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Covid capitalism under the Conservatives 16:45 - Nov 12 with 1414 viewsMullet



If this is remotely true how on earth are these people not in prison?

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Covid capitalism under the Conservatives on 16:47 - Nov 12 with 1375 viewsXYZ

Dame Cressida Dick at their service ...

(see also the Darroch diplomatic cable leaks)
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Covid capitalism under the Conservatives on 16:54 - Nov 12 with 1344 viewsfooters

It's corruption, plain and simple. 'Cronyism' is too nice a word for what these absolute clowns are doing to our country.

That a third of people would still vote for them beggars belief.

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Covid capitalism under the Conservatives on 16:58 - Nov 12 with 1324 viewstractordownsouth

Covid capitalism under the Conservatives on 16:54 - Nov 12 by footers

It's corruption, plain and simple. 'Cronyism' is too nice a word for what these absolute clowns are doing to our country.

That a third of people would still vote for them beggars belief.


Ridiculous that the people in government making these decisions to throw money around like confetti are the same ones who have spent much of the last decade preaching financial prudency and the need for public spending to be cut.

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Covid capitalism under the Conservatives on 16:59 - Nov 12 with 1321 viewsStokieBlue

So if we look at the first line then given their contracts are entirely testing which didn't exist pre-covid and their profits have increased from 1m to 180m they could have charged 50% less for testing and still made an absolutely massive ~90m profit.

It's profiteering combined with corruption.

Even worse, it's profiteering off the back of a pandemic which has cost more than a hundred thousand lives.

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Covid capitalism under the Conservatives on 17:44 - Nov 12 with 1243 viewsStokieBlue

As a small aside, Geoffrey Cox must have hated staying here for free:

https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2021/nov/12/revealed-geoffrey-cox-british-v

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Covid capitalism under the Conservatives on 17:59 - Nov 12 with 1208 viewsSwansea_Blue

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Covid capitalism under the Conservatives on 18:22 - Nov 12 with 1188 viewsBlueBadger

Yes, BUT the LABOUR party.
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I'm one of the people who was blamed for getting Paul Cook sacked. PM for the full post.
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Covid capitalism under the Conservatives on 18:42 - Nov 12 with 1147 viewsTimefliesbyintheblue

Covid capitalism under the Conservatives on 16:54 - Nov 12 by footers

It's corruption, plain and simple. 'Cronyism' is too nice a word for what these absolute clowns are doing to our country.

That a third of people would still vote for them beggars belief.


If you spend as much time on social media as a lot of you folk, you are bound to have a different view of what goes on.
In our real world if there was a general election tomorrow it is perfectly understandable why a third of people would still vote for 'them'.
Hopefully (and yes believe what you wish), this will change over the next couple of years. To win voters back though, there needs to be more respect for why they left, less criticism of the opponents with more time spent on policies and objectives and finally of course bringing all factions of the party together.
Lecture, abuse, criticise us who deserted labour all you like, it will not wash with voters until the above criteria is met.
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Covid capitalism under the Conservatives on 18:46 - Nov 12 with 1132 viewsfooters

Covid capitalism under the Conservatives on 18:42 - Nov 12 by Timefliesbyintheblue

If you spend as much time on social media as a lot of you folk, you are bound to have a different view of what goes on.
In our real world if there was a general election tomorrow it is perfectly understandable why a third of people would still vote for 'them'.
Hopefully (and yes believe what you wish), this will change over the next couple of years. To win voters back though, there needs to be more respect for why they left, less criticism of the opponents with more time spent on policies and objectives and finally of course bringing all factions of the party together.
Lecture, abuse, criticise us who deserted labour all you like, it will not wash with voters until the above criteria is met.



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Covid capitalism under the Conservatives on 18:49 - Nov 12 with 1123 viewsMullet

Covid capitalism under the Conservatives on 18:42 - Nov 12 by Timefliesbyintheblue

If you spend as much time on social media as a lot of you folk, you are bound to have a different view of what goes on.
In our real world if there was a general election tomorrow it is perfectly understandable why a third of people would still vote for 'them'.
Hopefully (and yes believe what you wish), this will change over the next couple of years. To win voters back though, there needs to be more respect for why they left, less criticism of the opponents with more time spent on policies and objectives and finally of course bringing all factions of the party together.
Lecture, abuse, criticise us who deserted labour all you like, it will not wash with voters until the above criteria is met.


So your decency doesn’t extend beyond “don’t point out my faults, mistakes or gullibility”? The fact you keep making out that lecturing, abuse etc is some sort of “lefty” trait is very telling, you never condemn anything or anyone else it seems except people outraged by corruption, racism, homophobia from the cloak of manners.

Like Rees-Mogg you might think this shields you from criticism, but in fact it shows up how hollow supporting this sort of stuff makes you.

