| Good omicron news 20:58 - Nov 30 with 2720 views | ElderGrizzly |
Based on provisional studies in Israel
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| Good omicron news on 22:20 - Nov 30 with 2495 views | StokieBlue |
Excellent news if true.
I am surprised they are putting out data so early and he stresses it's preliminary about 5 times. Do you know where the underlying paper is as they only have 4 cases in Israel which seems a very small sample to draw any conclusions (they say they have included SA cases as well).
They also say it's 1.3 times more transmissible than Delta and that the unvaccinated have a 2.4 times more likely to develop serious symptoms than original covid which definitely hasn't been said anywhere else. In this case "unvaccinated" means anyone without a booster - 2 doses counts as unvaccinated.
Get your boosters people.
SB [Post edited 30 Nov 2021 22:23]
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| Good omicron news on 22:31 - Nov 30 with 2433 views | GlasgowBlue |
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| Good omicron news on 22:33 - Nov 30 with 2423 views | StokieBlue |
| Good omicron news on 22:31 - Nov 30 by GlasgowBlue |
Any data on AZ? |
Israel didn't use AZ.
I would wait for a more detailed study, the sample size here seems very small. Most scientists are saying 2 weeks.
The one take from it is to get your booster ASAP.
SB [Post edited 30 Nov 2021 22:34]
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| Good omicron news on 22:36 - Nov 30 with 2380 views | GlasgowBlue |
| Good omicron news on 22:33 - Nov 30 by StokieBlue |
Israel didn't use AZ.
I would wait for a more detailed study, the sample size here seems very small. Most scientists are saying 2 weeks.
The one take from it is to get your booster ASAP.
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My booster is in 8 days time with the wife being a week later. | |
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| Good omicron news on 22:50 - Nov 30 with 2340 views | StokieBlue |
| Good omicron news on 22:36 - Nov 30 by GlasgowBlue |
My booster is in 8 days time with the wife being a week later. |
Excellent news.
The analogy I heard and I like in the case that Omicron reduces immunity (which seems likely now) was the following:
Imagine you have an army armed with machine guns. Someone then comes along and replaces those machine guns with muskets. Your soldiers are still OK but far less effective than before. You then recruit some more soldiers (your booster giving you more antibodies) and whilst these new soldiers are still armed with muskets you now have more soldiers and thus they can still be effective as an army.
At least effective enough to provide protection over winter until a tweaked vaccine can come along.
Get your boosters people.
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| Good omicron news on 23:19 - Nov 30 with 2225 views | factual_blue |
| Good omicron news on 22:50 - Nov 30 by StokieBlue |
Excellent news.
The analogy I heard and I like in the case that Omicron reduces immunity (which seems likely now) was the following:
Imagine you have an army armed with machine guns. Someone then comes along and replaces those machine guns with muskets. Your soldiers are still OK but far less effective than before. You then recruit some more soldiers (your booster giving you more antibodies) and whilst these new soldiers are still armed with muskets you now have more soldiers and thus they can still be effective as an army.
At least effective enough to provide protection over winter until a tweaked vaccine can come along.
Get your boosters people.
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| Good omicron news on 07:37 - Dec 1 with 1960 views | BanksterDebtSlave |
| Good omicron news on 22:50 - Nov 30 by StokieBlue |
Excellent news.
The analogy I heard and I like in the case that Omicron reduces immunity (which seems likely now) was the following:
Imagine you have an army armed with machine guns. Someone then comes along and replaces those machine guns with muskets. Your soldiers are still OK but far less effective than before. You then recruit some more soldiers (your booster giving you more antibodies) and whilst these new soldiers are still armed with muskets you now have more soldiers and thus they can still be effective as an army.
At least effective enough to provide protection over winter until a tweaked vaccine can come along.
Get your boosters people.
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You had these when you were little didn't you!
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| Good omicron news on 07:42 - Dec 1 with 1951 views | hype313 |
| Good omicron news on 22:20 - Nov 30 by StokieBlue |
Excellent news if true.
I am surprised they are putting out data so early and he stresses it's preliminary about 5 times. Do you know where the underlying paper is as they only have 4 cases in Israel which seems a very small sample to draw any conclusions (they say they have included SA cases as well).
They also say it's 1.3 times more transmissible than Delta and that the unvaccinated have a 2.4 times more likely to develop serious symptoms than original covid which definitely hasn't been said anywhere else. In this case "unvaccinated" means anyone without a booster - 2 doses counts as unvaccinated.
Get your boosters people.
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That's extremely concerning if so, essentially my second dose in July has left me vunerable until January.
