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RIP Desmond Tutu (n/t) 07:13 - Dec 26 with 1456 viewsBlueandTruesince82


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RIP Desmond Tutu (n/t) on 08:04 - Dec 26 with 1394 viewsWD19

First Class man. RIP.
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RIP Desmond Tutu (n/t) on 08:13 - Dec 26 with 1381 viewsChurchman

A truly great man. The world is a poorer place without him.
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RIP Desmond Tutu (n/t) on 08:44 - Dec 26 with 1358 viewsGuthrum

Key figure not only in ending Apartheid, but also in repairing the country afterwards. The Truth and Reconciliation Commission he headed was further influential upon ending the Troubles in Northern Ireland.

Whatever may have gone wrong subsequently, it is a model for peacefully conducting a difficult transfer of power.

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RIP Desmond Tutu (n/t) on 10:25 - Dec 26 with 1253 viewsfarkenhell

RIP Desmond Tutu (n/t) on 08:44 - Dec 26 by Guthrum

Key figure not only in ending Apartheid, but also in repairing the country afterwards. The Truth and Reconciliation Commission he headed was further influential upon ending the Troubles in Northern Ireland.

Whatever may have gone wrong subsequently, it is a model for peacefully conducting a difficult transfer of power.


...not to mention giving his name to what my sister described as "the drinkers' degree", aka "a Desmond".
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RIP Desmond Tutu (n/t) on 10:29 - Dec 26 with 1235 viewsPendejo

Referenced in this song


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RIP Desmond Tutu (n/t) on 11:00 - Dec 26 with 1205 viewsDarth_Koont

RIP Desmond Tutu (n/t) on 08:44 - Dec 26 by Guthrum

Key figure not only in ending Apartheid, but also in repairing the country afterwards. The Truth and Reconciliation Commission he headed was further influential upon ending the Troubles in Northern Ireland.

Whatever may have gone wrong subsequently, it is a model for peacefully conducting a difficult transfer of power.


Indeed. The Truth and Reconciliation Commission was, and still remains, truly inspirational.

Also important to remember how he and the anti-apartheid movement were demonised and opposed by the British government and media almost right up to the end of apartheid. I still remember him being accused of being a dangerous radical and a rabble rouser.

Time wants to erase that but it’s important that we learn from history and stop repeating it. That should also be part of Tutu’s legacy.

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RIP Desmond Tutu (n/t) on 11:16 - Dec 26 with 1166 viewsGuthrum

RIP Desmond Tutu (n/t) on 11:00 - Dec 26 by Darth_Koont

Indeed. The Truth and Reconciliation Commission was, and still remains, truly inspirational.

Also important to remember how he and the anti-apartheid movement were demonised and opposed by the British government and media almost right up to the end of apartheid. I still remember him being accused of being a dangerous radical and a rabble rouser.

Time wants to erase that but it’s important that we learn from history and stop repeating it. That should also be part of Tutu’s legacy.


Indeed. Support for a racist government was a price they were willing to pay given South Africa's strategic location and China/the Soviet bloc's support for the movements opposing white minority rule.

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RIP Desmond Tutu (n/t) on 11:23 - Dec 26 with 1131 viewsDarth_Koont

RIP Desmond Tutu (n/t) on 11:16 - Dec 26 by Guthrum

Indeed. Support for a racist government was a price they were willing to pay given South Africa's strategic location and China/the Soviet bloc's support for the movements opposing white minority rule.


Yep. And a similarly strategic but ultimately immoral and untenable position we’re still taking over Israel-Palestine.

Tutu was right about that too.

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RIP Desmond Tutu (n/t) on 11:36 - Dec 26 with 1107 viewsEdwardStone

RIP Desmond Tutu (n/t) on 11:16 - Dec 26 by Guthrum

Indeed. Support for a racist government was a price they were willing to pay given South Africa's strategic location and China/the Soviet bloc's support for the movements opposing white minority rule.


We like to see ourselves as a fair and open-minded Nation

It is amazing how often we are on the wrong side of the argument
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RIP Desmond Tutu (n/t) on 11:56 - Dec 26 with 1050 viewsZXBlue

RIP Desmond Tutu (n/t) on 11:16 - Dec 26 by Guthrum

Indeed. Support for a racist government was a price they were willing to pay given South Africa's strategic location and China/the Soviet bloc's support for the movements opposing white minority rule.


