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is there a more fragile powder puff central midfield pairing in world football 16:35 - Mar 20 with 3648 viewsCoco

then sweet boy Bishop and pampered darling Dozzell?

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is there a more fragile powder puff central midfield pairing in world football on 17:16 - Mar 20 with 824 viewsghostofescobar

A bit over the top, but PC seems to be thinking along those lines, looking at his post match comments. By that, I don’t mean those two in particular, but PC obviously doesn’t think our midfield has enough bite and that’s stopping him playing two upfront.

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is there a more fragile powder puff central midfield pairing in world football on 17:20 - Mar 20 with 812 viewspositivity

is there a more fragile powder puff central midfield pairing in world football on 17:10 - Mar 20 by Chrisd

I'm putting sentiment aside. Dozzell doesn't influence games enough for me and Bishop had a terrific impact in 2014/15, but injuries have really hampered him. I've said this before, but I'm not sure what our midfield offers? They don't create, tackle, dominant the opponents and rarely get beyond the striker to score goals. We've got a lot of sentiment with a lot of those players in midfield because they are youth products, but sadly they just don't deliver consistently enough. They are still players with potential, but the problem is they aren't young players any more they are men, but don't play like it.


i think they have more to offer, i think both can fit cook's model.

doz needs to play regular with a downes-type player who will do his share of breaking up play and leave doz more leeway to get the passing game going

bish could do a similar role, but will be better in the more advanced role, he's shown in the first part of the season that he has goals in his locker.

both need a run of games in these positions, i think cook will settle down the team as he gets to know them, and these two will be in it

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is there a more fragile powder puff central midfield pairing in world football on 17:24 - Mar 20 with 801 viewsChrisd

is there a more fragile powder puff central midfield pairing in world football on 17:20 - Mar 20 by positivity

i think they have more to offer, i think both can fit cook's model.

doz needs to play regular with a downes-type player who will do his share of breaking up play and leave doz more leeway to get the passing game going

bish could do a similar role, but will be better in the more advanced role, he's shown in the first part of the season that he has goals in his locker.

both need a run of games in these positions, i think cook will settle down the team as he gets to know them, and these two will be in it


That's your opinion and you're entitled to it Positivity.

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is there a more fragile powder puff central midfield pairing in world football on 18:00 - Mar 20 with 762 viewsCheltenham_Blue

is there a more fragile powder puff central midfield pairing in world football on 17:20 - Mar 20 by positivity

i think they have more to offer, i think both can fit cook's model.

doz needs to play regular with a downes-type player who will do his share of breaking up play and leave doz more leeway to get the passing game going

bish could do a similar role, but will be better in the more advanced role, he's shown in the first part of the season that he has goals in his locker.

both need a run of games in these positions, i think cook will settle down the team as he gets to know them, and these two will be in it


Bish and Doz are both no10 type players IMHO. Why Doz thinks he's a deeper midfield player is absolutely beyond me.

As I said, we can have one of them, but I don't think we can have both.

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is there a more fragile powder puff central midfield pairing in world football on 18:02 - Mar 20 with 760 viewsMrTown

is there a more fragile powder puff central midfield pairing in world football on 18:00 - Mar 20 by Cheltenham_Blue

Bish and Doz are both no10 type players IMHO. Why Doz thinks he's a deeper midfield player is absolutely beyond me.

As I said, we can have one of them, but I don't think we can have both.


Neither would be the best solution.

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is there a more fragile powder puff central midfield pairing in world football on 18:02 - Mar 20 with 760 viewsArnieM

OP’er....who would you pair in midfield right now?

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is there a more fragile powder puff central midfield pairing in world football on 18:05 - Mar 20 with 753 viewsCoco

is there a more fragile powder puff central midfield pairing in world football on 18:02 - Mar 20 by ArnieM

OP’er....who would you pair in midfield right now?


We have no other options. That’s the problem.

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is there a more fragile powder puff central midfield pairing in world football on 18:12 - Mar 20 with 744 viewsArnieM

is there a more fragile powder puff central midfield pairing in world football on 18:05 - Mar 20 by Coco

We have no other options. That’s the problem.


Agreed 100%. And that’s the problems Cook faces every day at this club, yet some fans are expecting Miracles aren’t they.

Nothing will happen this season. In many ways I’d not want to make those play offs because we will ripped a new one, by teams far hungrier than our lot. It’d be embarrassing.

