| Djokovic visa cancelled on 01:20 - Jan 6 with 1505 views | XYZ |
| Djokovic visa cancelled on 00:12 - Jan 6 by IPS_wich |
It’s almost certainly political. There’s a federal election in 2-3 months time and Morrison is very easily swayed by public opinion. This will play well for him because he can point to the Victorian Labor Government being soft in allowing Djokovic an exemption to play in the tournament - whilst the Border Force (which is a Federal agency) being the last line of defence to all these Covid riddled foreigners getting into the country.
It’s going to be a fine balance for Morrison around Covid. Other than a small stumble around putting all the eggs in the Astra Zeneca basket initially, he has played Covid really well. But as the country opens its borders the Omicron numbers are starting to escalate rapidly and by the time of the election in April the numbers might be out of control. He’s got three months to show to the public that letting Omicron in when the country is over 90% vaccinated was the best possible option - the problem is that he’s spent 24 months talking up an elimination strategy because “Covid is bad” and he now needs to shift the mindset of the electorate that Omicron isn’t such a bad thing. [Post edited 6 Jan 2022 0:14]
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Scotty from marketing's management of the pandemic has been awful. The individual state governments are the ones who've managed it.
His job was to secure vaccines and he failed badly. |  | |  |
| Djokovic visa cancelled on 01:58 - Jan 6 with 1459 views | IPS_wich |
| Djokovic visa cancelled on 01:20 - Jan 6 by XYZ |
Scotty from marketing's management of the pandemic has been awful. The individual state governments are the ones who've managed it.
His job was to secure vaccines and he failed badly. |
I’ll start by saying I’m no fan of ScoMo or his government, but on balance I disagree.
The decision to effectively close the border to international arrivals was a federal decision - and one that has undoubtedly saved lives. Boris could have done exactly the same but he chose not to and it’s been a disaster.
Undoubtedly, the decision to back in AZ as the primary vaccine set the vaccine rollout back by 4-5 months; but since Pfizer started to arrive in numbers Australia has gone from bottom of the OECD countries to over 90% double vaccinated. Although I wouldn’t give politicians credit for this - but that delay has been a godsend because we’ve now opened the borders at a time when Omicron is the dominant strain. Had we started the mass vaccinations 3-4 months earlier then we would have opened up to a tidal wave of Delta.
Id take SvoMo’s Covid performance over BoJo’s every day of the week.
That said, the State Premiers have done an even better job generally. | | | |
| Djokovic visa cancelled on 02:10 - Jan 6 with 1449 views | XYZ |
| Djokovic visa cancelled on 01:58 - Jan 6 by IPS_wich |
I’ll start by saying I’m no fan of ScoMo or his government, but on balance I disagree.
The decision to effectively close the border to international arrivals was a federal decision - and one that has undoubtedly saved lives. Boris could have done exactly the same but he chose not to and it’s been a disaster.
Undoubtedly, the decision to back in AZ as the primary vaccine set the vaccine rollout back by 4-5 months; but since Pfizer started to arrive in numbers Australia has gone from bottom of the OECD countries to over 90% double vaccinated. Although I wouldn’t give politicians credit for this - but that delay has been a godsend because we’ve now opened the borders at a time when Omicron is the dominant strain. Had we started the mass vaccinations 3-4 months earlier then we would have opened up to a tidal wave of Delta.
Id take SvoMo’s Covid performance over BoJo’s every day of the week.
That said, the State Premiers have done an even better job generally. |
The decision to close the borders was a copy-cat of NZ. He had no choice.
Agree with the Johnson comparison, although that would apply to comparing Johnson to anyone but Trump. | | | |
| Djokovic visa cancelled on 03:11 - Jan 6 with 1399 views | IPS_wich |
| Djokovic visa cancelled on 02:10 - Jan 6 by XYZ |
The decision to close the borders was a copy-cat of NZ. He had no choice.
Agree with the Johnson comparison, although that would apply to comparing Johnson to anyone but Trump. |
He had plenty of choice. NZ has a GDP of just over $200 billion, whereas Australia’s is $1.3 trillion. You don’t just close your border because your small neighbour has just chosen to.
As I said before, I’m no fan of his but on balance I believe all of Australia’s leaders are in credit when it comes to Covid. There are many many more things we can use to bash him - climate change being just the start. | | | |
| Djokovic visa cancelled on 03:17 - Jan 6 with 1392 views | XYZ |
| Djokovic visa cancelled on 03:11 - Jan 6 by IPS_wich |
He had plenty of choice. NZ has a GDP of just over $200 billion, whereas Australia’s is $1.3 trillion. You don’t just close your border because your small neighbour has just chosen to.
As I said before, I’m no fan of his but on balance I believe all of Australia’s leaders are in credit when it comes to Covid. There are many many more things we can use to bash him - climate change being just the start. |
Count the days after the NZ announcement.
It was a political reaction, nothing to do with the economy.
