| Labour leading a voting opinion poll for the first time in like forever 16:26 - Nov 11 with 7617 views | ElderGrizzly |
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| Labour leading a voting opinion poll for the first time in like forever on 12:27 - Nov 13 with 496 views | Darth_Koont |
“Head of local union gets remuneration package” and “Union invests funds in hotel”.
The stench of bad faith in the Lavery article is quite something. Imagine if that tone and zeal had extended to investigating actual political sleaze over the years? |  |
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| Labour leading a voting opinion poll for the first time in like forever on 12:33 - Nov 13 with 468 views | StokieBlue |
| Labour leading a voting opinion poll for the first time in like forever on 12:27 - Nov 13 by Darth_Koont |
“Head of local union gets remuneration package” and “Union invests funds in hotel”.
The stench of bad faith in the Lavery article is quite something. Imagine if that tone and zeal had extended to investigating actual political sleaze over the years? |
Surely the focus here should be what is in the article rather than how you perceive it to be written and any equivalences to other articles?
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| Labour leading a voting opinion poll for the first time in like forever on 12:37 - Nov 13 with 456 views | Darth_Koont |
| Labour leading a voting opinion poll for the first time in like forever on 12:33 - Nov 13 by StokieBlue |
Surely the focus here should be what is in the article rather than how you perceive it to be written and any equivalences to other articles?
SB [Post edited 13 Nov 2021 12:33]
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I did read them and gave my summaries.
What points do you find particularly troubling? | |
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| Labour leading a voting opinion poll for the first time in like forever on 12:40 - Nov 13 with 448 views | footers |
| Labour leading a voting opinion poll for the first time in like forever on 12:33 - Nov 13 by StokieBlue |
Surely the focus here should be what is in the article rather than how you perceive it to be written and any equivalences to other articles?
SB [Post edited 13 Nov 2021 12:33]
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Facts are one thing and how you present them another. |  |
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| Labour leading a voting opinion poll for the first time in like forever on 12:41 - Nov 13 with 447 views | Darth_Koont |
| Labour leading a voting opinion poll for the first time in like forever on 12:25 - Nov 13 by Herbivore |
And I think you're not keen on your meaningless soundbites being challenged. And I can now see why. |
You can’t be so keen on your own points if you’re arguing the toss over pretty standard concepts. | |
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| Labour leading a voting opinion poll for the first time in like forever on 12:48 - Nov 13 with 423 views | Herbivore |
| Labour leading a voting opinion poll for the first time in like forever on 12:41 - Nov 13 by Darth_Koont |
You can’t be so keen on your own points if you’re arguing the toss over pretty standard concepts. |
It's not really arguing the toss expecting you to have some idea what you're talking about when you throw these buzzwords out there. |  |
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| Labour leading a voting opinion poll for the first time in like forever on 12:53 - Nov 13 with 414 views | Darth_Koont |
| Labour leading a voting opinion poll for the first time in like forever on 12:48 - Nov 13 by Herbivore |
It's not really arguing the toss expecting you to have some idea what you're talking about when you throw these buzzwords out there. |
And I’ve explained exactly what I mean.
Feck me, Herbs. I don’t think you know what you’re even arguing about anymore. I mean you accept the idea of the establishment and you presumably accept the idea of anti-establishment political parties and ideas. What’s so tough to understand about the left-side of that dynamic? | |
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| Labour leading a voting opinion poll for the first time in like forever on 13:31 - Nov 13 with 380 views | Herbivore |
| Labour leading a voting opinion poll for the first time in like forever on 12:53 - Nov 13 by Darth_Koont |
And I’ve explained exactly what I mean.
Feck me, Herbs. I don’t think you know what you’re even arguing about anymore. I mean you accept the idea of the establishment and you presumably accept the idea of anti-establishment political parties and ideas. What’s so tough to understand about the left-side of that dynamic? |
In terms of concrete examples you've given me unions and the Guardian, neither of which would be things that could really be considered part of the establishment, imo. Other than that you seem to be saying "you know the establishment, yeah? Well it's the left side of that". Frankly that tells me very little and doesn't convince me that you have a very clear idea of what you actually mean when you keep trotting out the line about shoring up the left side of the establishment. We'll leave it there as we stopped making any kind of progress several psots back. | |
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| Labour leading a voting opinion poll for the first time in like forever on 13:38 - Nov 13 with 368 views | Darth_Koont |
| Labour leading a voting opinion poll for the first time in like forever on 13:31 - Nov 13 by Herbivore |
In terms of concrete examples you've given me unions and the Guardian, neither of which would be things that could really be considered part of the establishment, imo. Other than that you seem to be saying "you know the establishment, yeah? Well it's the left side of that". Frankly that tells me very little and doesn't convince me that you have a very clear idea of what you actually mean when you keep trotting out the line about shoring up the left side of the establishment. We'll leave it there as we stopped making any kind of progress several psots back. |
Suits me fine.
Utter waste of time. | |
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