| Ah, the Daily Mail and their take on Maxwell and Epstein 14:06 - Dec 31 with 2868 views | ElderGrizzly |
“Are girls really that young?”
Of course a reminder that the Mail editor was friends with the convicted… |  | | |  |
| Ah, the Daily Mail and their take on Maxwell and Epstein on 14:12 - Dec 31 with 2798 views | footers |
Ah, the Daily Mail. The paper that regularly posts 'all grown-up now' bikini photos of underage girls while simultaneously ranting about paedophilia.
I for one am shocked at their take. |  |
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| Ah, the Daily Mail and their take on Maxwell and Epstein on 14:46 - Dec 31 with 2695 views | EastTownBlue |
If you are thinking of Geordie Grieg he is no longer the DM editor and certainly no friend of Ted Verity and Dacre.
That article was written by Jan Moir. Just don’t google her name along with Stephen Gately. |  | | |
| Ah, the Daily Mail and their take on Maxwell and Epstein on 15:03 - Dec 31 with 2624 views | chicoazul |
Remember the days before Twitter when no real person knew or cared what the Daily Mail’s carnival barkers thought about anything |  |
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| Ah, the Daily Mail and their take on Maxwell and Epstein on 15:04 - Dec 31 with 2634 views | Darth_Koont |
The Daily Mail always remind me of
On a moral high horse to distract from/deny their own perversions. |  |
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| Ah, the Daily Mail and their take on Maxwell and Epstein on 17:25 - Dec 31 with 2404 views | BlueBadger |
F**king hell. |  |
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| Ah, the Daily Mail and their take on Maxwell and Epstein on 19:15 - Dec 31 with 2272 views | BrianTablet |
| Ah, the Daily Mail and their take on Maxwell and Epstein on 15:04 - Dec 31 by Darth_Koont |
The Daily Mail always remind me of
On a moral high horse to distract from/deny their own perversions. |
It reminds me more of that dried up piece of dog sh*t that you just can't get off your trainers, however hard you try. |  |
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| Ah, the Daily Mail and their take on Maxwell and Epstein on 20:25 - Dec 31 with 2180 views | Oldsmoker |
I became aware of PIE when they tried to pamphlet Sheffiield Uni in the mid '70's.
With the unions flexing their muscles, the oil crisis and rocky hitting £18 an oz it just seemed an issue that was not important to my way of life.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/magazine-26352378 |  |
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| Ah, the Daily Mail and their take on Maxwell and Epstein on 20:32 - Dec 31 with 2150 views | jeera |
| Ah, the Daily Mail and their take on Maxwell and Epstein on 20:25 - Dec 31 by Oldsmoker |
I became aware of PIE when they tried to pamphlet Sheffiield Uni in the mid '70's.
With the unions flexing their muscles, the oil crisis and rocky hitting £18 an oz it just seemed an issue that was not important to my way of life.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/magazine-26352378 |
PIE; The entire concept is so bizarre it feels it should be unbelievable.
Caused a lot of trouble for the average gay men whose existence, as the article says, became synonymous with paedophilia.
18 quid for an ounce?
No wonder no one wanted to go to work. |  |
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| Ah, the Daily Mail and their take on Maxwell and Epstein on 20:36 - Dec 31 with 2137 views | Oldsmoker |
| Ah, the Daily Mail and their take on Maxwell and Epstein on 20:32 - Dec 31 by jeera |
PIE; The entire concept is so bizarre it feels it should be unbelievable.
Caused a lot of trouble for the average gay men whose existence, as the article says, became synonymous with paedophilia.
18 quid for an ounce?
No wonder no one wanted to go to work. |
When Thatcher got in and inflation really took hold it jumped to £28.
