| Apparently 15:49 - Jun 22 with 4435 views | chicoazul |
Boris the fat useless tw@ is announcing on Monday that lockdown fully ends on the 5th July. [Post edited 22 Jun 2021 15:51]
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| Apparently on 16:45 - Jun 22 with 864 views | 26_Paz |
| Apparently on 16:24 - Jun 22 by wkj |
Do you not also see how the risk of that happening can be massively mitigated if Johnson waits and announces the direction after having a better handle on the data that will be coming his way over the next couple of weeks?
What if he doubles down and sticks to his 9th of July deadline - and that causes another massive spike? This is dangerous governance at the nth degree. |
I get what you mean but there needs to be some notice. Maybe 22nd June - 5th July is too much notice but he wouldn’t want to be doing it much later than a week before the 5th which is still next Monday. |  |
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| Apparently on 16:47 - Jun 22 with 859 views | positivity |
| Apparently on 16:43 - Jun 22 by hype313 |
The thing is what do we do every time a new variant arrives? lockdown again? we can't spend the rest of our lives in perennial lockdowns. |
which is why it's best to not fully re-open until we're better set up.
19th july may be too early, we can't say yet, 9th is mad.
the only thing worse for business than lockdown is re-opening too early and having to go back into a tougher lockdown |  |
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| Apparently on 16:50 - Jun 22 with 844 views | wkj |
| Apparently on 16:47 - Jun 22 by positivity |
which is why it's best to not fully re-open until we're better set up.
19th july may be too early, we can't say yet, 9th is mad.
the only thing worse for business than lockdown is re-opening too early and having to go back into a tougher lockdown |
I prefer the idea that Sturgeon seems to be eluding too. No guarantees until the date they expect 100% vaccination distribution amongst Scottish adults. |  |
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| Apparently on 16:54 - Jun 22 with 828 views | BlueBadger |
| Apparently on 16:14 - Jun 22 by wkj |
Here in lies where my analogy comes from regarding the current government
'They're like a bunch of substitute teachers being tasked with rewriting the curriculum'
Fundamental changes need to occur in the government, and I am not necessarily saying TORIES OUT! but rather saying this current cabinet are atrocious. The supporters of the Tories must surely be at a point they would need to nominate a leader of stability and pragmatism rather than a group of chancers making it up as they go along. |
Sure, it's cost the country trillions, over 150,000 have died, businesses have been devastated, our long term economic prospects have been hamstrung, we're wilfully intent on destroying our good relations with our neighbours, breaking up the union and stoking division and hate crimes with deliberately inflammatory rhetoric, but the important thing is that the libs have been well and truly OWNED.
Which is the most important thing. |  |
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| Apparently on 16:55 - Jun 22 with 820 views | hype313 |
| Apparently on 16:50 - Jun 22 by wkj |
I prefer the idea that Sturgeon seems to be eluding too. No guarantees until the date they expect 100% vaccination distribution amongst Scottish adults. |
So in that scenario given millions of over 18's haven't had their first jab yet, and they want 8 weeks between jabs, then we would well be looking at early September on that hypotheses.
Really can't see that happening on many levels. |  |
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| Apparently on 17:00 - Jun 22 with 802 views | positivity |
| Apparently on 16:55 - Jun 22 by hype313 |
So in that scenario given millions of over 18's haven't had their first jab yet, and they want 8 weeks between jabs, then we would well be looking at early September on that hypotheses.
Really can't see that happening on many levels. |
the only reason for the 8-12 weeks was due to low stocks and so we could get more people with the (more limited, but still useful) protection of one jab.
when we're down to the last group, we can speed it up (most of the trials looked at 3-4 weeks.
also the scottish rumour is based on guaranteed dates. if the data looks better, they'll open up earlier | |
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| Apparently on 17:00 - Jun 22 with 799 views | blueconscience |
Will only believe it when it happens [Post edited 22 Jun 2021 17:04]
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| Didn't they get the projections..... on 17:05 - Jun 22 with 793 views | Bloots |
....for the vaccine roll out totally wrong?
