| Drogba 19:18 - Apr 23 with 8254 views | chrismakin |
Only asking this as I see local journo's interacting with him on twitter
BUT seriously, 43, worth a season IF Berke was able to work his magic?
The media/marketing side of it would be immense, shirt sales etc. But what about the player.. i've no idea at league 1 level who the oldest players have been. [Post edited 23 Apr 2021 19:19]
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| Drogba on 13:57 - Apr 26 with 742 views | footers |
| Drogba on 13:56 - Apr 26 by J2BLUE |
I'm not going to name names. I didn't say what you are suggesting. I said cm was passionate and it was better than people who refuse to admit they care. I didn't mention anything about them having a problem with his number of posts. Not that it is any of their business. We frequently see posters mock anyone who shows enthusiasm. We frequently see posters say things like 'I can't wait until we lose on Saturday to see the meltdown on here'. You really want to argue the point that people aren't increasingly apathetic? I appreciate we've had it so bad for so long that people are worn out but some people get mocked for showing the slightest bit of hope and enthusiasm. |
It's gallows humour and you're reading far too much into it. |  |
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| Drogba on 13:58 - Apr 26 with 730 views | rickw |
Personally I think signing a 43 year old who's been retired 3 years seems just like a publicity stunt and makes us seem mickey mouse - even if he is still our best striker! |  |
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| Drogba on 13:58 - Apr 26 with 726 views | SpruceMoose |
| Drogba on 13:39 - Apr 26 by Metal_Hacker |
I think the forum in general over the last few months has taken a strange turn to be fair which is why I have limited my OWN posts and engagement because I really cannot be ar5ed to "win the internet"
The last time I saw , we were all pi55ing the same pot but for the most time recently it's like we're opposing fans
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Nobody here tries to win the internet.
What's been happening is that we've had a set of posters decide to start using the forum like their own internal monolog, too often wanting to put their views out there but not wanting any response or reaction them.
Say your piece, by all means post the same thing fifty times a day if you want, just don't have a cry when other people don't necessarily agree with you. Who cares if people think you're wrong? Believe what you believe. Nobody should need their views validated by other people here. |  |
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| Drogba on 13:59 - Apr 26 with 717 views | J2BLUE |
| Drogba on 13:57 - Apr 26 by footers |
It's gallows humour and you're reading far too much into it. |
It isn't though. I can tell the difference. Often the gallows humour jokes are genuinely funny because most of the time its true. |  |
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| Drogba on 14:09 - Apr 26 with 673 views | SpruceMoose |
| Drogba on 13:55 - Apr 26 by chrismakin |
Spruce can I ask what is the actual problem
It's not like I post the same reply 50 times to an OP. I use the forum for its purposes.. discussion. That means I reply to fellow posters and get involved in a discussion.
That's what they want from their posts. Otherwise there is no point posting anything if it's not to start a discussion.
My job means I have a lot of time spent on my own. This could be at the desk just watching over the building. Or daytime when I'm awake ready to go again but all my friends and my wife are at work. So this place is great for me to use otherwise being honest I'd be very very bored [Post edited 26 Apr 2021 13:57]
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I don't have an issue personally. My issue here was with J2 saying that if people don't appreciate a given posters posting style they're somehow trying to hide they care about the club.
I've got used to your posting style now, and even if I hadn't I think you should feel free to post however you want, as often as you want. A while back I'll admit the amount you were posting, and the things you were posting about, was at a level where it was taking up a lot of the forum and nothing was really leading to a discussion anyway. That is probably what a lot of people are basing their opinions on.
Look, there have been times when I've probably posted on here more than you do. But, when I was in those periods, I also had to deal with people telling me they thought I posted too much, or that they didn't appreciate what I was posting - and maybe they were right.
If you're going to start a load of threads, all about similar things, you're going to get some people who think it's too much and it'll put them off getting involved. That's just a fact. Just as you're free to post whatever you like, other people are free to not like it.
How much you care about that depends on how many people you want to get involved with your discussions. Like everyone else on here, the response you receive is related to the way you conduct yourself. I don't think you should change what you want to do though, and I don't think anyone should tell you to change either. Anyone doing that should pipe down.
