| There goes Debenhams then.... 10:58 - Dec 1 with 5391 views | The_Major |
That's going to leave some very large empty buildings. That one on the Cornhill for a start off is going to be like an open sore. |  | | |  |
| There goes Debenhams then.... on 12:45 - Dec 1 with 1250 views | wkj |
| There goes Debenhams then.... on 12:39 - Dec 1 by SpruceMoose |
There would be a really nice opportunity to make a lovely entrance way to the Cornhill if you knocked that down, did away with the bingo hall too, and built more attractive and appropriate units along a pedestrianised Lloyd's Avenue.
Spruce for Mayor. |
 I'll be your PCO |  |
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| There goes Debenhams then.... on 12:48 - Dec 1 with 1243 views | SpruceMoose |
| There goes Debenhams then.... on 12:45 - Dec 1 by wkj |
I'll be your PCO |
I'm not sure the locals will like a couple of Americans coming in to shake things up. |  |
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| There goes Debenhams then.... on 12:48 - Dec 1 with 1242 views | wkj |
| There goes Debenhams then.... on 12:48 - Dec 1 by SpruceMoose |
I'm not sure the locals will like a couple of Americans coming in to shake things up. |
Worked well for Liverpool | |
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| There goes Debenhams then.... on 12:51 - Dec 1 with 1237 views | SpruceMoose |
| There goes Debenhams then.... on 12:48 - Dec 1 by wkj |
Worked well for Liverpool |
Well now that Footers is world famous with a history of fundraising we can put him in charge of financing this scam... er I mean... scheme. First things first, we are going to need some pork for our union boys. | |
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| There goes Debenhams then.... on 12:53 - Dec 1 with 1233 views | Swansea_Blue |
| There goes Debenhams then.... on 12:31 - Dec 1 by SpruceMoose |
Which other successful retail shops are out there that require massive retail space over three floors? The one in Ipswich is going to sit empty for years. May as well knock it down and out something more appropriate there. |
John Lewis is about the only one I can think of. Can't see them coming to scummy Swansea though. |  |
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| There goes Debenhams then.... on 12:53 - Dec 1 with 1232 views | solemio |
| There goes Debenhams then.... on 12:39 - Dec 1 by SpruceMoose |
There would be a really nice opportunity to make a lovely entrance way to the Cornhill if you knocked that down, did away with the bingo hall too, and built more attractive and appropriate units along a pedestrianised Lloyd's Avenue.
Spruce for Mayor. |
Spruce for Mare? What are you, a horse or a moose? |  | | |
| There goes Debenhams then.... on 12:55 - Dec 1 with 1227 views | wkj |
| There goes Debenhams then.... on 12:53 - Dec 1 by Swansea_Blue |
John Lewis is about the only one I can think of. Can't see them coming to scummy Swansea though. |
John Lewis has a healthy online operation, however, all is not peachy there either.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-54798282 | |
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| There goes Debenhams then.... on 12:55 - Dec 1 with 1229 views | eireblue |
| There goes Debenhams then.... on 12:32 - Dec 1 by Dubtractor |
I don't consider myself as old, but easily remember all of that.
Sh1t. I'm old aren't I? |
10 REPEAT
20 Print “I am not that old”.
30 Smell for Wee
40 UNTIL Smell for Wee = true
50 Print “Ha ha you are old and smell of wee”
60 Goto 50. |  | | |
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| There goes Debenhams then.... on 13:00 - Dec 1 with 1220 views | Bluespeed225 |
| There goes Debenhams then.... on 11:43 - Dec 1 by The_Major |
I hate to go all jumpers for goalposts, but it's another part of my going down the town when growing up that's now gone.
See also:
BHS in Tavern Street, when for some reason they had cheese on sale by the front door which knocked you off your feet when you came in
Going up to the Commodore 64s and Vic 20s on display in John Menzies and typing something like
10 PRINT "You all smell of wee"
20 GOTO 10
RUN
and then legging it out the door.
Getting completely lost in the Carr Street Co-op which seemed to go on for miles.
Wondering why there was two branches of Boots about 200 yards apart, and then traipsing up that lane from the back of the current one to get to Tower Ramparts pre-shopping centre.
And then, Woolworths. Seemed massive, escalator downstairs to get to the toy department. Nipping out the side door by the delivery bay on Cox Lane.
