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Refusing to self isolate 08:48 - Dec 1 with 3161 viewsGeoffSentence

I know someone who has tested positive for covid, she has been told by test and trace to self isolate but is refusing to do so because she has a spa session booked in Bath in a few days time and does not want to miss that.

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Refusing to self isolate on 10:16 - Dec 1 with 760 viewsElderGrizzly

Phone the Spa and let them know...

Edit: now seen the twist. FFS Geoff.

Still it is a concern we see with people travelling and Covid recovery certificates vs negative tests. Some countries simply won't accept them whatever our guidelines here.
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Now for the whole story on 10:28 - Dec 1 with 734 viewsGeoffSentence

Now for the whole story on 09:57 - Dec 1 by galacticoblue

Not saying you are wrong but would like the gov confirmation on this.
So basically if I contracted COVID I would not be able to got do international travel, go to the office or other environments that require negative tests for at least 2 months.
There is no guidance from my workplace on this.


What type of test is required for international travel? PCR tests will still show positive for a period of time after recovering from Covid, Lateral Flow tests won't. My son and daughter have both just recovered and lat flow tests were showing as negative the day before their period of self-isolation ended.

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Now for the whole story on 10:36 - Dec 1 with 712 viewsElderGrizzly

Now for the whole story on 10:05 - Dec 1 by Herbivore

Speak to your workplace, they should be aware of this issue. I think you can get some sort of certification to show you've recently had Covid in lieu of being able to provide a negative PCR in the weeks that follow.

Edit - actually as Geoff has pointed out the window is actually 90 days after a positive PCR test.
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Covered on another post later on.

You can get a Covid Recovery Certificate, but a lot of countries won't accept them. So if you need a PCR result you are stuffed basically
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Now for the whole story on 10:39 - Dec 1 with 703 viewsThe_Flashing_Smile

Now for the whole story on 09:19 - Dec 1 by GeoffSentence

With sincere apologies to those who have responded. I did this to illustrate how easy it is to get hold of the wrong end of the stick when only some of the facts are known, and why I so despise The Daily Mail et al, who do exactly that for maximum shock effect.

Everything in the OP was true.

But there is more.

She has recently recovered from a bout of Covid and was told not to do a PCR test for 90 days as it would show up as positive even though she was no longer infectious.

A few days later she was asked to do a PCR test for research purposes, which being a civic minded person she agreed to.

As expected the test came back positive.

What she hadn't expected was that, given the circumstances, the research people would report that result to Test and Trace and that test and trace would contact her to tell her that she had to self isolate.

In better news, having been on the phone to Test and Trace for 2 hours this morning and having the 'isolate' instruction confirmed, she was advised to call 119 as she was disputing it. She has now been advised that she has to email evidence that it was for research purposes, then she will be exempt from self-isolation.

Once more, apologies to all those I misled by omission.


To be fair to us, in your OP you said the reason she's refusing to isolate is because she has a spa session booked, not "because she's not actually infectious and it's an error." That's a pretty major chunk to leave out.

It might as well have been "she's refusing to isolate because she's a dog and doesn't understand the concept of isolation!"

I guess your avatar was a clue.

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Now for the whole story on 10:41 - Dec 1 with 697 viewsGeoffSentence

Now for the whole story on 10:39 - Dec 1 by The_Flashing_Smile

To be fair to us, in your OP you said the reason she's refusing to isolate is because she has a spa session booked, not "because she's not actually infectious and it's an error." That's a pretty major chunk to leave out.

It might as well have been "she's refusing to isolate because she's a dog and doesn't understand the concept of isolation!"

I guess your avatar was a clue.


Oh yes, I agree. The omissions were major and not at all fair to anyone reading. That was intentional.

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Refusing to self isolate on 10:48 - Dec 1 with 665 viewsJDB23

Never knew about the likelihood of a positive result for 90 days after recovery. Does that mean potentially you could get re-infected within that 90 day period, not have any symptoms because your immune system is now better at fighting the disease but could be going around infecting people because it’s thought you have a false positive as it were? Probably an unlikely scenario even if possible.
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Refusing to self isolate on 10:55 - Dec 1 with 649 viewsGeoffSentence

Refusing to self isolate on 10:48 - Dec 1 by JDB23

Never knew about the likelihood of a positive result for 90 days after recovery. Does that mean potentially you could get re-infected within that 90 day period, not have any symptoms because your immune system is now better at fighting the disease but could be going around infecting people because it’s thought you have a false positive as it were? Probably an unlikely scenario even if possible.


I would guess that it is possible. More so now that the omicron variant is going round, there are warnings that it increases the likelihood of re-infection.

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Now for the whole story on 10:59 - Dec 1 with 640 viewsThe_Flashing_Smile

Now for the whole story on 10:41 - Dec 1 by GeoffSentence

Oh yes, I agree. The omissions were major and not at all fair to anyone reading. That was intentional.


Either way I think she should pass her spa session over to me, just to be safe.

Trust the process. Trust Phil.

