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And theres the headline that sums the mindset up 12:16 - May 21 with 3784 viewschrismakin




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And theres the headline that sums the mindset up on 12:21 - May 21 with 2220 viewsportmanking

It's refreshing to hear a player admit that, rather than the propaganda that was trotted out week in week out via the official site.

I think this reinforces the view that the squad was overrated and Wilson clearly saw flaws throughout the team.
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And theres the headline that sums the mindset up on 12:22 - May 21 with 2213 viewsMattinLondon

From reading the article he thinks that the players weren’t weren’t good enough and there was too much tinkering.

Think we all knew that.
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And theres the headline that sums the mindset up on 12:25 - May 21 with 2171 viewsMarshalls_Mullet

My takes from that;

1. I disagree with his claim that they didn't underachieve. We did have a squad capable of at least making the play offs if we had a capable manager in place.

2. Cook lost the players very early on, which explains the dismal form under his guidance. Lets hope he can rectify that over the summer.
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And theres the headline that sums the mindset up on 12:26 - May 21 with 2145 viewsGarv

And theres the headline that sums the mindset up on 12:21 - May 21 by portmanking

It's refreshing to hear a player admit that, rather than the propaganda that was trotted out week in week out via the official site.

I think this reinforces the view that the squad was overrated and Wilson clearly saw flaws throughout the team.


I like that he says that even on paper they weren't good enough. All we heard for a long while was 'on paper our squad is the best in the league'. I don't think even that was true.

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And theres the headline that sums the mindset up on 12:26 - May 21 with 2117 viewsMarshalls_Mullet

And theres the headline that sums the mindset up on 12:26 - May 21 by Garv

I like that he says that even on paper they weren't good enough. All we heard for a long while was 'on paper our squad is the best in the league'. I don't think even that was true.


They were good enough to make the play offs.

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And theres the headline that sums the mindset up on 12:27 - May 21 with 2109 viewsportmanking

And theres the headline that sums the mindset up on 12:25 - May 21 by Marshalls_Mullet

My takes from that;

1. I disagree with his claim that they didn't underachieve. We did have a squad capable of at least making the play offs if we had a capable manager in place.

2. Cook lost the players very early on, which explains the dismal form under his guidance. Lets hope he can rectify that over the summer.
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No idea where you get Point 1 from in that interview!
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And theres the headline that sums the mindset up on 12:28 - May 21 with 2092 viewsMarshalls_Mullet

And theres the headline that sums the mindset up on 12:27 - May 21 by portmanking

No idea where you get Point 1 from in that interview!


Apologies, have now edited.

I should have said I disagreed with his claim.

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And theres the headline that sums the mindset up on 12:28 - May 21 with 2094 viewschrismakin

And theres the headline that sums the mindset up on 12:22 - May 21 by MattinLondon

From reading the article he thinks that the players weren’t weren’t good enough and there was too much tinkering.

Think we all knew that.


Not ready for promotion despite being in and around playoffs for more than 3/4s of the season...

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And theres the headline that sums the mindset up on 12:30 - May 21 with 2049 viewsHerbivore

And theres the headline that sums the mindset up on 12:26 - May 21 by Garv

I like that he says that even on paper they weren't good enough. All we heard for a long while was 'on paper our squad is the best in the league'. I don't think even that was true.


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And theres the headline that sums the mindset up on 12:30 - May 21 with 2044 viewsMattinLondon

And theres the headline that sums the mindset up on 12:25 - May 21 by Marshalls_Mullet

My takes from that;

1. I disagree with his claim that they didn't underachieve. We did have a squad capable of at least making the play offs if we had a capable manager in place.

2. Cook lost the players very early on, which explains the dismal form under his guidance. Lets hope he can rectify that over the summer.
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Regarding point two - I find it a tad concerning that Cook told the players early on that he wanted his own players in. Surely, even if you didn’t rate what you have you’ll try to spin them a tale to try to overachieve and then get rid in the summer - even if you did finish in the playoffs etc?
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And theres the headline that sums the mindset up on 12:32 - May 21 with 1991 viewsTractorCam

And theres the headline that sums the mindset up on 12:21 - May 21 by portmanking

It's refreshing to hear a player admit that, rather than the propaganda that was trotted out week in week out via the official site.

I think this reinforces the view that the squad was overrated and Wilson clearly saw flaws throughout the team.


Meh


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And theres the headline that sums the mindset up on 12:33 - May 21 with 1976 viewsHerbivore

And theres the headline that sums the mindset up on 12:30 - May 21 by MattinLondon

Regarding point two - I find it a tad concerning that Cook told the players early on that he wanted his own players in. Surely, even if you didn’t rate what you have you’ll try to spin them a tale to try to overachieve and then get rid in the summer - even if you did finish in the playoffs etc?


Think it's looking increasingly like he came in like a bull in a china shop. Not sure that's always the best apprpach personally and it certainly didn't work here. Let's hope when he does get his own players in that we start to see why he's highly regarded as a manager.

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And theres the headline that sums the mindset up on 12:35 - May 21 with 1922 viewschrismakin

And theres the headline that sums the mindset up on 12:25 - May 21 by Marshalls_Mullet

My takes from that;

1. I disagree with his claim that they didn't underachieve. We did have a squad capable of at least making the play offs if we had a capable manager in place.

