nov 13 by gordon |
|
Not fair to do that. CC’s not a random forum user, nor is Peter Oborne, nor are the multiple journalists and political commentators that have made the same point about the behaviour of some of the prominent lobby journalists. | |
| |
| Cummings gone with immediate effect on 19:29 - Nov 13 with 894 views | C_HealyIsAPleasure |
| Cummings gone with immediate effect on 19:10 - Nov 13 by gordon |
|
She may want to have a word with her employers then, seeing as the Cambridge Analytica allegations were reported by her own newspaper as being unfounded:
https://www.google.co.uk/amp/s/amp.theguardian.com/uk-news/2020/oct/07/cambridge
Of course, Vote Leave was found guilty of other breaches and the general comments in the first tweet are generally spot on. But that’s rather separate the point she’s trying to imply there | |
| |
| Cummings gone with immediate effect on 19:35 - Nov 13 with 891 views | gordon |
| Cummings gone with immediate effect on 19:29 - Nov 13 by C_HealyIsAPleasure |
She may want to have a word with her employers then, seeing as the Cambridge Analytica allegations were reported by her own newspaper as being unfounded:
https://www.google.co.uk/amp/s/amp.theguardian.com/uk-news/2020/oct/07/cambridge
Of course, Vote Leave was found guilty of other breaches and the general comments in the first tweet are generally spot on. But that’s rather separate the point she’s trying to imply there |
Think it's reasonable to question whether someone accused of subverting the course of democracy in a way that will negatively effect the lives of millions of people should be able to use the BBC's political editor as a vehicle to rebut such accusations prior to them being investigated. | | | |
| Cummings gone with immediate effect on 19:43 - Nov 13 with 846 views | C_HealyIsAPleasure |
| Cummings gone with immediate effect on 19:35 - Nov 13 by gordon |
Think it's reasonable to question whether someone accused of subverting the course of democracy in a way that will negatively effect the lives of millions of people should be able to use the BBC's political editor as a vehicle to rebut such accusations prior to them being investigated. |
Alternatively a reporter published someone’s response to allegations, as being a response from them about allegations. Which is something which happens in the press on pretty much a daily basis
It’s not like it was dressed up as being from anyone else or trying to make a defence on his behalf. And in this instance not even a government source, which seems to be what some people have an issue with even though comments attributed as such are clearly from the government
And those allegations were actually shown to be false, contrary to what Cadwaller has suggested. At least comments from a government source are reported as being from a government source accurately | |
| |
| Cummings gone with immediate effect on 20:20 - Nov 13 with 815 views | gordon |
| Cummings gone with immediate effect on 19:43 - Nov 13 by C_HealyIsAPleasure |
Alternatively a reporter published someone’s response to allegations, as being a response from them about allegations. Which is something which happens in the press on pretty much a daily basis
It’s not like it was dressed up as being from anyone else or trying to make a defence on his behalf. And in this instance not even a government source, which seems to be what some people have an issue with even though comments attributed as such are clearly from the government
And those allegations were actually shown to be false, contrary to what Cadwaller has suggested. At least comments from a government source are reported as being from a government source accurately |
Don't know the ins and outs, but Vote Leave was basically run by Cummings & was found to have broken electoral law.
It isn't appropriate for any journalist, let alone a national broadcaster, to without qualification give voice to a criminal operation in respect to that lawbreaking. | | | |
| Cummings gone with immediate effect on 20:37 - Nov 13 with 796 views | itfcjoe |
This whole thread is interesting, but it’s the scorpion and the frog
|  |
| |
| Cummings gone with immediate effect on 20:51 - Nov 13 with 765 views | gordon |
| Cummings gone with immediate effect on 20:37 - Nov 13 by itfcjoe |
This whole thread is interesting, but it’s the scorpion and the frog
|
“I’m told there is a blog coming. Spads [special advisers] are preparing about how to respond,” said one official.
“Dom is going to have to face up to the fact that after spending years writing millions of words in his blogs, he has achieved nothing in government,” said one ministerial adviser.