The separate issue on here lately (and I don't think you're involved in this one) is people posting their opinions and then having a meltdown when other people disagree. | |
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| Drogba on 14:10 - Apr 26 with 664 views | J2BLUE |
| Drogba on 14:09 - Apr 26 by SpruceMoose |
I don't have an issue personally. My issue here was with J2 saying that if people don't appreciate a given posters posting style they're somehow trying to hide they care about the club.
I've got used to your posting style now, and even if I hadn't I think you should feel free to post however you want, as often as you want. A while back I'll admit the amount you were posting, and the things you were posting about, was at a level where it was taking up a lot of the forum and nothing was really leading to a discussion anyway. That is probably what a lot of people are basing their opinions on.
Look, there have been times when I've probably posted on here more than you do. But, when I was in those periods, I also had to deal with people telling me they thought I posted too much, or that they didn't appreciate what I was posting - and maybe they were right.
If you're going to start a load of threads, all about similar things, you're going to get some people who think it's too much and it'll put them off getting involved. That's just a fact. Just as you're free to post whatever you like, other people are free to not like it.
How much you care about that depends on how many people you want to get involved with your discussions. Like everyone else on here, the response you receive is related to the way you conduct yourself. I don't think you should change what you want to do though, and I don't think anyone should tell you to change either. Anyone doing that should pipe down.
The separate issue on here lately (and I don't think you're involved in this one) is people posting their opinions and then having a meltdown when other people disagree. |
Again, I did not say that. I made two separate statements, a and b. You are saying I said a is because of b. That is not what I said. | |
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| Drogba on 14:11 - Apr 26 with 651 views | SpruceMoose |
| Drogba on 13:59 - Apr 26 by J2BLUE |
It isn't though. I can tell the difference. Often the gallows humour jokes are genuinely funny because most of the time its true. |
I think Footers is right, you're reading far too much into it.
Also, it's probably not a good idea to attempt to police the way in which people express their support for the club in a thread where you are (correctly imo) telling people they shouldn't try to police a certain poster's style of support for the club. | |
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| Drogba on 14:11 - Apr 26 with 652 views | StokieBlue |
| Drogba on 13:56 - Apr 26 by J2BLUE |
I'm not going to name names. I didn't say what you are suggesting. I said cm was passionate and it was better than people who refuse to admit they care. I didn't mention anything about them having a problem with his number of posts. Not that it is any of their business. We frequently see posters mock anyone who shows enthusiasm. We frequently see posters say things like 'I can't wait until we lose on Saturday to see the meltdown on here'. You really want to argue the point that people aren't increasingly apathetic? I appreciate we've had it so bad for so long that people are worn out but some people get mocked for showing the slightest bit of hope and enthusiasm. |
To counter the point if someone continually cites "its being said on social media" as a valid reason to repost things here then in my opinion they open themselves up to a greater level of analysis. Using an "appeal to authority" fallacy like that then getting upset when people don't agree isn't debating. It's expecting everyone to agree with you and given TWTD isn't an echo chamber it's on the poster as much as the responders.
There is a difference between enthusiasm which is great and just posting everything you come across with no filter. Why even mention Drogba coming to play for Ipswich? It's nonsensical.
The issue here is that with volume, the good posts tend to get lost in the chaff and I am sure that is something nobody wants. CM makes some valid points and got some uppies from me yesterday. Perhaps volume does have a quality all of it's own but for me, the gems get lost in the noise. Each to their own though and people should do as they please.
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| Drogba on 14:12 - Apr 26 with 641 views | SpruceMoose |
| Drogba on 14:10 - Apr 26 by J2BLUE |
Again, I did not say that. I made two separate statements, a and b. You are saying I said a is because of b. That is not what I said. |
I know. You clarified your statement. Which was helpful as your original seems badly worded given what you've since said you were trying to express. I still disagree with it though. [Post edited 26 Apr 2021 14:12]
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| Drogba on 14:15 - Apr 26 with 635 views | J2BLUE |
| Drogba on 14:11 - Apr 26 by SpruceMoose |
I think Footers is right, you're reading far too much into it.
