| I cant believe i'm reading people suggest that isnt PL's fault tonight 22:05 - Jan 26 with 4153 views | textbackup |
we played for 50mins with no striker. we have some tidy CM's, so of course they can keep it between themselves, but with no help from the management team how were we ever going to score.... or even create a chance?
if the bar is that low that all we want to see is the midfield pass it between themselves we should just support the training sessions.
watching that was soul destroying sht, and probably keeps that cnt above water for a few more days
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| I cant believe i'm reading people suggest that isnt PL's fault tonight on 22:10 - Jan 26 with 4073 views | N2_Blue |
completely agree. I don't get it.
Oh Jackson got sent off, that's not Lambert's fault...well what about the preceding 20 games. We are where we are not based on one game where we had 10 men...but because Lambert is a fraud of a manager and utterly clueless. |  |
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| I cant believe i'm reading people suggest that isnt PL's fault tonight on 22:13 - Jan 26 with 4026 views | textbackup |
| I cant believe i'm reading people suggest that isnt PL's fault tonight on 22:10 - Jan 26 by N2_Blue |
completely agree. I don't get it.
Oh Jackson got sent off, that's not Lambert's fault...well what about the preceding 20 games. We are where we are not based on one game where we had 10 men...but because Lambert is a fraud of a manager and utterly clueless. |
I don't want to invent things to hit PL with, but KJ has been left out of squads the last couple of weeks, with no comms from the management team, my guess would be he's gone out there tonight full of rage and anger..... he doesn't seem to have a footalling brain anyway, and his seen red.
that does fall at the managers feet.
I slated MM, but I don't ever recall a player being so ill-disciplined 9mins into a game | |
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| I cant believe i'm reading people suggest that isnt PL's fault tonight on 22:36 - Jan 26 with 3927 views | JammyDodgerrr |
We were better than them in the first half, the formation was working and we were controlling it. There was no need to bring someone on - better to do it later after some tired legs. I would've swapped Nolan for Drinan at half time instead of waiting the extra 10. We were better than them tonight and genuinely unlucky. |  |
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| I cant believe i'm reading people suggest that isnt PL's fault tonight on 22:39 - Jan 26 with 3903 views | textbackup |
| I cant believe i'm reading people suggest that isnt PL's fault tonight on 22:36 - Jan 26 by JammyDodgerrr |
We were better than them in the first half, the formation was working and we were controlling it. There was no need to bring someone on - better to do it later after some tired legs. I would've swapped Nolan for Drinan at half time instead of waiting the extra 10. We were better than them tonight and genuinely unlucky. |
we could have controlled it for 90mins, but with no chances to score whats the point?
to confirm, you are happy to watch your team, at home, play with no forwards? just a bit of passing around in midfield is suffice? | |
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| I cant believe i'm reading people suggest that isnt PL's fault tonight on 22:39 - Jan 26 with 3888 views | Herbivore |
| I cant believe i'm reading people suggest that isnt PL's fault tonight on 22:36 - Jan 26 by JammyDodgerrr |
We were better than them in the first half, the formation was working and we were controlling it. There was no need to bring someone on - better to do it later after some tired legs. I would've swapped Nolan for Drinan at half time instead of waiting the extra 10. We were better than them tonight and genuinely unlucky. |
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| I cant believe i'm reading people suggest that isnt PL's fault tonight on 22:45 - Jan 26 with 3838 views | MrTown |
I think in isolation it was a spirited display with 10 men.
But it’s far past that now - he’s been here over 2 years, he doesn’t need to be judged of 1 game tonight, we’ve seen enough evidence.
I think Lambert will be here until the end of the season, and with Lambert in charge, this season is over. |  |
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| I cant believe i'm reading people suggest that isnt PL's fault tonight on 22:46 - Jan 26 with 3817 views | Parky |
The bar is unbelievably low, it’s embarrassing.
Genuinely seeing some of our fans defending this sh!t because the “players gave everything” and “we were still in the game”.
35 wins out of 106 games under Paul Lambert. Staggering. |  | | |
| I cant believe i'm reading people suggest that isnt PL's fault tonight on 22:49 - Jan 26 with 3793 views | textbackup |
| I cant believe i'm reading people suggest that isnt PL's fault tonight on 22:45 - Jan 26 by MrTown |
I think in isolation it was a spirited display with 10 men.
But it’s far past that now - he’s been here over 2 years, he doesn’t need to be judged of 1 game tonight, we’ve seen enough evidence.
I think Lambert will be here until the end of the season, and with Lambert in charge, this season is over. |
I don't even see what was so spirited if im honest. I don't recall seeing anyone running through brickwalls. I saw defenders heading he ball away (bare min) midfielders passing (bar min) and no forwards to mention.
sunderland didn't need to do anything once they'd scored. just sit, watch us pass, and have 2/3 players at the back just watching bored. | |
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| I cant believe i'm reading people suggest that isnt PL's fault tonight on 23:09 - Jan 26 with 3707 views | JDB23 |
This is actually probably the worst result we could have got, a loss but with some sort of excuse for Lambert to use as to why.