Another reason to hate the Tories. | |
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| Ah, the Daily Mail and their take on Maxwell and Epstein on 21:26 - Dec 31 with 2018 views | Swansea_Blue |
I’ve only seen what’s been posted on here, which includes Lucan’s defence and now this. Utterly bizarre. She was a sexual predator of minors. They may have been mature minors, but the law’s the law. WTF is wrong with people who are defending here? (that’s a rhetorical question as far as the DM goes, we all know what’s wrong with them). |  |
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| Ah, the Daily Mail and their take on Maxwell and Epstein on 21:45 - Dec 31 with 1983 views | jeera |
| Ah, the Daily Mail and their take on Maxwell and Epstein on 21:26 - Dec 31 by Swansea_Blue |
I’ve only seen what’s been posted on here, which includes Lucan’s defence and now this. Utterly bizarre. She was a sexual predator of minors. They may have been mature minors, but the law’s the law. WTF is wrong with people who are defending here? (that’s a rhetorical question as far as the DM goes, we all know what’s wrong with them). |
They're not mature minors at 14 though are they?
At 14 they should be fiddling about with their 16 year old boyfriends because they're impressed they have a moped which is where 14/15 year old boys sh1t out. They can't compete with that.
What shouldn't be happening is them being airlifted off to some island for middle aged men, and women, to treat as sex toys.
Mentally, they are not equipped for that. 14 years old. Just 4 years before that she'd have been 10. [Post edited 31 Dec 2021 21:46]
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| Ah, the Daily Mail and their take on Maxwell and Epstein on 22:20 - Dec 31 with 1920 views | Freddies_Ears |
| Ah, the Daily Mail and their take on Maxwell and Epstein on 14:46 - Dec 31 by EastTownBlue |
If you are thinking of Geordie Grieg he is no longer the DM editor and certainly no friend of Ted Verity and Dacre.
That article was written by Jan Moir. Just don’t google her name along with Stephen Gately. |
Ah thank you. I did. Oh... | | | |
| Ah, the Daily Mail and their take on Maxwell and Epstein on 22:23 - Dec 31 with 1908 views | Swansea_Blue |
| Ah, the Daily Mail and their take on Maxwell and Epstein on 21:45 - Dec 31 by jeera |
They're not mature minors at 14 though are they?
At 14 they should be fiddling about with their 16 year old boyfriends because they're impressed they have a moped which is where 14/15 year old boys sh1t out. They can't compete with that.
What shouldn't be happening is them being airlifted off to some island for middle aged men, and women, to treat as sex toys.
Mentally, they are not equipped for that. 14 years old. Just 4 years before that she'd have been 10. [Post edited 31 Dec 2021 21:46]
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They’re certainly maturing at that age (as opposed to pre-pubescent kids under ~11/12 for example). Biologically, 16/17 year olds are adults. Legally they’re not though in this case, so I suppose it’s wrong of me to introduce a sub-category. She groomed and trafficked kids. End of, as we say. | |
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| Ah, the Daily Mail and their take on Maxwell and Epstein on 22:26 - Dec 31 with 1894 views | jeera |
| Ah, the Daily Mail and their take on Maxwell and Epstein on 22:20 - Dec 31 by Freddies_Ears |
Ah thank you. I did. Oh... |
Crikey, I'd forgotten about that.
What a piece of work she is. | |
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| Ah, the Daily Mail and their take on Maxwell and Epstein on 22:29 - Dec 31 with 1887 views | jeera |
| Ah, the Daily Mail and their take on Maxwell and Epstein on 22:23 - Dec 31 by Swansea_Blue |
They’re certainly maturing at that age (as opposed to pre-pubescent kids under ~11/12 for example). Biologically, 16/17 year olds are adults. Legally they’re not though in this case, so I suppose it’s wrong of me to introduce a sub-category. She groomed and trafficked kids. End of, as we say. |
I wasn't intending to criticise your choice of words.
I was just backing the sentiment whilst saying there are levels of maturity that do not not include the involvement of adults. | |
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| Ah, the Daily Mail and their take on Maxwell and Epstein on 22:41 - Dec 31 with 1848 views | J2BLUE |
| Ah, the Daily Mail and their take on Maxwell and Epstein on 20:25 - Dec 31 by Oldsmoker |
I became aware of PIE when they tried to pamphlet Sheffiield Uni in the mid '70's.