Someone typed the wrong figure into the spreadsheet, it was something like 250K per day input when it should have been 450k per day.
So the 19th July was announced based on incorrect data because some work experience kid couldn't type.
Pretty sure I'm not making this up.
But I've had a boozy lunch, so I might be. |  |
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| Apparently on 17:05 - Jun 22 with 782 views | GaryCooper |
| Apparently on 16:38 - Jun 22 by positivity |
if a new variant hits us after the euros, re-opening is a disastrous thing to do |
There will be countless new variants, life has move forward. |  | | |
| Didn't they get the projections..... on 17:08 - Jun 22 with 765 views | 26_Paz |
| Didn't they get the projections..... on 17:05 - Jun 22 by Bloots |
....for the vaccine roll out totally wrong?
Someone typed the wrong figure into the spreadsheet, it was something like 250K per day input when it should have been 450k per day.
So the 19th July was announced based on incorrect data because some work experience kid couldn't type.
Pretty sure I'm not making this up.
But I've had a boozy lunch, so I might be. |
Might not be quite as crude as you suggest but think you’re right some dodgy data was used | |
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| Apparently on 17:12 - Jun 22 with 760 views | wkj |
| Apparently on 16:55 - Jun 22 by hype313 |
So in that scenario given millions of over 18's haven't had their first jab yet, and they want 8 weeks between jabs, then we would well be looking at early September on that hypotheses.
Really can't see that happening on many levels. |
The thing is, the 2nd jabs can be administered as little as 3 weeks after the first if need be. So once all of dose 1 is given, speed of the 2nd doses could absolutely accelerate - which is something they will want to have done before the start of the new school/college year. | |
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| Apparently on 17:16 - Jun 22 with 761 views | Illinoisblue |
Talking of useless, how the hell is Matt Hancock still a thing. Almost every other day video clips of him sparring with the morning TV hosts are on twitter. A strange mix of ignorance and balls-out arrogance. Just today he was claiming a new 200million yacht would “boost trade”. Get to fk. |  |
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| Apparently on 17:25 - Jun 22 with 729 views | positivity |
| Apparently on 17:05 - Jun 22 by GaryCooper |
There will be countless new variants, life has move forward. |
better to move forward slowly than forward-backward-forward-backward.
disastrous for businesses and mental health (let alone all the extra deaths...) | |
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| Apparently on 17:29 - Jun 22 with 719 views | ArnoldMoorhen |
| Apparently on 16:14 - Jun 22 by wkj |
Here in lies where my analogy comes from regarding the current government
'They're like a bunch of substitute teachers being tasked with rewriting the curriculum'
Fundamental changes need to occur in the government, and I am not necessarily saying TORIES OUT! but rather saying this current cabinet are atrocious. The supporters of the Tories must surely be at a point they would need to nominate a leader of stability and pragmatism rather than a group of chancers making it up as they go along. |
The sensible fringe of the Parliamentary Tory Party were purged by text before the last Election. Literally sent a text saying "We've decided we don't want you as the candidate any more"- fired by text.
So Parliament lost the people who had the capability to guide this Government through the pandemic, such as Rory Stewart. | | | |
| Apparently on 17:58 - Jun 22 with 662 views | BanksterDebtSlave |
| Apparently on 16:54 - Jun 22 by BlueBadger |
Sure, it's cost the country trillions, over 150,000 have died, businesses have been devastated, our long term economic prospects have been hamstrung, we're wilfully intent on destroying our good relations with our neighbours, breaking up the union and stoking division and hate crimes with deliberately inflammatory rhetoric, but the important thing is that the libs have been well and truly OWNED.
Which is the most important thing. |
The important thing is that some of their chums are now even more minted than before. |  |
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| Didn't they get the projections..... on 18:10 - Jun 22 with 637 views | chicoazul |
| Didn't they get the projections..... on 17:05 - Jun 22 by Bloots |
....for the vaccine roll out totally wrong?
Someone typed the wrong figure into the spreadsheet, it was something like 250K per day input when it should have been 450k per day.