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Covid capitalism under the Conservatives on 18:52 - Nov 12 with 1100 viewsfooters

Covid capitalism under the Conservatives on 18:49 - Nov 12 by Mullet

So your decency doesn’t extend beyond “don’t point out my faults, mistakes or gullibility”? The fact you keep making out that lecturing, abuse etc is some sort of “lefty” trait is very telling, you never condemn anything or anyone else it seems except people outraged by corruption, racism, homophobia from the cloak of manners.

Like Rees-Mogg you might think this shields you from criticism, but in fact it shows up how hollow supporting this sort of stuff makes you.


Indeed.

We already have one lowhouse to do this routine. A tribute act wasn't really needed.

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Covid capitalism under the Conservatives on 19:05 - Nov 12 with 1072 viewsNthQldITFC

Covid capitalism under the Conservatives on 16:54 - Nov 12 by footers

It's corruption, plain and simple. 'Cronyism' is too nice a word for what these absolute clowns are doing to our country.

That a third of people would still vote for them beggars belief.


I don't have a problem with people voting for them per se, it's just that without any form of meaningful legal accountability, there are so many of the pigs free to roam the streets looking for the next exploitable trough that an unfortunately large number are bound to stand for and be elected by what passes for our democratic system.

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Covid capitalism under the Conservatives on 19:14 - Nov 12 with 1044 viewsHerbivore

Covid capitalism under the Conservatives on 18:42 - Nov 12 by Timefliesbyintheblue

If you spend as much time on social media as a lot of you folk, you are bound to have a different view of what goes on.
In our real world if there was a general election tomorrow it is perfectly understandable why a third of people would still vote for 'them'.
Hopefully (and yes believe what you wish), this will change over the next couple of years. To win voters back though, there needs to be more respect for why they left, less criticism of the opponents with more time spent on policies and objectives and finally of course bringing all factions of the party together.
Lecture, abuse, criticise us who deserted labour all you like, it will not wash with voters until the above criteria is met.


Yes, clearly it's everyone else's fault you voted for a party led by a racist and homophobe, who has moulded a party in his own image with all the moral fibre of a soggy digestive biscuit. Take some responsibility and stop pointing at everyone else to try and ease your conscience. Nobody made you vote for the worst government and worst PM we've ever had, you did so willingly.

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Covid capitalism under the Conservatives on 19:15 - Nov 12 with 1042 viewsXYZ

Covid capitalism under the Conservatives on 19:05 - Nov 12 by NthQldITFC

I don't have a problem with people voting for them per se, it's just that without any form of meaningful legal accountability, there are so many of the pigs free to roam the streets looking for the next exploitable trough that an unfortunately large number are bound to stand for and be elected by what passes for our democratic system.


... and if the voters don't elect them, well they'll be put in the Lords if the price is right!
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Covid capitalism under the Conservatives on 19:20 - Nov 12 with 1023 viewsHerbivore

Covid capitalism under the Conservatives on 19:15 - Nov 12 by XYZ

... and if the voters don't elect them, well they'll be put in the Lords if the price is right!


Doesn't Johnson's government currently have three unelected ministers? Morgan, Goldsmith, and Frost I think. Not sure if there are others.

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Covid capitalism under the Conservatives on 22:06 - Nov 12 with 876 viewstractordownsouth

Covid capitalism under the Conservatives on 19:20 - Nov 12 by Herbivore

Doesn't Johnson's government currently have three unelected ministers? Morgan, Goldsmith, and Frost I think. Not sure if there are others.


I’m convinced Morgan was given a peerage purely in exchange for having to do the ridiculous “50 thousand more nurses” routine on GMB during the last election.

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Covid capitalism under the Conservatives on 22:48 - Nov 12 with 802 viewsXYZ

Covid capitalism under the Conservatives on 22:06 - Nov 12 by tractordownsouth

I’m convinced Morgan was given a peerage purely in exchange for having to do the ridiculous “50 thousand more nurses” routine on GMB during the last election.


Probably got some kompromat on Johnson.
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Covid capitalism under the Conservatives on 16:17 - Nov 13 with 613 viewsBlueBadger

Covid capitalism under the Conservatives on 18:42 - Nov 12 by Timefliesbyintheblue

If you spend as much time on social media as a lot of you folk, you are bound to have a different view of what goes on.
In our real world if there was a general election tomorrow it is perfectly understandable why a third of people would still vote for 'them'.
Hopefully (and yes believe what you wish), this will change over the next couple of years. To win voters back though, there needs to be more respect for why they left, less criticism of the opponents with more time spent on policies and objectives and finally of course bringing all factions of the party together.
Lecture, abuse, criticise us who deserted labour all you like, it will not wash with voters until the above criteria is met.


What exactly about the openly bigoted, corrupt and incompetent Boris Johnson is it that appeals to you?