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Now for the whole story on 11:10 - Dec 1 with 617 viewsclive_baker

Now for the whole story on 10:39 - Dec 1 by The_Flashing_Smile

To be fair to us, in your OP you said the reason she's refusing to isolate is because she has a spa session booked, not "because she's not actually infectious and it's an error." That's a pretty major chunk to leave out.

It might as well have been "she's refusing to isolate because she's a dog and doesn't understand the concept of isolation!"

I guess your avatar was a clue.


He did.

He's a very convincing Daily Fail I must say, really got into role :)

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Refusing to self isolate on 11:38 - Dec 1 with 585 viewsRyorry

Got to say well done Geoff - I was about to be seriously annoyed at her, then at you for pulling the wool - but in fact that really is an excellent, salutory lesson in why never to make instant, superficial judgements about people and their actions before knowing the context & being in possession of all the facts 👍

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Refusing to self isolate on 11:43 - Dec 1 with 562 viewsGeoffSentence

Refusing to self isolate on 11:38 - Dec 1 by Ryorry

Got to say well done Geoff - I was about to be seriously annoyed at her, then at you for pulling the wool - but in fact that really is an excellent, salutory lesson in why never to make instant, superficial judgements about people and their actions before knowing the context & being in possession of all the facts 👍


That was precisely my intention.

Thank you for getting it.

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Refusing to self isolate on 11:44 - Dec 1 with 556 viewsfooters

Refusing to self isolate on 11:43 - Dec 1 by GeoffSentence

That was precisely my intention.

Thank you for getting it.


You've lost my trust completely over this.

I'm sure you'll cope somehow, but just letting you know.

Hrmph.

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Refusing to self isolate on 11:46 - Dec 1 with 543 viewsGeoffSentence

Refusing to self isolate on 11:44 - Dec 1 by footers

You've lost my trust completely over this.

I'm sure you'll cope somehow, but just letting you know.

Hrmph.


Actually footers, I am not sure how I will cope. Losing the trust of someone I admire and respect will haunt me for a long time.

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Refusing to self isolate on 11:48 - Dec 1 with 535 viewsfooters

Refusing to self isolate on 11:46 - Dec 1 by GeoffSentence

Actually footers, I am not sure how I will cope. Losing the trust of someone I admire and respect will haunt me for a long time.


Sure I'll simmer down over lunch.

But you had us all eating out of the palm of your hand. Masterful. GG.

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Refusing to self isolate on 11:51 - Dec 1 with 529 viewsGeoffSentence

Refusing to self isolate on 11:48 - Dec 1 by footers

Sure I'll simmer down over lunch.

But you had us all eating out of the palm of your hand. Masterful. GG.


The thing is, that is how a lot of ne'er do wells work. They pluck at our emotions to get the reaction they want, and they don't even have to lie to do it, just pick and choose the bits they tell us.

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Now for the whole story on 11:59 - Dec 1 with 511 viewsTractorCam

Now for the whole story on 09:57 - Dec 1 by galacticoblue

Not saying you are wrong but would like the gov confirmation on this.
So basically if I contracted COVID I would not be able to got do international travel, go to the office or other environments that require negative tests for at least 2 months.
There is no guidance from my workplace on this.


You can travel if you can prove you've recovered from COVID if had it within the 90 days.

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Now for the whole story on 12:06 - Dec 1 with 494 viewsurbanblue

Now for the whole story on 11:59 - Dec 1 by TractorCam

You can travel if you can prove you've recovered from COVID if had it within the 90 days.


If you are still testing positive what criteria is used to judge that you have recovered? I'm sure I have heard regularly of positive cases having to isolate until a negative test.

On saying that there have also heard of positive cases that have been told they are not infectious as they are 'shedding.

All quite confusing ...
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Refusing to self isolate on 12:42 - Dec 1 with 444 viewsPlums

Refusing to self isolate on 11:51 - Dec 1 by GeoffSentence

The thing is, that is how a lot of ne'er do wells work. They pluck at our emotions to get the reaction they want, and they don't even have to lie to do it, just pick and choose the bits they tell us.


This thread is a tremendous piece of work and should be on the curriculum across the land.

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Now for the whole story on 12:49 - Dec 1 with 431 viewsgalacticoblue

Now for the whole story on 11:59 - Dec 1 by TractorCam

You can travel if you can prove you've recovered from COVID if had it within the 90 days.


Yes apparently! When travelling to a country though I guess it’s down to if the country accepts the nhs exception certificate or not, and vice versa (UK acceptance of another countries exceptions).
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Now for the whole story on 12:56 - Dec 1 with 422 viewsgalacticoblue

Now for the whole story on 12:06 - Dec 1 by urbanblue

If you are still testing positive what criteria is used to judge that you have recovered? I'm sure I have heard regularly of positive cases having to isolate until a negative test.

On saying that there have also heard of positive cases that have been told they are not infectious as they are 'shedding.

All quite confusing ...


Am with you there!
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