So the 19th July was announced based on incorrect data because some work experience kid couldn't type.
Pretty sure I'm not making this up.
But I've had a boozy lunch, so I might be. |
Ahaha really?? That’s so dumb it has to be true | |
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| Apparently on 18:33 - Jun 22 with 608 views | m14_blue |
| Apparently on 17:29 - Jun 22 by ArnoldMoorhen |
The sensible fringe of the Parliamentary Tory Party were purged by text before the last Election. Literally sent a text saying "We've decided we don't want you as the candidate any more"- fired by text.
So Parliament lost the people who had the capability to guide this Government through the pandemic, such as Rory Stewart. |
Have you seen Stewart’s interviews from the very start of the pandemic?
How different things could have been with someone like him in charge. | | | |
| Apparently on 18:48 - Jun 22 with 591 views | BlueBadger |
| Apparently on 17:05 - Jun 22 by GaryCooper |
There will be countless new variants, life has move forward. |
'More people need to die so I can stand at a bar' | |
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| Apparently on 18:52 - Jun 22 with 579 views | The_Last_Baron |
| Apparently on 17:29 - Jun 22 by ArnoldMoorhen |
The sensible fringe of the Parliamentary Tory Party were purged by text before the last Election. Literally sent a text saying "We've decided we don't want you as the candidate any more"- fired by text.
So Parliament lost the people who had the capability to guide this Government through the pandemic, such as Rory Stewart. |
Where is Rory??? |  |
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| Apparently on 18:59 - Jun 22 with 569 views | MerseyBlue |
Clearly any decision should be data-driven. This is an extremely important decision for them to get right. If we go too early then cases are inevitably going to rise, from what I remember of nightclubs, they're pretty sweaty breeding grounds for this sort of thing.
What happens if we get to the Autumn and we have to lock down again? They said countless times that this whole latest process is meant to be 'cautious and irreversible' - thereby implying that they won't lockdown again.
If things go badly in the Autumn and they lockdown, they'll lose any crumb of credibility they have with moderate Conservatives who have gone along with it all. If they don't lockdown then the whole situation spirals out of control again.
Better to be happy with the data and err on the side of caution, than go too soon and cause bigger problems down the road in my view. [Post edited 22 Jun 2021 19:00]
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| Apparently on 19:13 - Jun 22 with 541 views | bazza |
| Apparently on 18:48 - Jun 22 by BlueBadger |
'More people need to die so I can stand at a bar' |
I danced with a woman in a bar once , she said you smell nice, what you got
on, I said I’ve got a hard on, but I didn’t realise you could smell it.. |  | | |
| Apparently on 19:18 - Jun 22 with 534 views | ArnoldMoorhen |
| Apparently on 18:33 - Jun 22 by m14_blue |
Have you seen Stewart’s interviews from the very start of the pandemic?
How different things could have been with someone like him in charge. |
Yes. I've posted about them a few times.
It is criminal that somebody like him, who, although a Remainer initially, completely supported May's policies, was thrown aside for daring to look better than Boris in the leadership debates. Tory members have wilfully ignored it every time Boris has completely flouted the basic rules of how their party operates. | | | |
| Apparently on 19:21 - Jun 22 with 517 views | MattinLondon |
| Apparently on 17:58 - Jun 22 by BanksterDebtSlave |
The important thing is that some of their chums are now even more minted than before. |
Some? If you happened to be one of the cabinet members mates you’ll be seriously annoyed if you weren’t given some sort of government contract to add to your bank account. |  | | |
| Apparently on 19:22 - Jun 22 with 517 views | ArnoldMoorhen |
He was deselected as an MP, so instead tried to put together a campaign to be London Mayor, but it all fizzled out.
If he's got any sense he'll do a David Milliband and get himself a nice job in the UN, or as head of Corporate Social Responsibility at a FTSE 100 company.
But I expect Boris to send him as Ambassador to Afghanistan or something. | | | |
| Apparently on 19:26 - Jun 22 with 512 views | Oldboy |
Weightist/Sizeist. Nice. |  | | |
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