This club man, can't even lose properly. | | | |
| I cant believe i'm reading people suggest that isnt PL's fault tonight on 23:42 - Jan 26 with 3640 views | chrismakin |
| I cant believe i'm reading people suggest that isnt PL's fault tonight on 22:13 - Jan 26 by textbackup |
I don't want to invent things to hit PL with, but KJ has been left out of squads the last couple of weeks, with no comms from the management team, my guess would be he's gone out there tonight full of rage and anger..... he doesn't seem to have a footalling brain anyway, and his seen red.
that does fall at the managers feet.
I slated MM, but I don't ever recall a player being so ill-disciplined 9mins into a game |
I was shot down for saying this earlier, He was dropped from the 18 without any knowledge until 1pm that day only a couple games ago, he's gone out there tonight and even Keith Andrews said at halftime, was he trying to put a stamp on the game, which would make alot of sense if Lambert has been all " Get out there and show me why I should select you etc etc" |  |
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| I cant believe i'm reading people suggest that isnt PL's fault tonight on 23:45 - Jan 26 with 3622 views | wkj |
Lambert had an excuse tonight, and this is his least culpable loss all season. However, yes, he is still an utter wang and failed. |  |
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| I cant believe i'm reading people suggest that isnt PL's fault tonight on 23:45 - Jan 26 with 3624 views | textbackup |
| I cant believe i'm reading people suggest that isnt PL's fault tonight on 23:42 - Jan 26 by chrismakin |
I was shot down for saying this earlier, He was dropped from the 18 without any knowledge until 1pm that day only a couple games ago, he's gone out there tonight and even Keith Andrews said at halftime, was he trying to put a stamp on the game, which would make alot of sense if Lambert has been all " Get out there and show me why I should select you etc etc" |
I bet he didn't even say that, put him in and that was it.
a proper manager would have called him in his office during the day, gave him a real heart to heart, made him feel ten foot tall. considering we have nothing upfront we really needed Jackson there for the next few weeks, but as it stands, lambert wouldn't use his dozzy head that well | |
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| I cant believe i'm reading people suggest that isnt PL's fault tonight on 00:08 - Jan 27 with 3580 views | MrTown |
| I cant believe i'm reading people suggest that isnt PL's fault tonight on 22:49 - Jan 26 by textbackup |
I don't even see what was so spirited if im honest. I don't recall seeing anyone running through brickwalls. I saw defenders heading he ball away (bare min) midfielders passing (bar min) and no forwards to mention.
sunderland didn't need to do anything once they'd scored. just sit, watch us pass, and have 2/3 players at the back just watching bored. |
Going down to 10 after 10 minutes is a really uphill task, to do it against a side who haven’t lost any away game all season, only conceded 4 on the road all season, was always going to be tough to do anything other than hang on in there.
And we did that. We defended well until the goal, came about from both CB being drawn out wide.
We worked hard, we tried to look after the ball, and when Drinan came on, there was a hard working outlet theres, Luke Thomas scores his moment, you walk away thinking that’s a really good point.
For all the dross we have seen under Lambert, this one was down the list for me. | |
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| I cant believe i'm reading people suggest that isnt PL's fault tonight on 01:32 - Jan 27 with 3514 views | chrismakin |
| I cant believe i'm reading people suggest that isnt PL's fault tonight on 00:08 - Jan 27 by MrTown |
Going down to 10 after 10 minutes is a really uphill task, to do it against a side who haven’t lost any away game all season, only conceded 4 on the road all season, was always going to be tough to do anything other than hang on in there.
And we did that. We defended well until the goal, came about from both CB being drawn out wide.
We worked hard, we tried to look after the ball, and when Drinan came on, there was a hard working outlet theres, Luke Thomas scores his moment, you walk away thinking that’s a really good point.
For all the dross we have seen under Lambert, this one was down the list for me. |
But then, if Sunderland had scored there chances, it could have been worse,
Our defenders weren't even drawn out, they just did their usual walkabouts, It's happened so often I can't believe they are still doing it, Hold your position, end of the day if something happens at left back, blame the fullback, don't run over and leave your man, the fact Andre was closest to Wyke - Wyke, Sunderlands top goal scorer being marked by Dozzell, it's a shambles which you can't blame the red card for.
Yes going down to 10 men hurts, especially after 10 minutes, but the first thing you do is give your players a target, the fact Lambert was hoping to get to HT at 0-0 shows a complete lack of winning mentality it's pathetic quite frankly. So you do down to 10, so what it's 0-0, shuffle about a bit but at least give Sunderland something to think about. | |
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| I cant believe i'm reading people suggest that isnt PL's fault tonight on 07:54 - Jan 27 with 3315 views | Ipswich1984 |
| I cant believe i'm reading people suggest that isnt PL's fault tonight on 22:39 - Jan 26 by textbackup |
we could have controlled it for 90mins, but with no chances to score whats the point?
to confirm, you are happy to watch your team, at home, play with no forwards? just a bit of passing around in midfield is suffice? |
Remember the days when we would fight and attack with 10 men, the game against Sheffield Utd springs to mind.