Join us next week for more Ipswich nostalgia when we'll be asking has ANYONE ever seen that fountain by the spiral car park actually work? |
It had a magnificent Deco entrance on Lloyds Avenue when it was Footmans, smell of coffee as you entered. Think it was demolished in 78’, cranes visible during Cup celebrations. As you say, a Saturday in Town was an event as a kid/teen. Shops, cafes, pubs. Even as a young’un I remember clean teas with Mum and Aunties in Corders. Saw Alf Ramsey in Woolies, but was probably more interested in looking at the big fish behind the counter, now found in Viking Aquatics! | | | |
| There goes Debenhams then.... on 13:10 - Dec 1 with 1208 views | The_Major |
Interesting trivia point re Lloyds Avenue bingo Hall mentioned above. Those of us over 40 will remember it as the Odeon, and I think it's actually listed.
If you look round the back of that building, next to the back door of Debenhams, you'll see it's all grey, apart from a solitary white brick about two thirds up.
Apparently that marks the spot that some unfortunate brickie tumbled to their death during construction circa 1935. | | | |
| There goes Debenhams then.... on 13:11 - Dec 1 with 1204 views | SpruceMoose |
| There goes Debenhams then.... on 13:10 - Dec 1 by The_Major |
Interesting trivia point re Lloyds Avenue bingo Hall mentioned above. Those of us over 40 will remember it as the Odeon, and I think it's actually listed.
If you look round the back of that building, next to the back door of Debenhams, you'll see it's all grey, apart from a solitary white brick about two thirds up.
Apparently that marks the spot that some unfortunate brickie tumbled to their death during construction circa 1935. |
I've heard that story before and have spotted the brick in question.
OK, we can keep the building but all the bingo signage must go. | |
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| There goes Debenhams then.... on 13:15 - Dec 1 with 1183 views | TractorWood |
| There goes Debenhams then.... on 11:43 - Dec 1 by The_Major |
I hate to go all jumpers for goalposts, but it's another part of my going down the town when growing up that's now gone.
See also:
BHS in Tavern Street, when for some reason they had cheese on sale by the front door which knocked you off your feet when you came in
Going up to the Commodore 64s and Vic 20s on display in John Menzies and typing something like
10 PRINT "You all smell of wee"
20 GOTO 10
RUN
and then legging it out the door.
Getting completely lost in the Carr Street Co-op which seemed to go on for miles.
Wondering why there was two branches of Boots about 200 yards apart, and then traipsing up that lane from the back of the current one to get to Tower Ramparts pre-shopping centre.
And then, Woolworths. Seemed massive, escalator downstairs to get to the toy department. Nipping out the side door by the delivery bay on Cox Lane.
Join us next week for more Ipswich nostalgia when we'll be asking has ANYONE ever seen that fountain by the spiral car park actually work? |
The basketball court and football goal in JJB.
Drew people from miles around. Was genuinely awesome going there when I was a youngun. |  |
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| There goes Debenhams then.... on 13:37 - Dec 1 with 1163 views | Funge |
| There goes Debenhams then.... on 12:39 - Dec 1 by SpruceMoose |
There would be a really nice opportunity to make a lovely entrance way to the Cornhill if you knocked that down, did away with the bingo hall too, and built more attractive and appropriate units along a pedestrianised Lloyd's Avenue.
Spruce for Mayor. |
I totally agree.
Lloyds Avenue is wack - some fairly pleasant buildings on the east side, all starved of sunlight by the crap Debenhams building and the bingo hall. |  | | |
| There goes Debenhams then.... on 14:03 - Dec 1 with 1148 views | itfcjoe |
Massive blow for Ipswich town centre, not unsurprising but going to leave a big hole there in the likely event that they can't find another department store to go in there
The battle between Ipswich Borough Council and Suffolk County Council has done nothing but kill the town centre whilst everything is now on the outskirts. Sad. |  |
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| There goes Debenhams then.... on 14:09 - Dec 1 with 1139 views | Dubtractor |
| There goes Debenhams then.... on 14:03 - Dec 1 by itfcjoe |
Massive blow for Ipswich town centre, not unsurprising but going to leave a big hole there in the likely event that they can't find another department store to go in there
The battle between Ipswich Borough Council and Suffolk County Council has done nothing but kill the town centre whilst everything is now on the outskirts. Sad. |
How is that about IBC vs SCC?
More about East Suffolk Council supporting retain parks in places like Martlesham. |  |
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| There goes Debenhams then.... on 14:14 - Dec 1 with 1133 views | itfcjoe |
| There goes Debenhams then.... on 14:09 - Dec 1 by Dubtractor |
How is that about IBC vs SCC?
More about East Suffolk Council supporting retain parks in places like Martlesham. |
Whoever it is, it seems that IBC are just totally stitched up by those around it - whether it be SCC, East Suffolk or whoever - there needs to be an overarching County Plan.