Hopefully the fun is just getting started. | | | |
| Cummings gone with immediate effect on 20:51 - Nov 13 with 761 views | rgp1 |
| Cummings gone with immediate effect on 17:30 - Nov 13 by LankHenners |
Kuenssburg and Peston going to have to find a new top-level source they can copy and paste defences of gov decision making from. |
Allegra Stratton, what parents in their right mind would name their daughter after a clapped out old British Leyland car? |  | | |
| Cummings gone with immediate effect on 21:00 - Nov 13 with 733 views | Melford |
| Cummings gone with immediate effect on 20:37 - Nov 13 by itfcjoe |
This whole thread is interesting, but it’s the scorpion and the frog
|
It's proper The Thick Of It stuff, wouldn't have minded being a fly on the wall at No. 10 today. |  |
| |
| Cummings gone with immediate effect on 21:06 - Nov 13 with 725 views | Herbivore |
| Cummings gone with immediate effect on 21:00 - Nov 13 by Melford |
It's proper The Thick Of It stuff, wouldn't have minded being a fly on the wall at No. 10 today. |
They're a bunch of private school, privileged bellends. Essentially they've never stopped being spoilt 12 year olds. I'd quite happily watch them all burn. |  |
| |
| Cummings gone with immediate effect on 21:12 - Nov 13 with 705 views | peterleeblue |
| Cummings gone with immediate effect on 21:06 - Nov 13 by Herbivore |
They're a bunch of private school, privileged bellends. Essentially they've never stopped being spoilt 12 year olds. I'd quite happily watch them all burn. |
a bit strong but......
#ididntvoteforthem
those that voted for "lets get Brexit done" deserve everything we are about to get. |  | | |
| Cummings gone with immediate effect on 21:12 - Nov 13 with 703 views | Dubtractor |
| Cummings gone with immediate effect on 21:06 - Nov 13 by Herbivore |
They're a bunch of private school, privileged bellends. Essentially they've never stopped being spoilt 12 year olds. I'd quite happily watch them all burn. |
I've got some matches if that helps? |  |
| |
| Cummings gone with immediate effect on 21:13 - Nov 13 with 701 views | footers |
| Cummings gone with immediate effect on 21:12 - Nov 13 by peterleeblue |
a bit strong but......
#ididntvoteforthem
those that voted for "lets get Brexit done" deserve everything we are about to get. |
If only people had warned them. | |
| |
| Cummings gone with immediate effect on 21:15 - Nov 13 with 699 views | footers |
| Cummings gone with immediate effect on 21:12 - Nov 13 by Dubtractor |
I've got some matches if that helps? |
You don't have any relevant choons for the sacking of a PM's top aide? Clearly you are not the afficianado you make out to be.
I am downgrading you from Cheggers to Dave Lee Travis. | |
| |
| Cummings gone with immediate effect on 21:17 - Nov 13 with 693 views | Dubtractor |
| Cummings gone with immediate effect on 21:15 - Nov 13 by footers |
You don't have any relevant choons for the sacking of a PM's top aide? Clearly you are not the afficianado you make out to be.
I am downgrading you from Cheggers to Dave Lee Travis. |
Quite a niche tune theme to be fair.
Didn't DLT get some grief from project yewtree?
Can I be Tony "real like Partridge" Blackburn instead? | |
| |
| Cummings gone with immediate effect on 21:21 - Nov 13 with 690 views | footers |
| Cummings gone with immediate effect on 21:17 - Nov 13 by Dubtractor |
Quite a niche tune theme to be fair.
Didn't DLT get some grief from project yewtree?
Can I be Tony "real like Partridge" Blackburn instead? |
The Hairy Cornflake did indeed get his collar felt.
But that Eamonn Forde tw@tter review of his Blackburn's book is hilarious. If anyone knows how to show the whole thread instead of individual posts, it'd be appreciated! | |
| |
| |
By continuing to use the site, you agree to our use of cookies and to abide by our Terms and Conditions.