Also, it's probably not a good idea to attempt to police the way in which people express their support for the club in a thread where you are (correctly imo) telling people they shouldn't try to police a certain poster's style of support for the club. |
I'm not trying to police anything. I said that's how they came across to me.
Would you be willing to put each other on ignore? I'm not looking for a ten page public spat or an argument. | |
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| Drogba on 14:16 - Apr 26 with 621 views | SpruceMoose |
| Drogba on 14:11 - Apr 26 by StokieBlue |
To counter the point if someone continually cites "its being said on social media" as a valid reason to repost things here then in my opinion they open themselves up to a greater level of analysis. Using an "appeal to authority" fallacy like that then getting upset when people don't agree isn't debating. It's expecting everyone to agree with you and given TWTD isn't an echo chamber it's on the poster as much as the responders.
There is a difference between enthusiasm which is great and just posting everything you come across with no filter. Why even mention Drogba coming to play for Ipswich? It's nonsensical.
The issue here is that with volume, the good posts tend to get lost in the chaff and I am sure that is something nobody wants. CM makes some valid points and got some uppies from me yesterday. Perhaps volume does have a quality all of it's own but for me, the gems get lost in the noise. Each to their own though and people should do as they please.
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I think you've hit the nail on the head here.
If the aim of the game is genuinely discussion, then it's hard to maintain a reasonable standard of discourse when there a fifty new threads all saying similar things. Many forums have rules regarding such duplicate threads, and often they end up merging them into one, for that very reason. | |
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| Drogba on 14:16 - Apr 26 with 618 views | J2BLUE |
| Drogba on 14:11 - Apr 26 by StokieBlue |
To counter the point if someone continually cites "its being said on social media" as a valid reason to repost things here then in my opinion they open themselves up to a greater level of analysis. Using an "appeal to authority" fallacy like that then getting upset when people don't agree isn't debating. It's expecting everyone to agree with you and given TWTD isn't an echo chamber it's on the poster as much as the responders.
There is a difference between enthusiasm which is great and just posting everything you come across with no filter. Why even mention Drogba coming to play for Ipswich? It's nonsensical.
The issue here is that with volume, the good posts tend to get lost in the chaff and I am sure that is something nobody wants. CM makes some valid points and got some uppies from me yesterday. Perhaps volume does have a quality all of it's own but for me, the gems get lost in the noise. Each to their own though and people should do as they please.
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Fair enough. Is it any different to the pick a legend to put in our team or fantasy football type posts though? | |
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| Drogba on 14:17 - Apr 26 with 607 views | chrismakin |
| Drogba on 14:11 - Apr 26 by StokieBlue |
To counter the point if someone continually cites "its being said on social media" as a valid reason to repost things here then in my opinion they open themselves up to a greater level of analysis. Using an "appeal to authority" fallacy like that then getting upset when people don't agree isn't debating. It's expecting everyone to agree with you and given TWTD isn't an echo chamber it's on the poster as much as the responders.
There is a difference between enthusiasm which is great and just posting everything you come across with no filter. Why even mention Drogba coming to play for Ipswich? It's nonsensical.
The issue here is that with volume, the good posts tend to get lost in the chaff and I am sure that is something nobody wants. CM makes some valid points and got some uppies from me yesterday. Perhaps volume does have a quality all of it's own but for me, the gems get lost in the noise. Each to their own though and people should do as they please.
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Whilst I get your point SB. This is exactly the place to discuss things you see on social media
As player I can understand those saying no. Does it open up the possibilities of Drogba coming in in a different capacity... could the link up with a person of Drogba perhaps open up an alternative recruitment route.
All worth while discussions to have and why not. It beats talking about not scoring for 10 hours. | |
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| Drogba on 14:19 - Apr 26 with 585 views | chicoazul |
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| Drogba on 14:19 - Apr 26 with 583 views | SpruceMoose |
| Drogba on 14:15 - Apr 26 by J2BLUE |
I'm not trying to police anything. I said that's how they came across to me.
Would you be willing to put each other on ignore? I'm not looking for a ten page public spat or an argument. |
There's no need to get worked up. I appreciated CM's question to me, and think I answered him politely and honestly. There's no animosity, there's no argument, there's no need for anyone to put anyone on ignore.