Edit - within 6 months, which takes me to January, so should be ok [Post edited 1 Dec 2021 7:47]
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| Good omicron news on 10:22 - Dec 1 with 1760 views | ElderGrizzly |
| Good omicron news on 22:20 - Nov 30 by StokieBlue |
Excellent news if true.
I am surprised they are putting out data so early and he stresses it's preliminary about 5 times. Do you know where the underlying paper is as they only have 4 cases in Israel which seems a very small sample to draw any conclusions (they say they have included SA cases as well).
They also say it's 1.3 times more transmissible than Delta and that the unvaccinated have a 2.4 times more likely to develop serious symptoms than original covid which definitely hasn't been said anywhere else. In this case "unvaccinated" means anyone without a booster - 2 doses counts as unvaccinated.
Get your boosters people.
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I'm not sure. He hadn't tweeted the link when I last looked but he/she has been a very reliable source throughout.
Agree it is very early, but Israel wouldn't come our publicly without some level of confidence.
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| Good omicron news on 10:44 - Dec 1 with 1715 views | SWLondonBlue93 |
| Good omicron news on 07:42 - Dec 1 by hype313 |
That's extremely concerning if so, essentially my second dose in July has left me vunerable until January.
Edit - within 6 months, which takes me to January, so should be ok [Post edited 1 Dec 2021 7:47]
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Yep the first quote implies a second dose within last six months should provide good protection. Although of course people should get their booster if eligible. |  | | |
| Good omicron news on 10:55 - Dec 1 with 1682 views | J2BLUE |
Potentially positive Covid news from EG.
I must be dreaming!
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| Good omicron news on 11:01 - Dec 1 with 1664 views | belgablue |
| Good omicron news on 07:37 - Dec 1 by BanksterDebtSlave |
You had these when you were little didn't you!
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Didn’t everyone?
Looking forward to my booster invite which is hopefully imminent. |  |
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| Good omicron news on 11:04 - Dec 1 with 1644 views | GeoffSentence |
| Good omicron news on 07:37 - Dec 1 by BanksterDebtSlave |
You had these when you were little didn't you!
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| Good omicron news on 11:11 - Dec 1 with 1619 views | Pippin1970 |
Omicron is the worst Transformer ever. | | | |
| Good omicron news on 11:34 - Dec 1 with 1552 views | ElderGrizzly |
| Good omicron news on 10:55 - Dec 1 by J2BLUE |
Potentially positive Covid news from EG.
I must be dreaming!
*runs out naked into the street* |
:)
As i've said before, my views are based on impact I see in work too.
Same as our resident medical expert BB, it's hard to find positives too often with the feck ups from this Government | | | |
| Good omicron news on 11:53 - Dec 1 with 1488 views | J2BLUE |
| Good omicron news on 11:34 - Dec 1 by ElderGrizzly |
:)
As i've said before, my views are based on impact I see in work too.
Same as our resident medical expert BB, it's hard to find positives too often with the feck ups from this Government |
Yea I watched BJ's press conference yesterday as he went through his act and just thought what a bunch of utter cretins we have 'leading' us. Let's hope this truly isn't as serious as feared as no doubt he will refuse to act until Christmas Eve.
Each to their own but how anyone can vote for them at the next election I really don't know. | |
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| Good omicron news on 13:07 - Dec 1 with 1399 views | BanksterDebtSlave |
| Good omicron news on 11:01 - Dec 1 by belgablue |
Didn’t everyone?
Looking forward to my booster invite which is hopefully imminent. |
And wooden blocks and a bag of marbles to throw at them. | |
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| Good omicron news on 14:05 - Dec 1 with 1288 views | The_Major |
| Good omicron news on 11:53 - Dec 1 by J2BLUE |
Yea I watched BJ's press conference yesterday as he went through his act and just thought what a bunch of utter cretins we have 'leading' us. Let's hope this truly isn't as serious as feared as no doubt he will refuse to act until Christmas Eve.
Each to their own but how anyone can vote for them at the next election I really don't know. |
"Because he got Brexit done, and he's a right larf. What a ledge!" |  | | |
| Good omicron news on 15:48 - Dec 1 with 1207 views | GlasgowBlue |
More promising news with a hint of caution.
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| Good omicron news on 16:43 - Dec 1 with 1090 views | bluelagos |
| Good omicron news on 15:48 - Dec 1 by GlasgowBlue |
More promising news with a hint of caution.
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Presser here for anyone dedicated enough:
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| Good omicron news on 16:51 - Dec 1 with 1042 views | leitrimblue |
Gutted! Read title quickly an was expecting some good unicorn news |  | | |
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