Really not quite how I remember it.
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RIP Desmond Tutu (n/t) on 11:58 - Dec 26 with 1046 viewsDarth_Koont

RIP Desmond Tutu (n/t) on 11:36 - Dec 26 by EdwardStone

We like to see ourselves as a fair and open-minded Nation

It is amazing how often we are on the wrong side of the argument


That’s what self-interest (and an inflated self opinion) does. We’re not alone in that regard – and not at the level of the US – but it’s why we still partner with and prop up Saudi Arabia, Israel, India under Modi, anti-democratic regimes in Latin America and Africa, and still have our destabilising foreign interventions. And why Uighur rights and Hong Kong democracy became such a cause celebre at exactly the same time the right-wing think tanks were ramping up their opposition to the economic threat of China.

You’d like to think we’d have a more robust and independent moral code that takes precedence when it comes to injustice around the world. But if that actually existed then we’d have applied it domestically too.

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RIP Desmond Tutu (n/t) on 11:59 - Dec 26 with 1037 viewsDarth_Koont

RIP Desmond Tutu (n/t) on 11:56 - Dec 26 by ZXBlue

Really not quite how I remember it.


You probably need to revisit that period in history. That is very much what was happening.

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RIP Desmond Tutu (n/t) on 12:04 - Dec 26 with 1008 viewsZXBlue

RIP Desmond Tutu (n/t) on 11:59 - Dec 26 by Darth_Koont

You probably need to revisit that period in history. That is very much what was happening.


I lived in it and absolutely did not get that impression.
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RIP Desmond Tutu (n/t) on 12:07 - Dec 26 with 985 viewsDarth_Koont

RIP Desmond Tutu (n/t) on 12:04 - Dec 26 by ZXBlue

I lived in it and absolutely did not get that impression.


I don’t expect you did.

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RIP Desmond Tutu (n/t) on 12:14 - Dec 26 with 973 viewsZXBlue

RIP Desmond Tutu (n/t) on 12:07 - Dec 26 by Darth_Koont

I don’t expect you did.


Thats because you have very narrow ideas about the world and people and are unable to even think beyond them.
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RIP Desmond Tutu (n/t) on 12:18 - Dec 26 with 966 viewsDarth_Koont

RIP Desmond Tutu (n/t) on 12:14 - Dec 26 by ZXBlue

Thats because you have very narrow ideas about the world and people and are unable to even think beyond them.


Fair point.

Please give me your take on what was happening. I’m like Noddy over here – all ears.

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RIP Desmond Tutu (n/t) on 12:20 - Dec 26 with 959 viewsGuthrum

RIP Desmond Tutu (n/t) on 11:56 - Dec 26 by ZXBlue

Really not quite how I remember it.


Had it not been for the Cold War situation, SA would likely have received about as little support as Rhodesia did. Instead, many Western governments tried to walk a fine line between condemnation of the Apartheid system and making sure the nation did not fall to communists.

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RIP Desmond Tutu (n/t) on 15:03 - Dec 26 with 812 viewsRyorry

Coined the term "Rainbow Nation".

A man of integrity, fearless in calling out all corruption incl that of former President Zuma (who incidentally was recalled to jail 11 days ago).

R.I.P.

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RIP Desmond Tutu (n/t) on 15:08 - Dec 26 with 802 viewshoppy

RIP Desmond Tutu (n/t) on 12:18 - Dec 26 by Darth_Koont

Fair point.

Please give me your take on what was happening. I’m like Noddy over here – all ears.


I decided it was perhaps best to leave the jokes at the moment.

Tutu soon.

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RIP Desmond Tutu (n/t) on 15:11 - Dec 26 with 793 viewsRyorry

RIP Desmond Tutu (n/t) on 15:08 - Dec 26 by hoppy

I decided it was perhaps best to leave the jokes at the moment.

Tutu soon.


I don't think he'd have minded at all, had quite a sense of humour behind the scenes from what several who knew him have said.

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RIP Desmond Tutu (n/t) on 16:19 - Dec 26 with 733 viewsWeWereZombies

RIP Desmond Tutu (n/t) on 08:44 - Dec 26 by Guthrum

Key figure not only in ending Apartheid, but also in repairing the country afterwards. The Truth and Reconciliation Commission he headed was further influential upon ending the Troubles in Northern Ireland.

Whatever may have gone wrong subsequently, it is a model for peacefully conducting a difficult transfer of power.


And a little further south from Ulster you will find his name and a quote on the memorial at Doolagh:

https://curiousireland.ie/doolagh-valley-famine-memorial-county-mayo/

I'm no Christian but that doesn't stop me being impressed by some of them, Tutu was probably the most impressive from that faith in recent times.

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