2. Cook lost the players very early on, which explains the dismal form under his guidance. Lets hope he can rectify that over the summer.
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I dont see how you say he lost the players early on.

Ward says the squad weren't good enough and felt they weren't ready yet you expect PC to pretend they are? Doesnt really go together

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And theres the headline that sums the mindset up on 12:36 - May 21 with 1882 viewsBryanPlug

And theres the headline that sums the mindset up on 12:25 - May 21 by Marshalls_Mullet

My takes from that;

1. I disagree with his claim that they didn't underachieve. We did have a squad capable of at least making the play offs if we had a capable manager in place.

2. Cook lost the players very early on, which explains the dismal form under his guidance. Lets hope he can rectify that over the summer.
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And theres the headline that sums the mindset up on 12:36 - May 21 with 1871 viewschrismakin

And theres the headline that sums the mindset up on 12:33 - May 21 by Herbivore

Think it's looking increasingly like he came in like a bull in a china shop. Not sure that's always the best apprpach personally and it certainly didn't work here. Let's hope when he does get his own players in that we start to see why he's highly regarded as a manager.


Apart from it wasnt.

He game them ample time to show what they could do. They let him down.. at that point rightfully he made it known he would be getting his own players in.

Sour grapes imo from wilson for being dropped first by Lambert and then by PC.
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Think it's looking increasingly like he came in like a bull in a china shop. Not sure that's always the best apprpach personally and it certainly didn't work here. Let's hope when he does get his own players in that we start to see why he's highly regarded as a manager.


He’s 55 and an experienced manager - I would have expected a tad more subtlety - rather than the bull in the China shop approach. Even if he never rated the players they were still only three points off the playoffs.

The new owners sound very supportive but inpatient so Cook will have to start with all engines blazing.
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And theres the headline that sums the mindset up on 12:38 - May 21 with 1837 viewsMarshalls_Mullet

And theres the headline that sums the mindset up on 12:35 - May 21 by chrismakin

I dont see how you say he lost the players early on.

Ward says the squad weren't good enough and felt they weren't ready yet you expect PC to pretend they are? Doesnt really go together


Call me old school, but I dont think this breeds motivation and a willingness to go above and beyond for your manager;

“When the new manager (Paul Cook) came in, he said pretty early that he wanted his own players and he was very honest about it.”

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“When the new manager (Paul Cook) came in, he said pretty early that he wanted his own players and he was very honest about it.”

Would that motivate you as an individual or as a team?

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And theres the headline that sums the mindset up on 12:39 - May 21 with 1810 viewschrismakin

And theres the headline that sums the mindset up on 12:37 - May 21 by MattinLondon

He’s 55 and an experienced manager - I would have expected a tad more subtlety - rather than the bull in the China shop approach. Even if he never rated the players they were still only three points off the playoffs.

The new owners sound very supportive but inpatient so Cook will have to start with all engines blazing.


The guy even said the players might need some love. How much more subtle did he need to be.

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And theres the headline that sums the mindset up on 12:36 - May 21 by chrismakin

Apart from it wasnt.

He game them ample time to show what they could do. They let him down.. at that point rightfully he made it known he would be getting his own players in.

Sour grapes imo from wilson for being dropped first by Lambert and then by PC.
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What's Ward got to do with it?
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And theres the headline that sums the mindset up on 12:40 - May 21 with 1780 viewsMarshalls_Mullet

And theres the headline that sums the mindset up on 12:36 - May 21 by chrismakin

Apart from it wasnt.

He game them ample time to show what they could do. They let him down.. at that point rightfully he made it known he would be getting his own players in.

Sour grapes imo from wilson for being dropped first by Lambert and then by PC.
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The phrase 'early on' is key in the article.

Of course we are all speculating, and its ok to disagree, but in my view I dont think that approach did anything for out 'promotion chances'.

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And theres the headline that sums the mindset up on 12:37 - May 21 by MattinLondon

He’s 55 and an experienced manager - I would have expected a tad more subtlety - rather than the bull in the China shop approach. Even if he never rated the players they were still only three points off the playoffs.

The new owners sound very supportive but inpatient so Cook will have to start with all engines blazing.


What gives you the idea the new owners are inpatient?

I doubt Cook will last the season if we aren't in the top 6, but i'm not sure where you've got that impression from.

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And theres the headline that sums the mindset up on 12:41 - May 21 with 1755 viewsMarshalls_Mullet

And theres the headline that sums the mindset up on 12:39 - May 21 by chrismakin

The guy even said the players might need some love. How much more subtle did he need to be.


To be fair, PC makes a hell of a lot of contradictory statements.

We learnt that in a short time.

Lets hope he gets the players he wants and turns things around in the summer.

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And theres the headline that sums the mindset up on 12:43 - May 21 with 1707 viewschrismakin

And theres the headline that sums the mindset up on 12:39 - May 21 by Beckets

What's Ward got to do with it?


Sorry error meant Wilson.

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And theres the headline that sums the mindset up on 12:36 - May 21 by chrismakin

Apart from it wasnt.

He game them ample time to show what they could do. They let him down.. at that point rightfully he made it known he would be getting his own players in.

Sour grapes imo from wilson for being dropped first by Lambert and then by PC.
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Disagree.

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