Australia's climate crisis non-actions are criminal - for the last 40 years. | | | |
| Djokovic visa cancelled on 06:55 - Jan 6 with 1315 views | BlueBadger |
| Djokovic visa cancelled on 22:57 - Jan 5 by pointofblue |
Oh yes, but he isn't a random tourist. Maybe I'm just judging the Australian government in line with our own and allow him to update the paperwork? Unless the exemption is somehow linked to the visa and there are doubt there. |
His 'not just a random tourist' status means the people he was employing to sort this paperwork out for him should have sorted it out for him. They didn't.
Imagine antivaxxers being incapable of actually thinking about things properly. |  |
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| Djokovic visa cancelled on 07:11 - Jan 6 with 1302 views | BlueBadger |
| Djokovic visa cancelled on 22:25 - Jan 5 by pointofblue |
To be honest, this is all political isn't it? Two independent panels verified, without knowing his identity, that he had an acceptable reason to be exempt. In any other circumstance they'd quickly correct the visa and let him in; they're just trying to save face because of the backlash.
And I say this as someone who think Djokovic's stance regarding vaccinations is dangerous. |
F*c=*k antivaxxers, f**k people who support antivaxxers and f**k people who make excuses for antivaxxers.
He wanted to chat sh1t, now he's gotten banged. | |
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| Djokovic visa cancelled on 07:47 - Jan 6 with 1272 views | BrianTablet |
| Djokovic visa cancelled on 22:53 - Jan 5 by XYZ |
Looks like he turned up without the evidence he claimed to have in his application. |
He forgot to bookmark Maureen's sister-in-law's friend's Facebook video? |  |
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| Djokovic visa cancelled on 08:49 - Jan 6 with 1232 views | GlasgowBlue |
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| Djokovic visa cancelled on 08:53 - Jan 6 with 1208 views | Herbivore |
| Djokovic visa cancelled on 08:49 - Jan 6 by GlasgowBlue |
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I always think, no matter how bad things get at least I'm not Laurence Fox. |  |
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| Djokovic visa cancelled on 09:59 - Jan 6 with 1143 views | Bluroo |
| Djokovic visa cancelled on 01:58 - Jan 6 by IPS_wich |
I’ll start by saying I’m no fan of ScoMo or his government, but on balance I disagree.
The decision to effectively close the border to international arrivals was a federal decision - and one that has undoubtedly saved lives. Boris could have done exactly the same but he chose not to and it’s been a disaster.
Undoubtedly, the decision to back in AZ as the primary vaccine set the vaccine rollout back by 4-5 months; but since Pfizer started to arrive in numbers Australia has gone from bottom of the OECD countries to over 90% double vaccinated. Although I wouldn’t give politicians credit for this - but that delay has been a godsend because we’ve now opened the borders at a time when Omicron is the dominant strain. Had we started the mass vaccinations 3-4 months earlier then we would have opened up to a tidal wave of Delta.
Id take SvoMo’s Covid performance over BoJo’s every day of the week.
That said, the State Premiers have done an even better job generally. |
You have this completely back-to-front.
All that Australia's massively lengthy lockdown has achieved is to delay the inevitable and put them about a year behind the rest of the world in the "pandemic journey". As such is now experiencing the "deaths" that were not prevented, but merely postponed, for a year.
Sweden who took a light tough approach throughout do not have a noticeably worse statistical record than anyone else. | | | |
| Djokovic visa cancelled on 10:15 - Jan 6 with 1127 views | vilanovablue |
| Djokovic visa cancelled on 09:59 - Jan 6 by Bluroo |
You have this completely back-to-front.
All that Australia's massively lengthy lockdown has achieved is to delay the inevitable and put them about a year behind the rest of the world in the "pandemic journey". As such is now experiencing the "deaths" that were not prevented, but merely postponed, for a year.
Sweden who took a light tough approach throughout do not have a noticeably worse statistical record than anyone else. |
The Swedish record isn't a great example if you compare there figures with their Scandi neighbours they have in fact done a lot worse. |  | | |
| Djokovic visa cancelled on 10:33 - Jan 6 with 1104 views | IPS_wich |
| Djokovic visa cancelled on 09:59 - Jan 6 by Bluroo |
You have this completely back-to-front.
All that Australia's massively lengthy lockdown has achieved is to delay the inevitable and put them about a year behind the rest of the world in the "pandemic journey". As such is now experiencing the "deaths" that were not prevented, but merely postponed, for a year.
Sweden who took a light tough approach throughout do not have a noticeably worse statistical record than anyone else. |
You couldn’t be more wrong if you tried.
Australia (and NZ) locked down to enable the population to get vaccinated. As of today, 91.5% of Australians over 16 are doubled jabbed and 91.5% of over 16 have had at least one jab.
The country is also opening up at a time when a far less severe strain (Omicron) is the dominant virus globally.
To suggest that Australia has simply postponed the same level of deaths it would have had if not for the lockdown is ludicrous. The country has opened up to a less severe disease with over 90% of the population vaccinated.
