| The most interesting thing 11:31 - Dec 20 with 3229 views | chicoazul |
About this article is it mentions 68% of top flight footballers have been double vaxxed
That’s almost exactly the same % as have been for the total UK population
And yet it now seems premier league footballers are the latest scapegoats for any possible rise in infections and therefor cancellation of fixtures
Chelsea boss Thomas Tuchel: Not postponing games over Covid-19 is a safety risk
Edit: ugh why don’t the bbc let you paste a link from their app [Post edited 20 Dec 2021 11:35]
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| The most interesting thing on 11:34 - Dec 20 with 2592 views | RamRob |
It is a bit annoying when the club's want 100% of fans coming into the grounds to be fully vaxxed but the players themselves don't have to be. |  |
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| The most interesting thing on 11:38 - Dec 20 with 2548 views | chicoazul |
“shown as a percentage of the population aged 12 and over“ | |
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| The most interesting thing on 11:40 - Dec 20 with 2543 views | StokieBlue |
I think that stat is rather misleading because that 68% includes 12-15 year olds who have only been able to get their second vaccination from today.
If you compare adult population to footballers then it's 68% to over 80%.
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| The most interesting thing on 11:40 - Dec 20 with 2518 views | BlueySwede |
No excuse for footballers or "regular people" to not be double vaccinated. Also, I read 59% of the footballers in another article somewhere. Surely the clubs must do everything they can to get their players vaccinated? |  | | |
| The most interesting thing on 11:41 - Dec 20 with 2491 views | Guthrum |
| The most interesting thing on 11:38 - Dec 20 by chicoazul |
“shown as a percentage of the population aged 12 and over“ |
How many professional footballers are aged under 12? |  |
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| The most interesting thing on 11:54 - Dec 20 with 2400 views | Sharkey |
| The most interesting thing on 11:41 - Dec 20 by Guthrum |
How many professional footballers are aged under 12? |
I don't know, but Chelsea will have sent most of them out on loan. |  | | |
| The most interesting thing on 11:55 - Dec 20 with 2394 views | chicoazul |
| The most interesting thing on 11:41 - Dec 20 by Guthrum |
How many professional footballers are aged under 12? |
What? I think you need to read my OP again. | |
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| The most interesting thing on 11:59 - Dec 20 with 2384 views | chicoazul |
| The most interesting thing on 11:40 - Dec 20 by StokieBlue |
I think that stat is rather misleading because that 68% includes 12-15 year olds who have only been able to get their second vaccination from today.
If you compare adult population to footballers then it's 68% to over 80%.
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Why are so many people confused by this? I said the % number of PL footballers who have been double jabbed is almost exactly the same as the % number of the total population of the country who have been double jabbed. | |
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| The most interesting thing on 12:00 - Dec 20 with 2369 views | StokieBlue |
| The most interesting thing on 11:59 - Dec 20 by chicoazul |
Why are so many people confused by this? I said the % number of PL footballers who have been double jabbed is almost exactly the same as the % number of the total population of the country who have been double jabbed. |
It's a clearly unfair comparison though because one side of the equation includes cohorts who aren't eligible to be double vaccinated.
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| The most interesting thing on 12:07 - Dec 20 with 2326 views | Swansea_Blue |
| The most interesting thing on 11:41 - Dec 20 by Guthrum |
How many professional footballers are aged under 12? |
Jay Tabb? |  |
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| The most interesting thing on 12:08 - Dec 20 with 2322 views | clive_baker |
| The most interesting thing on 11:59 - Dec 20 by chicoazul |
Why are so many people confused by this? I said the % number of PL footballers who have been double jabbed is almost exactly the same as the % number of the total population of the country who have been double jabbed. |
Vaccine takeup is 68% higher among footballers than when compared to babies. |  |
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| The most interesting thing on 12:18 - Dec 20 with 2265 views | Swansea_Blue |
| The most interesting thing on 11:59 - Dec 20 by chicoazul |
Why are so many people confused by this? I said the % number of PL footballers who have been double jabbed is almost exactly the same as the % number of the total population of the country who have been double jabbed. |
Nobody's confused. They're just pointing out that it's a meaningless comparison. | |
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| Chico's not actually wrong, if you dig deeper. on 12:21 - Dec 20 with 2255 views | Guthrum |
| The most interesting thing on 11:55 - Dec 20 by chicoazul |
What? I think you need to read my OP again. |
But that's comparing apples with oranges. Declaring the percentages to be equivalent is not an accurate representation of the situation. Professional footballers (all adults) are clearly double-vaccinated at a lower rate than the UK adult population.
However, if you look only at the percentages for males in the 18-35 age bracket in England - to which professional footballers mostly belong - it does support your original point, as the figures to 12th December 2021 (averages from three columns in the original graph) comes out at 68.47%.
