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"Well we made a commitment, not knowing...." 17:38 - Dec 20 with 1816 viewsnoggin

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"Well we made a commitment, not knowing...." on 19:44 - Dec 20 with 1683 viewsJ2BLUE

More like not listening. They knew. NHS leaders, medical advisors, science advisors, official SAGE, independent unofficial SAGE and about 1000 other individuals and institutions of note have been pointing and screaming about the big wave heading towards us while Boris has been burying his head in the sand and hoping for the best.

Truly impaired.
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"Well we made a commitment, not knowing...." on 19:47 - Dec 20 with 1678 viewssyntaxerror

"Well we made a commitment, not knowing...." on 19:44 - Dec 20 by J2BLUE

More like not listening. They knew. NHS leaders, medical advisors, science advisors, official SAGE, independent unofficial SAGE and about 1000 other individuals and institutions of note have been pointing and screaming about the big wave heading towards us while Boris has been burying his head in the sand and hoping for the best.


You could be talking about Brexit there too, just use the word experts instead of all the medical experts you mentioned.
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"Well we made a commitment, not knowing...." on 19:48 - Dec 20 with 1665 viewsjaykay

"Well we made a commitment, not knowing...." on 19:47 - Dec 20 by syntaxerror

You could be talking about Brexit there too, just use the word experts instead of all the medical experts you mentioned.
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and the general public who voted tory

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"Well we made a commitment, not knowing...." on 20:32 - Dec 20 with 1599 viewsfactual_blue

"Well we made a commitment, not knowing...." on 19:47 - Dec 20 by syntaxerror

You could be talking about Brexit there too, just use the word experts instead of all the medical experts you mentioned.
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Spoiler alert:

It's actually how the entire boris period of government will pan out.

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"Well we made a commitment, not knowing...." on 20:45 - Dec 20 with 1579 viewspeterleeblue

"Well we made a commitment, not knowing...." on 19:48 - Dec 20 by jaykay

and the general public who voted tory


Its still actually staggers me that anyone and I mean anyone can actually do this!!
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"Well we made a commitment, not knowing...." on 21:50 - Dec 20 with 1511 viewsTJS

It still staggers me how the Labour Party could offer an unelectable alternative at two consecutive elections.
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"Well we made a commitment, not knowing...." on 22:14 - Dec 20 with 1474 viewsjaykay

"Well we made a commitment, not knowing...." on 21:50 - Dec 20 by TJS

It still staggers me how the Labour Party could offer an unelectable alternative at two consecutive elections.


don't worry in about 4 years time the smears will be in full force for starmer

forensic experts say footers and spruces fingerprints were not found at the scene after the weekends rows

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"Well we made a commitment, not knowing...." on 22:32 - Dec 20 with 1443 viewsBABLUE

"Well we made a commitment, not knowing...." on 21:50 - Dec 20 by TJS

It still staggers me how the Labour Party could offer an unelectable alternative at two consecutive elections.


Yes of course, it’s all Labours fault that people like you voted Tory and got this total shower of incompetent sociopaths.

It’s your fault.

You have the government that you deserve.
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"Well we made a commitment, not knowing...." on 22:54 - Dec 20 with 1412 viewsBlueBadger

"Well we made a commitment, not knowing...." on 22:32 - Dec 20 by BABLUE

Yes of course, it’s all Labours fault that people like you voted Tory and got this total shower of incompetent sociopaths.

It’s your fault.

You have the government that you deserve.


Well, a halfway competent opposition might have run them a TAD closer.

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"Well we made a commitment, not knowing...." on 23:26 - Dec 20 with 1353 viewsDarth_Koont

"Well we made a commitment, not knowing...." on 22:54 - Dec 20 by BlueBadger

Well, a halfway competent opposition might have run them a TAD closer.


You sniped from the sidelines for 5 years and 2 elections. Own it.

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"Well we made a commitment, not knowing...." on 23:31 - Dec 20 with 1329 viewsmonytowbray

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"Well we made a commitment, not knowing...." on 23:41 - Dec 20 with 1308 viewsmonytowbray

"Well we made a commitment, not knowing...." on 22:32 - Dec 20 by BABLUE

Yes of course, it’s all Labours fault that people like you voted Tory and got this total shower of incompetent sociopaths.

It’s your fault.

You have the government that you deserve.


The only system we are allowed is trickle down economics, both parties argue if we should turn the tap almost all the way off whilst the other wants to have it at least dripping.

Yay, democracy.

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"Well we made a commitment, not knowing...." on 23:43 - Dec 20 with 1295 viewsrgp1

It will be welcome to bankrupt Britain at this rate! As a well known virologist said on radio a while back that a bankrupt economy cannot afford a health service, that's a medicine man saying this and not a politician!
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"Well we made a commitment, not knowing...." on 07:17 - Dec 21 with 1115 viewsBlueBadger

"Well we made a commitment, not knowing...." on 23:43 - Dec 20 by rgp1

It will be welcome to bankrupt Britain at this rate! As a well known virologist said on radio a while back that a bankrupt economy cannot afford a health service, that's a medicine man saying this and not a politician!


I bet he also went on to point out that the countries who've bounced back the best economically(Australia and New Zealand, for example) have been those who locked down hardest and earliest because you cannot live anything resembling a normal life if you have an out-of-control epidemic. What we've done, has been the worst of all worlds - it's been death to anyone who's not a supermarket AND failed to control outbreaks in any meaningful manner and has resorted in escalating-yet-ineffective 'control' measures.

The notion that you can control a pandemic or control economic harm is a false one - if you want to protect the economy, you have to control the virus.

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"Well we made a commitment, not knowing...." on 07:39 - Dec 21 with 1091 viewsTractorWood

"Well we made a commitment, not knowing...." on 07:17 - Dec 21 by BlueBadger

I bet he also went on to point out that the countries who've bounced back the best economically(Australia and New Zealand, for example) have been those who locked down hardest and earliest because you cannot live anything resembling a normal life if you have an out-of-control epidemic. What we've done, has been the worst of all worlds - it's been death to anyone who's not a supermarket AND failed to control outbreaks in any meaningful manner and has resorted in escalating-yet-ineffective 'control' measures.

The notion that you can control a pandemic or control economic harm is a false one - if you want to protect the economy, you have to control the virus.


Australia and New Zealand have low population densities, young demographics and are at the ends of the earth geographically. It's easy to shut your borders when the nearest land mass is 7 hours by plane.

More people live in central London than NZ. Australia is the size of Europe with the population of London, East Anglia and the South East.

It's valid to compare their techniques but to say 'we should have done an Australia' is not even remotely feasible.

I know that was then, but it could be again..
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"Well we made a commitment, not knowing...." on 08:16 - Dec 21 with 1053 viewsDanTheMan

"Well we made a commitment, not knowing...." on 07:39 - Dec 21 by TractorWood

Australia and New Zealand have low population densities, young demographics and are at the ends of the earth geographically. It's easy to shut your borders when the nearest land mass is 7 hours by plane.

More people live in central London than NZ. Australia is the size of Europe with the population of London, East Anglia and the South East.

It's valid to compare their techniques but to say 'we should have done an Australia' is not even remotely feasible.


The place we probably should be modelling ourselves on is Japan.

Aging population, island, high population density. They appear to have handled it much better, looking at the raw numbers.

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