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Plans for 50% funding cut to arts subjects at universities on 09:12 - May 6 with 678 viewsStokieBlue

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Your initial posts were barely coherent though. I couldn't really understand what point you were trying to make. It's perhaps best to be precise in your meaning before accusing others of missing the point, given there was no easily discernible point being made.

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[Redacted] on 09:15 - May 6 with 663 viewsvictorywilhappen

Plans for 50% funding cut to arts subjects at universities on 09:08 - May 6 by StokieBlue

That's an unbelievably condescending post.

Art is surely in the eye of the beholder and meaning and understanding are different for everyone and it's a purely individual thing.

You dictating what experience is required and what people should see in the art is against what art should be about.

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[Redacted] on 09:18 - May 6 with 651 viewsvictorywilhappen

Plans for 50% funding cut to arts subjects at universities on 09:11 - May 6 by Guthrum

Not to mention technical skill in disciplines such as drawing, sculpting, composition, etc.


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Plans for 50% funding cut to arts subjects at universities on 09:18 - May 6 with 652 viewsfooters

Plans for 50% funding cut to arts subjects at universities on 09:12 - May 6 by StokieBlue

Your initial posts were barely coherent though. I couldn't really understand what point you were trying to make. It's perhaps best to be precise in your meaning before accusing others of missing the point, given there was no easily discernible point being made.

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And I don't think 'people who I assume have less life experience than me shouldn't be able to get funding for an arts degree' is a great argument anyway. It's petty gatekeeping.

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Plans for 50% funding cut to arts subjects at universities on 09:19 - May 6 with 636 viewsDarth_Koont

Plans for 50% funding cut to arts subjects at universities on 09:08 - May 6 by StokieBlue

That's an unbelievably condescending post.

Art is surely in the eye of the beholder and meaning and understanding are different for everyone and it's a purely individual thing.

You dictating what experience is required and what people should see in the art is against what art should be about.

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Sure. But I think Victory has a valid point of view that’s also part of it.

You both can and can’t train to be an artist. And getting some external experience, insight and perspective is also important.

In that sense, maybe an arts education could be a very useful re-training route?

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[Redacted] on 09:21 - May 6 with 623 viewsvictorywilhappen

Plans for 50% funding cut to arts subjects at universities on 09:18 - May 6 by footers

And I don't think 'people who I assume have less life experience than me shouldn't be able to get funding for an arts degree' is a great argument anyway. It's petty gatekeeping.


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[Redacted] on 09:25 - May 6 with 603 viewsvictorywilhappen

Plans for 50% funding cut to arts subjects at universities on 09:12 - May 6 by StokieBlue

Your initial posts were barely coherent though. I couldn't really understand what point you were trying to make. It's perhaps best to be precise in your meaning before accusing others of missing the point, given there was no easily discernible point being made.

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[Redacted] on 09:29 - May 6 with 590 viewsvictorywilhappen

Plans for 50% funding cut to arts subjects at universities on 09:12 - May 6 by BanksterDebtSlave

My thread is definitely better and illustrates that when it comes to replies, sometimes less is more!


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Plans for 50% funding cut to arts subjects at universities on 09:35 - May 6 with 567 viewsBlueandTruesince82

Plans for 50% funding cut to arts subjects at universities on 09:11 - May 6 by Guthrum

Not to mention technical skill in disciplines such as drawing, sculpting, composition, etc.


It's what all the art students used to tell me whilst propping up the uni bar..... I can't even draw straight line

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Plans for 50% funding cut to arts subjects at universities on 10:23 - May 6 with 526 viewsfactual_blue

Plans for 50% funding cut to arts subjects at universities on 09:35 - May 6 by BlueandTruesince82

It's what all the art students used to tell me whilst propping up the uni bar..... I can't even draw straight line


Did you enjoy working behind the uni bar?

Not sure the erudition rubbed off though.

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Plans for 50% funding cut to arts subjects at universities on 10:49 - May 6 with 498 viewsHerbivore

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What about talking in boll0cks?

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Plans for 50% funding cut to arts subjects at universities on 10:54 - May 6 with 483 viewsBlueNomad

Plans for 50% funding cut to arts subjects at universities on 08:19 - May 6 by stjohnsblue

I’m not sure I can comment on the gist of how this thread is going as my head’s a bit fuzzy from too many babyshams.

I’m pretty worried about the long term effect of this proposal. Funding and priority for the Arts has already been decimated at secondary school level and the impact of this will be felt even wider.

Not being a ‘strategic priority’ feels like a kick in the nads as personally music, comedy, podcasts, live streams and a bit of gaming got me through the last 15 months when there didn’t seem much light.