Unless you mean, you want me and you to put each other on ignore? You're free to do as you wish but you don't meet my standards for div listing! Perhaps I misunderstood what you meant initially, but you clarified, which was helpful, but I still don't see it the way you do. I don't see the issue though. No big deal. We disagree. Won't be the first time and won't be the last. [Post edited 26 Apr 2021 14:20]
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| Drogba on 14:21 - Apr 26 with 570 views | J2BLUE |
| Drogba on 14:19 - Apr 26 by SpruceMoose |
There's no need to get worked up. I appreciated CM's question to me, and think I answered him politely and honestly. There's no animosity, there's no argument, there's no need for anyone to put anyone on ignore.
Unless you mean, you want me and you to put each other on ignore? You're free to do as you wish but you don't meet my standards for div listing! Perhaps I misunderstood what you meant initially, but you clarified, which was helpful, but I still don't see it the way you do. I don't see the issue though. No big deal. We disagree. Won't be the first time and won't be the last. [Post edited 26 Apr 2021 14:20]
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I'm not getting worked up. Yes I meant me and you.
Fair enough, I asked, you've declined. | |
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| Drogba on 14:23 - Apr 26 with 560 views | footers |
| Drogba on 14:21 - Apr 26 by J2BLUE |
I'm not getting worked up. Yes I meant me and you.
Fair enough, I asked, you've declined. |
Let me step in here and heal these wounds. No longer a member of the LBF, I am able to take on such a role.
It would be a shame for you two to ignore each other as your relationship has gone from strength to strength in recent months.
Let us put all this behind us and resolve to move forward together, as brothers in ITFC.
Or just put everyone on ignore - whatever works. | |
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| Drogba on 14:25 - Apr 26 with 551 views | jeera |
I can't be bothered to trawl through as I see it's all gone a bit skew whiff anyways.
But is the same as this chap here posted?
Stuart Watson have a word with yourself! by OriginalMarkyP 26 Apr 2021 12:32Running a story about could Drogba do a job for Ipswich in L1.
Obviously not.
Watch the Phoenix Rising games he played. The pace of the game is really slow. He doesn't look to have any pace left and that was 4 years ago. The poor guy is older than Finidi George was when he came here. He'd get hacked to bits and risk serious injury. He would not 'Destroy League 1' he'd get hurt.
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| Drogba on 14:26 - Apr 26 with 535 views | SpruceMoose |
| Drogba on 14:21 - Apr 26 by J2BLUE |
I'm not getting worked up. Yes I meant me and you.
Fair enough, I asked, you've declined. |
Seems like an over reaction to me, but if you need to do that, you do that.
I'm not looking for a ten page argument either, and I'm not even giving you that right now. I'm not even sure how I've ended up getting this reaction. I just disagree with you, that's all.
I think it's equally acceptable for people to express the manner in which they care about the club through a kind of dark humour and cynicism as it it through a Golden Retriever type enthusiasm, and I don't think it's fair to disparage them for doing so. That's it. | |
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| Drogba on 14:27 - Apr 26 with 529 views | J2BLUE |
| Drogba on 14:23 - Apr 26 by footers |
Let me step in here and heal these wounds. No longer a member of the LBF, I am able to take on such a role.
It would be a shame for you two to ignore each other as your relationship has gone from strength to strength in recent months.
Let us put all this behind us and resolve to move forward together, as brothers in ITFC.
Or just put everyone on ignore - whatever works. |
Thank you and goodbye.
Only joking | |
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| Drogba on 14:43 - Apr 26 with 490 views | StokieBlue |
| Drogba on 14:17 - Apr 26 by chrismakin |
Whilst I get your point SB. This is exactly the place to discuss things you see on social media
As player I can understand those saying no. Does it open up the possibilities of Drogba coming in in a different capacity... could the link up with a person of Drogba perhaps open up an alternative recruitment route.
All worth while discussions to have and why not. It beats talking about not scoring for 10 hours. |
To be fair though your initial premise was about him as a player.
Isn't social media the place to discuss everything that's on social media?
It's a platform open to all after all. The issue with social media is that it's like the worst night you've ever had down the pub. It's full of stuff that doesn't even make sense after 10 pints so it's not surprising that a lot of it gets pushed back when posted on here.