It happens in Planning - Everywhere is happy to build on the boundaries of Ipswich (Babergh or Suffolk Coastal) because it is council tax but the main service burden still falls onto Ipswich. | |
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| There goes Debenhams then.... on 14:23 - Dec 1 with 1120 views | Dubtractor |
| There goes Debenhams then.... on 14:14 - Dec 1 by itfcjoe |
Whoever it is, it seems that IBC are just totally stitched up by those around it - whether it be SCC, East Suffolk or whoever - there needs to be an overarching County Plan.
It happens in Planning - Everywhere is happy to build on the boundaries of Ipswich (Babergh or Suffolk Coastal) because it is council tax but the main service burden still falls onto Ipswich. |
Agree completely on the second point.
The more rural authorities get their development done without upsetting their constituents. | |
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| There goes Debenhams then.... on 14:35 - Dec 1 with 1105 views | SpruceMoose |
| There goes Debenhams then.... on 14:14 - Dec 1 by itfcjoe |
Whoever it is, it seems that IBC are just totally stitched up by those around it - whether it be SCC, East Suffolk or whoever - there needs to be an overarching County Plan.
It happens in Planning - Everywhere is happy to build on the boundaries of Ipswich (Babergh or Suffolk Coastal) because it is council tax but the main service burden still falls onto Ipswich. |
Agreed. The thought process seems to be as follows:
Hmm what's this? A new housing development on the outskirts of Ipswich? No schools, shops or community facilities you say? Oh well, Ipswich proper can cover that!
I've always thought that when Pinewood and Thorington Park were developed they should have had their own schools. IBC residents sure do seem to fund a lot of facilities for out of town residents and seem to receive very little in the way of finding or thanks in return. [Post edited 1 Dec 2020 14:37]
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| There goes Debenhams then.... on 14:52 - Dec 1 with 1084 views | woiii |
| There goes Debenhams then.... on 11:11 - Dec 1 by wkj |
The way towns are growing now, the traditional high-street is probably on the way out. I can't pretend that I don't prefer to convenience of shopping areas like Ravenswood on the outskirts of towns. Getting stuck in town centre traffic has got to be one of the most unnecessary and hated consequences of high street shopping. |
and town center car parks charge some ridiculous amounts of money... £3 an hour in bloody Colchester when I went there recently |  | | |
| There goes Debenhams then.... on 16:00 - Dec 1 with 1058 views | The_Major |
Was only about thirty years ago of course that there was a couple of plans for a pair of large shopping malls in the town as well.
Crowngates was mooted when they knocked the William Pretty factory down and would have occupied the Tower Ramparts/Lloyds Avenue/Westgate Street/High Street site, incorporating M & S and Debenhams, and having a massive entrance where Providence Street is now.
And then there was the Mint Quarter. Which would have been on the Tacket Street and Cox Lane car parks, presumably razing Woolworths to the ground (and let's face it, that building is one hell of an eyesore these days), but I think fell flat on it's face at the planning stage.
I can't see any hope for anything in the town like that now. You could probably get away with something half the size of Bluewater near the bypass somewhere, but not in the town any more. | | | |
| There goes Debenhams then.... on 18:04 - Dec 1 with 1024 views | BloomBlue |
| There goes Debenhams then.... on 11:17 - Dec 1 by Coastalblue |
But, but, but
The pub |
Pubs will be the next. Lots of people like shopping in shops but more people shop online. You can get beer online delivered a lot cheaper and with the rents on pub buildings pubs will the next to disappear. We will become a people who don't go outside |  | | |
| There goes Debenhams then.... on 18:10 - Dec 1 with 1012 views | wkj |
| There goes Debenhams then.... on 18:04 - Dec 1 by BloomBlue |
Pubs will be the next. Lots of people like shopping in shops but more people shop online. You can get beer online delivered a lot cheaper and with the rents on pub buildings pubs will the next to disappear. We will become a people who don't go outside |
Obsessed with buts? | |
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| There goes Debenhams then.... on 18:13 - Dec 1 with 1009 views | SpruceMoose |
| There goes Debenhams then.... on 18:04 - Dec 1 by BloomBlue |
Pubs will be the next. Lots of people like shopping in shops but more people shop online. You can get beer online delivered a lot cheaper and with the rents on pub buildings pubs will the next to disappear. We will become a people who don't go outside |
I'm not so sure. People don't go to Debenhams to socialise and people don't always want a load of other people in their house.
Or maybe that's just me! | |
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