With the unions flexing their muscles, the oil crisis and rocky hitting £18 an oz it just seemed an issue that was not important to my way of life.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/magazine-26352378 |
Holy sh1t.
I was stunned to learn of a 'pro rape' group a few years ago on here but that raises the bar even further. |  |
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| Ah, the Daily Mail and their take on Maxwell and Epstein on 22:57 - Dec 31 with 1823 views | footers |
| Ah, the Daily Mail and their take on Maxwell and Epstein on 22:41 - Dec 31 by J2BLUE |
Holy sh1t.
I was stunned to learn of a 'pro rape' group a few years ago on here but that raises the bar even further. |
This is a hot take from dear old footers, and bear with me on this one, but although PIE was a dinstinctly awful group, there still needs to be some sympathy with actual paedophiles who do not act on their impulses.
Whether we like it or not, some people are attracted to children or teens who are not of-age. There was an amazing call in to the James O'Brien programme which I think has sadly been removed now. Anyhoo, the fella on there admitted 100% to being a paedophile but had never done anything with kids in his life. He was near suicidal - for obvious reasons. He had the guts to call in, admit he had feelings for kids and had a therapist for it - but the anguish in his voice was telling.
Although I, and we, can't possibly condone it, we still have to accept that this is some people's sexuality - no one wakes up wanting to be a paedo. But how do we address if it it's never acted upon? Are we welcoming and understanding of these people or not?
Anyway, happy new year :) | |
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| Ah, the Daily Mail and their take on Maxwell and Epstein on 23:09 - Dec 31 with 1802 views | jeera |
| Ah, the Daily Mail and their take on Maxwell and Epstein on 22:57 - Dec 31 by footers |
This is a hot take from dear old footers, and bear with me on this one, but although PIE was a dinstinctly awful group, there still needs to be some sympathy with actual paedophiles who do not act on their impulses.
Whether we like it or not, some people are attracted to children or teens who are not of-age. There was an amazing call in to the James O'Brien programme which I think has sadly been removed now. Anyhoo, the fella on there admitted 100% to being a paedophile but had never done anything with kids in his life. He was near suicidal - for obvious reasons. He had the guts to call in, admit he had feelings for kids and had a therapist for it - but the anguish in his voice was telling.
Although I, and we, can't possibly condone it, we still have to accept that this is some people's sexuality - no one wakes up wanting to be a paedo. But how do we address if it it's never acted upon? Are we welcoming and understanding of these people or not?
Anyway, happy new year :) |
There was that story years ago of a man who went to his doctor explaining that he was having unusual desires that he was uncomfortable with.
Wouldn't act on them and they were completely against everything he had ever stood for.
Upon further examination somewhere down the line it was discovered he had a tumour or something?
To this day I do not know if that story was made-up or true but it did the rounds. Maybe it was a thing to get men to seek help rather than hurt children on impulse.
But yes, if someone were to be having desires to hurt anyone, seeking medical help would be a healthier bet you'd think. If the individual is responsible enough and isn't comfortable with those desires. That's got to be the difference. | |
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| Ah, the Daily Mail and their take on Maxwell and Epstein on 23:23 - Dec 31 with 1756 views | J2BLUE |
| Ah, the Daily Mail and their take on Maxwell and Epstein on 22:57 - Dec 31 by footers |
This is a hot take from dear old footers, and bear with me on this one, but although PIE was a dinstinctly awful group, there still needs to be some sympathy with actual paedophiles who do not act on their impulses.
Whether we like it or not, some people are attracted to children or teens who are not of-age. There was an amazing call in to the James O'Brien programme which I think has sadly been removed now. Anyhoo, the fella on there admitted 100% to being a paedophile but had never done anything with kids in his life. He was near suicidal - for obvious reasons. He had the guts to call in, admit he had feelings for kids and had a therapist for it - but the anguish in his voice was telling.
Although I, and we, can't possibly condone it, we still have to accept that this is some people's sexuality - no one wakes up wanting to be a paedo. But how do we address if it it's never acted upon? Are we welcoming and understanding of these people or not?
Anyway, happy new year :) |
I completely agree with that. They won't have been joining PIE though. | |
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