Now that doesn't mean that there is nothing of value on social media, there clearly is stuff of value but that is where applying a filter comes in. I think everyone gets a better debate when the really interesting topics are picked out and dissected rather than a scattergun approach.
Once again though, people can and should do as they wish. I can only offer my thoughts and opinions. Unfortunately recently (and this isn't aimed at you) a number of people don't seem to want to hear opinions unless they agree with what they are saying.
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| Drogba on 14:45 - Apr 26 with 479 views | SpruceMoose |
| Drogba on 14:43 - Apr 26 by StokieBlue |
To be fair though your initial premise was about him as a player.
Isn't social media the place to discuss everything that's on social media?
It's a platform open to all after all. The issue with social media is that it's like the worst night you've ever had down the pub. It's full of stuff that doesn't even make sense after 10 pints so it's not surprising that a lot of it gets pushed back when posted on here.
Now that doesn't mean that there is nothing of value on social media, there clearly is stuff of value but that is where applying a filter comes in. I think everyone gets a better debate when the really interesting topics are picked out and dissected rather than a scattergun approach.
Once again though, people can and should do as they wish. I can only offer my thoughts and opinions. Unfortunately recently (and this isn't aimed at you) a number of people don't seem to want to hear opinions unless they agree with what they are saying.
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"I can only offer my thoughts and opinions. Unfortunately recently (and this isn't aimed at you) a number of people don't seem to want to hear opinions unless they agree with what they are saying."
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| Drogba on 14:47 - Apr 26 with 472 views | chrismakin |
| Drogba on 14:43 - Apr 26 by StokieBlue |
To be fair though your initial premise was about him as a player.
Isn't social media the place to discuss everything that's on social media?
It's a platform open to all after all. The issue with social media is that it's like the worst night you've ever had down the pub. It's full of stuff that doesn't even make sense after 10 pints so it's not surprising that a lot of it gets pushed back when posted on here.
Now that doesn't mean that there is nothing of value on social media, there clearly is stuff of value but that is where applying a filter comes in. I think everyone gets a better debate when the really interesting topics are picked out and dissected rather than a scattergun approach.
Once again though, people can and should do as they wish. I can only offer my thoughts and opinions. Unfortunately recently (and this isn't aimed at you) a number of people don't seem to want to hear opinions unless they agree with what they are saying.
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Yeah and tbh my original question was genuinely because whilst I appreciate his age, I wasn't sure if league 1 is similar as the championship when it comes to player ages etc, and something that may have seemed high, might not have been, and social media replies weren't really helping as they were basically replying to the original media links with excitement of him being a signing...
With twitters lack of characters etc you don't really get to have a discussion and it's not really a place for them either, it is more of a 1 liner reply really. | |
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| Drogba on 14:49 - Apr 26 with 463 views | SpruceMoose |
| Drogba on 14:47 - Apr 26 by chrismakin |
Yeah and tbh my original question was genuinely because whilst I appreciate his age, I wasn't sure if league 1 is similar as the championship when it comes to player ages etc, and something that may have seemed high, might not have been, and social media replies weren't really helping as they were basically replying to the original media links with excitement of him being a signing...
With twitters lack of characters etc you don't really get to have a discussion and it's not really a place for them either, it is more of a 1 liner reply really. |
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| Drogba on 14:49 - Apr 26 with 464 views | J2BLUE |
| Drogba on 14:47 - Apr 26 by chrismakin |
Yeah and tbh my original question was genuinely because whilst I appreciate his age, I wasn't sure if league 1 is similar as the championship when it comes to player ages etc, and something that may have seemed high, might not have been, and social media replies weren't really helping as they were basically replying to the original media links with excitement of him being a signing...
With twitters lack of characters etc you don't really get to have a discussion and it's not really a place for them either, it is more of a 1 liner reply really. |
Agree on Twitter. I don't really use it purely for that reason. It's more about snappy one liners than in depth discussion.
Apologies for sort of dragging you into this thread. I mean, i know you started the thread but I didn't intend to drag up your posting style again. Was trying to be supportive! | |
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