I'm one of the people who was blamed for getting Paul Cook sacked. PM for the full post.
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Covid capitalism under the Conservatives on 16:45 - Nov 13 with 579 viewsSwansea_Blue

Covid capitalism under the Conservatives on 18:42 - Nov 12 by Timefliesbyintheblue

If you spend as much time on social media as a lot of you folk, you are bound to have a different view of what goes on.
In our real world if there was a general election tomorrow it is perfectly understandable why a third of people would still vote for 'them'.
Hopefully (and yes believe what you wish), this will change over the next couple of years. To win voters back though, there needs to be more respect for why they left, less criticism of the opponents with more time spent on policies and objectives and finally of course bringing all factions of the party together.
Lecture, abuse, criticise us who deserted labour all you like, it will not wash with voters until the above criteria is met.


You're struggling with your double standards by the looks of it. If you want more respect for the voters (or anyone in the UK except their funders), less criticism of any opposition, more time spent on policies, and less division, you really don't want to be batting for Johnson's government.

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Covid capitalism under the Conservatives on 16:54 - Nov 13 with 562 viewsNthsuffolkblue

Isn't the bigger issue that there could easily be a list drawn up of companies that have supplied nothing useful for the pandemic nor Brexit provision and yet have received equally large sums from the Government for winning contracts to do so? If the correlation was added to show Tory party donations, MP directorships, family member major shareholdings etc, then the real corruption would be obvious.

Your complaint is against profiteering from misery/misfortune/the pandemic. That, unfortunately, is a big part of capitalism. There is a much bigger argument about obvious corruption.

EDIT: Thought some of that might need some references:
https://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/covid-ppe-contract-conservative-d
https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2019/feb/09/government-cancels-brexit-ferry
https://www.ft.com/content/93036435-45df-4883-b5d3-86ab96ca20e8
https://labour.org.uk/press/crony-covid-contracts-hit-3-5bn-of-taxpayers-money/
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Covid capitalism under the Conservatives on 16:57 - Nov 13 with 551 viewsStokieBlue

Covid capitalism under the Conservatives on 18:42 - Nov 12 by Timefliesbyintheblue

If you spend as much time on social media as a lot of you folk, you are bound to have a different view of what goes on.
In our real world if there was a general election tomorrow it is perfectly understandable why a third of people would still vote for 'them'.
Hopefully (and yes believe what you wish), this will change over the next couple of years. To win voters back though, there needs to be more respect for why they left, less criticism of the opponents with more time spent on policies and objectives and finally of course bringing all factions of the party together.
Lecture, abuse, criticise us who deserted labour all you like, it will not wash with voters until the above criteria is met.


"with more time spent on policies"

Labours manifesto had the most policies in that anyone has ever seen yet you've criticised the time spent on policies and used it as a reason why you voted Tory.

Rather than calling out others, I think it might be you who is rather confused here.

SB
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Covid capitalism under the Conservatives on 17:03 - Nov 13 with 517 viewsNthsuffolkblue

Covid capitalism under the Conservatives on 16:57 - Nov 13 by StokieBlue

"with more time spent on policies"

Labours manifesto had the most policies in that anyone has ever seen yet you've criticised the time spent on policies and used it as a reason why you voted Tory.

Rather than calling out others, I think it might be you who is rather confused here.

SB
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The truth is Government is won by popular slogans more than by policies. This Government's "Get Brexit done" was highly successful. What they will come up with to capture the vote from those who see what they have done time will tell but you can be sure they will be working hard on it. Hopefully it will be more akin to "strong and stable".

Labour should be looking at something like "using taxpayer money to benefit all not Tory party donors and MPs"! It needs to be more catchy, though. Maybe "NHS and education" like the old "education, education, education".

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Covid capitalism under the Conservatives on 17:08 - Nov 13 with 485 viewsSwansea_Blue

Covid capitalism under the Conservatives on 16:57 - Nov 13 by StokieBlue

"with more time spent on policies"

Labours manifesto had the most policies in that anyone has ever seen yet you've criticised the time spent on policies and used it as a reason why you voted Tory.

Rather than calling out others, I think it might be you who is rather confused here.

SB
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it's an utterly deluded post. I genuinely can't think of a government that's had less respect for the population, has done more to smear or gaslight opponents, spends less time addressing needed policies, and is less divided (the most harmful own political decision in many generations, Brexit, is all a consequence of party division after all).

It's absolute fanboy bollox.

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Covid capitalism under the Conservatives on 17:16 - Nov 13 with 470 viewsjaykay

Covid capitalism under the Conservatives on 18:42 - Nov 12 by Timefliesbyintheblue

If you spend as much time on social media as a lot of you folk, you are bound to have a different view of what goes on.
In our real world if there was a general election tomorrow it is perfectly understandable why a third of people would still vote for 'them'.
Hopefully (and yes believe what you wish), this will change over the next couple of years. To win voters back though, there needs to be more respect for why they left, less criticism of the opponents with more time spent on policies and objectives and finally of course bringing all factions of the party together.
Lecture, abuse, criticise us who deserted labour all you like, it will not wash with voters until the above criteria is met.


a little whiff of hamstead coming through here

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