Top "weekly data" (16th Dec) link, 7th graph down: https://www.england.nhs.uk/statistics/statistical-work-areas/covid-19-vaccinatio
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| Chico's not actually wrong, if you dig deeper. on 13:14 - Dec 20 with 2165 views | chicoazul |
| Chico's not actually wrong, if you dig deeper. on 12:21 - Dec 20 by Guthrum |
But that's comparing apples with oranges. Declaring the percentages to be equivalent is not an accurate representation of the situation. Professional footballers (all adults) are clearly double-vaccinated at a lower rate than the UK adult population.
However, if you look only at the percentages for males in the 18-35 age bracket in England - to which professional footballers mostly belong - it does support your original point, as the figures to 12th December 2021 (averages from three columns in the original graph) comes out at 68.47%.
Top "weekly data" (16th Dec) link, 7th graph down: https://www.england.nhs.uk/statistics/statistical-work-areas/covid-19-vaccinatio
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Saying PL footballers are almost exactly double jabbed at the same rate as the entire UK is not comparing apples with oranges, it’s a statement of fact. They’re now getting the tacit blame for the coming football shutdown is an opinion. | |
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| Chico's not actually wrong, if you dig deeper. on 13:30 - Dec 20 with 2111 views | Guthrum |
| Chico's not actually wrong, if you dig deeper. on 13:14 - Dec 20 by chicoazul |
Saying PL footballers are almost exactly double jabbed at the same rate as the entire UK is not comparing apples with oranges, it’s a statement of fact. They’re now getting the tacit blame for the coming football shutdown is an opinion. |
If you (or the original article) had said they are double-vaccinated at the same rate as all males of their agegroup in England, it would have been exactly correct.
Thus the main thrust of your OP is right, they are being wrongly scapegoated. | |
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| Chico's not actually wrong, if you dig deeper. on 13:40 - Dec 20 with 2053 views | chicoazul |
| Chico's not actually wrong, if you dig deeper. on 13:30 - Dec 20 by Guthrum |
If you (or the original article) had said they are double-vaccinated at the same rate as all males of their agegroup in England, it would have been exactly correct.
Thus the main thrust of your OP is right, they are being wrongly scapegoated. |
My comparison is still correct
Why so many are struggling with this who can say
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| Chico's not actually wrong, if you dig deeper. on 13:40 - Dec 20 with 2045 views | Pinewoodblue |
| Chico's not actually wrong, if you dig deeper. on 13:14 - Dec 20 by chicoazul |
Saying PL footballers are almost exactly double jabbed at the same rate as the entire UK is not comparing apples with oranges, it’s a statement of fact. They’re now getting the tacit blame for the coming football shutdown is an opinion. |
It may be a misleading statement of facts but it is in reality false as between 10-11% of the population, due to being under 12, are not eligible for vaccination while every professional footballer is. |  |
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| Chico's not actually wrong, if you dig deeper. on 13:46 - Dec 20 with 2011 views | chicoazul |
| Chico's not actually wrong, if you dig deeper. on 13:40 - Dec 20 by Pinewoodblue |
It may be a misleading statement of facts but it is in reality false as between 10-11% of the population, due to being under 12, are not eligible for vaccination while every professional footballer is. |
This sounds clever but is wrong. Some people are ineligible for the vaccine. | |
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| The most interesting thing on 13:46 - Dec 20 with 2009 views | Vaughan8 |
| The most interesting thing on 13:44 - Dec 20 by chicoazul |
Jesus Christ
All I have said is the % is more or less the same - footballers and the entire population of the Uk
So you have to wonder why this implicit criticism and blame towards them is happening
Is this all really that hard? Comprehensive education my god. |
You keeps saying is it hard to understand.
But you're the one who is finding it hard to understand other people. | | | |
| The most interesting thing on 13:48 - Dec 20 with 1978 views | StokieBlue |
| The most interesting thing on 13:44 - Dec 20 by chicoazul |
Jesus Christ
All I have said is the % is more or less the same - footballers and the entire population of the Uk
So you have to wonder why this implicit criticism and blame towards them is happening
Is this all really that hard? Comprehensive education my god. |
You've gotten this entirely wrong and rather than admit it you accuse others of lack of comprehension.
It's rather rude.
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| The most interesting thing on 13:51 - Dec 20 with 1832 views | J2BLUE |
| The most interesting thing on 11:59 - Dec 20 by chicoazul |
Why are so many people confused by this? I said the % number of PL footballers who have been double jabbed is almost exactly the same as the % number of the total population of the country who have been double jabbed. |
This is clearly stupid mate. No idea what's been wrong with you since you returned. You're acting like a Poundland Bankster. |  |
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| The most interesting thing on 14:33 - Dec 20 with 1768 views | chicoazul |
| The most interesting thing on 13:48 - Dec 20 by StokieBlue |
You've gotten this entirely wrong and rather than admit it you accuse others of lack of comprehension.
It's rather rude.
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It’s not wrong. It’s an opinion based on arguments I see invoking a comparison between two simple sets of people; footballers and the population of the UK. I know you can’t stand opinions as you can’t quantify them but that’s life. | |
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