Cant remember the last time we saw that level of fight from the current squad and I think that comes back to how teams are managed. Dont think the players believe they can do it and that I think is down to the management team. |  |
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| I cant believe i'm reading people suggest that isnt PL's fault tonight on 08:24 - Jan 27 with 3224 views | IpswichKnight |
| I cant believe i'm reading people suggest that isnt PL's fault tonight on 07:54 - Jan 27 by Ipswich1984 |
Remember the days when we would fight and attack with 10 men, the game against Sheffield Utd springs to mind.
Cant remember the last time we saw that level of fight from the current squad and I think that comes back to how teams are managed. Dont think the players believe they can do it and that I think is down to the management team. |
A more astute manager would have changed it to something like 4-4-1, still take advantage of Edwards and Thomas but also gives us a focal point. As it was the Sunderland keeper could have watched Netflix all night he had so little to do. We should probably give opposition keepers recommendations do they are not bored when they play us. | | | |
| I cant believe i'm reading people suggest that isnt PL's fault tonight on 08:29 - Jan 27 with 3208 views | chrismakin |
| I cant believe i'm reading people suggest that isnt PL's fault tonight on 08:24 - Jan 27 by IpswichKnight |
A more astute manager would have changed it to something like 4-4-1, still take advantage of Edwards and Thomas but also gives us a focal point. As it was the Sunderland keeper could have watched Netflix all night he had so little to do. We should probably give opposition keepers recommendations do they are not bored when they play us. |
This is what I don't understand
We saw within 10 minutes Jackson being sent off that with a bit of pressure Sunderland gave the ball away in their own half, that's where we needed someone up top. it's so simple | |
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| I cant believe i'm reading people suggest that isnt PL's fault tonight on 08:33 - Jan 27 with 3192 views | Herbivore |
| I cant believe i'm reading people suggest that isnt PL's fault tonight on 08:29 - Jan 27 by chrismakin |
This is what I don't understand
We saw within 10 minutes Jackson being sent off that with a bit of pressure Sunderland gave the ball away in their own half, that's where we needed someone up top. it's so simple |
He was quite happy to play for a 0-0 at that point. With 10 men if your sole intention is to defend and not have any ambition to score that's not all that hard to achieve, especially against a bang average Sunderland side that don't really create or score much. It's all about self preservation, a 0-0 draw playing with 10 men can be sold as a creditable result to build on, but it shows absolutely zero ambition. | |
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| I cant believe i'm reading people suggest that isnt PL's fault tonight on 08:41 - Jan 27 with 3175 views | IpswichKnight |
| I cant believe i'm reading people suggest that isnt PL's fault tonight on 08:33 - Jan 27 by Herbivore |
He was quite happy to play for a 0-0 at that point. With 10 men if your sole intention is to defend and not have any ambition to score that's not all that hard to achieve, especially against a bang average Sunderland side that don't really create or score much. It's all about self preservation, a 0-0 draw playing with 10 men can be sold as a creditable result to build on, but it shows absolutely zero ambition. |
Exactly, when Pablo got sent off in that Sheff Utd game first thing that happened was Magilton puffed out his chest and took control of the game and went we don’t need 11 to win this game. Who in this current team is going to do that? | | | |
| I cant believe i'm reading people suggest that isnt PL's fault tonight on 09:21 - Jan 27 with 3097 views | JammyDodgerrr |
| I cant believe i'm reading people suggest that isnt PL's fault tonight on 22:39 - Jan 26 by textbackup |
we could have controlled it for 90mins, but with no chances to score whats the point?
to confirm, you are happy to watch your team, at home, play with no forwards? just a bit of passing around in midfield is suffice? |
I literally put that i would've brought Drinan on at half time. I obviously don't want to play with no forwards for 90 minutes. But we had chances in the first half. If we had brought Drinan on after 10 we would've been so exposed in midfield and overrun as our two cms would've been chasing shadows. FWIW, the plan was working until Ward forgot how to use his legs, and Wolf and McGuiness both went out to the same man for no reason. | |
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| I cant believe i'm reading people suggest that isnt PL's fault tonight on 09:27 - Jan 27 with 3087 views | Swansea_Blue |
I think lambert did the right thing. The priority immediately after the sending off was to stay organised and keep Sunderland out. It's not an unusual way to deal with going down to 10 men. Keep it tight and then if needs be go a bit more adventurous later on. Sunderland exploited our efforts to push out more, so in some ways that justifies Lambert's decision.
There are many things to have a go at Lambert about, but not beating a top 6 side with only 10 men isn't one of them.
Anyone should have been happy with apoint last night; had we been less adventurous there's a good chance we could have got a point. We weren't savvy enough though; including players switching off at the key moment and the bizarre decision to not slow the game down more when it was 0-0. |  |
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