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is there a more fragile powder puff central midfield pairing in world football on 18:15 - Mar 20 with 740 viewsCoco

is there a more fragile powder puff central midfield pairing in world football on 18:12 - Mar 20 by ArnieM

Agreed 100%. And that’s the problems Cook faces every day at this club, yet some fans are expecting Miracles aren’t they.

Nothing will happen this season. In many ways I’d not want to make those play offs because we will ripped a new one, by teams far hungrier than our lot. It’d be embarrassing.


Totally - this was never a dig at Cook. Cook is the coach we’ve need for a long time and will build something in his own vision like Burley. I genuinely would be happy to release most of this squad and let Cook replace them with well considered free transfers. In the current climate it could actually be done and Appleton has proved it can be done effectively.

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is there a more fragile powder puff central midfield pairing in world football on 18:16 - Mar 20 with 740 viewslmfcblue

I said ages ago without Downes we are so lightweight in CM , again poor recruitment from PL.
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is there a more fragile powder puff central midfield pairing in world football on 18:34 - Mar 20 with 717 viewspositivity

is there a more fragile powder puff central midfield pairing in world football on 18:00 - Mar 20 by Cheltenham_Blue

Bish and Doz are both no10 type players IMHO. Why Doz thinks he's a deeper midfield player is absolutely beyond me.

As I said, we can have one of them, but I don't think we can have both.


i think doz could play as a 10, but i think his range of passing means he's better as a deeper midfield player launching our attacks.

whether we have the players to fit this is another question...

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is there a more fragile powder puff central midfield pairing in world football on 18:42 - Mar 20 with 713 viewsCoco

is there a more fragile powder puff central midfield pairing in world football on 18:34 - Mar 20 by positivity

i think doz could play as a 10, but i think his range of passing means he's better as a deeper midfield player launching our attacks.

whether we have the players to fit this is another question...


A number 10 chips in with goals. That aint Dozz. I imagine he sees himself as a Pirlo which is not really of much value in L1

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is there a more fragile powder puff central midfield pairing in world football on 19:01 - Mar 20 with 701 viewschrismakin

is there a more fragile powder puff central midfield pairing in world football on 17:09 - Mar 20 by jaykay

remember when hurst didn't pick him the board was in uproar. his dad wasn't happy and not shy in letting everyone know it. none of the midfield have any energy. arrive to late to help out the forwards and just arrive in the 18 yard box as the opponents score,.
if you want someone to patrol the centre circle those 2 are your men


I actually find Andre quite lazy, he never really seems to get going, you never really see him stretch his legs, or bust a gut to get back, he just floats around

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is there a more fragile powder puff central midfield pairing in world football on 19:19 - Mar 20 with 683 viewsnoggin

is there a more fragile powder puff central midfield pairing in world football on 19:01 - Mar 20 by chrismakin

I actually find Andre quite lazy, he never really seems to get going, you never really see him stretch his legs, or bust a gut to get back, he just floats around


Spot on.

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is there a more fragile powder puff central midfield pairing in world football on 19:30 - Mar 20 with 673 viewsJakeITFC

Both of them would move higher in the league system if they were to leave us.
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is there a more fragile powder puff central midfield pairing in world football on 19:43 - Mar 20 with 651 viewsjaykay

is there a more fragile powder puff central midfield pairing in world football on 19:01 - Mar 20 by chrismakin

I actually find Andre quite lazy, he never really seems to get going, you never really see him stretch his legs, or bust a gut to get back, he just floats around


i think i just said all in my post

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is there a more fragile powder puff central midfield pairing in world football on 19:45 - Mar 20 with 644 viewschrismakin

is there a more fragile powder puff central midfield pairing in world football on 19:43 - Mar 20 by jaykay

i think i just said all in my post


Yep sorry, didn't see that

Andre may go onto better things, but it's not what we 'need' at the club at the moment

It might work higher up in a side where he can just roam around, not get involved off the ball and then just pop a ball over the top for someone to chase after, but we need more.

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is there a more fragile powder puff central midfield pairing in world football on 20:19 - Mar 20 with 626 viewsBelsteadCav

Both have flattered to deceive for far too long. Neither of them score or create chances

People laugh at Skuse but I’d play him in front of both of them


Downes is our only decent midfielder

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