My job is within the creative industry (within music and alternative education) and the 50% arts cut proposal is very troubling. The Arts covers music, radio, dance, film, design and so much more. The jobs the sector supports can be anything from a 1st rung opportunity running for a film production to audio and lighting engineers, set designers before you even get to ‘the artists’ themselves.

I’m not sure how much the government really values the £10.8 billion (and growing) industry it’s about to stifle. The Arts aren’t just a flouncy subject and about a theatre production of a 2hr ‘difficult to watch naked monologue about the pains of being governed by one’s own genitals’.

If anyone here has danced in a nightclub, been to a gig, listened to Spotify, watched Netflix or turned on the radio, put some artwork on your wall, that’s all ‘The Arts’ and the creative industries.

Regardless of anyone’s political persuasions a world without the arts (or a hamstrung sector) is a soulless place.

Apologies for the ramble, this forum is the closest I get to social media.


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Plans for 50% funding cut to arts subjects at universities on 10:58 - May 6 with 475 viewsSwansea_Blue

Tories in being cultural and social vandals shocker. The arts are strongly linked to community projects and the like, so no wonder they want to cut funding.

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Plans for 50% funding cut to arts subjects at universities on 11:05 - May 6 with 457 viewsHerbivore

Plans for 50% funding cut to arts subjects at universities on 10:58 - May 6 by Swansea_Blue

Tories in being cultural and social vandals shocker. The arts are strongly linked to community projects and the like, so no wonder they want to cut funding.


Art and culture is just lefty wokeism. They'll ban galleries soon.

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Plans for 50% funding cut to arts subjects at universities on 11:09 - May 6 with 452 viewsBlueandTruesince82

Plans for 50% funding cut to arts subjects at universities on 10:23 - May 6 by factual_blue

Did you enjoy working behind the uni bar?

Not sure the erudition rubbed off though.


I was doing the propping mate, which probabaly provide a clearer explanation for that.


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Plans for 50% funding cut to arts subjects at universities on 11:09 - May 6 with 450 viewsBanksterDebtSlave

Plans for 50% funding cut to arts subjects at universities on 10:54 - May 6 by BlueNomad

In this wonderful land money is now more important than the soul.


....and money is the sandpit of the soul


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Plans for 50% funding cut to arts subjects at universities on 11:09 - May 6 with 451 viewsfooters

Plans for 50% funding cut to arts subjects at universities on 11:05 - May 6 by Herbivore

Art and culture is just lefty wokeism. They'll ban galleries soon.


But of course there are exemptions for classical music students. We don't want another Banksy on our hands but we also don't want to cancel Glyndebourne either.

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Plans for 50% funding cut to arts subjects at universities on 11:24 - May 6 with 438 viewsGuthrum

Plans for 50% funding cut to arts subjects at universities on 09:35 - May 6 by BlueandTruesince82

It's what all the art students used to tell me whilst propping up the uni bar..... I can't even draw straight line


I was rubbish at art, gave it up before O-Level, even. But I did do a History of Art course many years later, which gave me quite an appreciation for the subject, even a lot of modern art (which I had rather derided before).

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[Redacted] on 11:36 - May 6 with 429 viewsvictorywilhappen

Plans for 50% funding cut to arts subjects at universities on 10:49 - May 6 by Herbivore

What about talking in boll0cks?


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[Redacted] on 11:37 - May 6 with 425 viewsvictorywilhappen

Plans for 50% funding cut to arts subjects at universities on 11:09 - May 6 by footers

But of course there are exemptions for classical music students. We don't want another Banksy on our hands but we also don't want to cancel Glyndebourne either.


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Plans for 50% funding cut to arts subjects at universities on 11:40 - May 6 with 405 viewsfooters

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I sincerely hope this latest piece of artistic genius isn't straying into homophobia.

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[Redacted] on 11:43 - May 6 with 398 viewsvictorywilhappen

Plans for 50% funding cut to arts subjects at universities on 11:40 - May 6 by footers

I sincerely hope this latest piece of artistic genius isn't straying into homophobia.


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Plans for 50% funding cut to arts subjects at universities on 11:46 - May 6 with 392 viewsBlueBadger

[Redacted] on 11:37 - May 6 by victorywilhappen

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They taking the piss aren't they? Any minute now one of them's going to say 'here's a picture of me bum'...
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[Redacted] on 11:51 - May 6 with 381 viewsvictorywilhappen

Plans for 50% funding cut to arts subjects at universities on 11:46 - May 6 by BlueBadger

They taking the piss aren't they? Any minute now one of them's going to say 'here's a picture of me bum'...
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Plans for 50% funding cut to arts subjects at universities on 12:23 - May 6 with 362 viewsleitrimblue

In the spirit of this slightly fecked up and confusing thread I would just like to add that art degrees are for losers and hippies
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