Sure, some people will (and have already) died since the country has started to open up, but at a far far lower level than would have been the case 18 months ago.
But let’s just test your comparison with Sweden.
Sweden has had 1.38m Covid cases with 15,369 deaths - a rate of 1.12% of cases ending in death.
Australia has had 609k Covid cases with 2,271 deaths - a rate of 0.37% of cases ending in death.
In fact the UK has a death rate of 1.07% - better than Swedens.
If you had said we postponed people catching Covid by 12 months - then I’d agree with you. [Post edited 6 Jan 2022 10:35]
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| Djokovic visa cancelled on 10:38 - Jan 6 with 1093 views | Herbivore |
| Djokovic visa cancelled on 10:33 - Jan 6 by IPS_wich |
You couldn’t be more wrong if you tried.
Australia (and NZ) locked down to enable the population to get vaccinated. As of today, 91.5% of Australians over 16 are doubled jabbed and 91.5% of over 16 have had at least one jab.
The country is also opening up at a time when a far less severe strain (Omicron) is the dominant virus globally.
To suggest that Australia has simply postponed the same level of deaths it would have had if not for the lockdown is ludicrous. The country has opened up to a less severe disease with over 90% of the population vaccinated.
Sure, some people will (and have already) died since the country has started to open up, but at a far far lower level than would have been the case 18 months ago.
But let’s just test your comparison with Sweden.
Sweden has had 1.38m Covid cases with 15,369 deaths - a rate of 1.12% of cases ending in death.
Australia has had 609k Covid cases with 2,271 deaths - a rate of 0.37% of cases ending in death.
In fact the UK has a death rate of 1.07% - better than Swedens.
If you had said we postponed people catching Covid by 12 months - then I’d agree with you. [Post edited 6 Jan 2022 10:35]
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On those figures, Sweden has had 7 times as many deaths as Australia despite its population being less than half of Australia's. To suggest that Australia has got it wrong and Sweden has got it right only really makes sense if you are Harold Shipman or Thanos. | |
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| Djokovic visa cancelled on 11:38 - Jan 6 with 1017 views | Ryorry |
| Djokovic visa cancelled on 09:59 - Jan 6 by Bluroo |
You have this completely back-to-front.
All that Australia's massively lengthy lockdown has achieved is to delay the inevitable and put them about a year behind the rest of the world in the "pandemic journey". As such is now experiencing the "deaths" that were not prevented, but merely postponed, for a year.
Sweden who took a light tough approach throughout do not have a noticeably worse statistical record than anyone else. |
"Oh no, not another one".
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| Djokovic visa cancelled on 11:48 - Jan 6 with 1020 views | tractordownsouth |
Nigel Farage has tweeted his disgust over the decision. I’m surprised, I thought he’d be happy about Australia taking back control of its borders to stop Eastern Europeans getting into the country. |  |
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| Djokovic visa cancelled on 11:50 - Jan 6 with 995 views | tractordownsouth |
| Djokovic visa cancelled on 08:53 - Jan 6 by Herbivore |
I always think, no matter how bad things get at least I'm not Laurence Fox. |
Is there anyone who regrets multiple marriages more than Billie Piper? | |
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| Djokovic visa cancelled on 13:03 - Jan 6 with 940 views | blueconscience |
| Djokovic visa cancelled on 21:37 - Jan 5 by Herbivore |
Lolz. |
Doubt he will lose any sleep over not being able to compete. It is more of a loss to the tournament than himself. |  |
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| Djokovic visa cancelled on 13:04 - Jan 6 with 940 views | Herbivore |
| Djokovic visa cancelled on 13:03 - Jan 6 by blueconscience |
Doubt he will lose any sleep over not being able to compete. It is more of a loss to the tournament than himself. |
The opposite of what you have said is true. | |
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| Djokovic visa cancelled on 13:05 - Jan 6 with 935 views | blueconscience |
| Djokovic visa cancelled on 13:04 - Jan 6 by Herbivore |
The opposite of what you have said is true. |
He is a multi millionaire, he doesn’t need the prize money. | |
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| Djokovic visa cancelled on 13:07 - Jan 6 with 929 views | Herbivore |
| Djokovic visa cancelled on 13:05 - Jan 6 by blueconscience |
He is a multi millionaire, he doesn’t need the prize money. |
Yeah I'm sure he's not bothered about winning a 10th Australian Open and having the outright most Slams ahead of Nadal and Federer. Definitely no skin off his nose, whilst the tournament itself will be reeling at being one player down, who can be replaced by a qualifier. | |
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| Djokovic visa cancelled on 13:17 - Jan 6 with 910 views | C_HealyIsAPleasure |
| Djokovic visa cancelled on 13:07 - Jan 6 by Herbivore |
Yeah I'm sure he's not bothered about winning a 10th Australian Open and having the outright most Slams ahead of Nadal and Federer. Definitely no skin off his nose, whilst the tournament itself will be reeling at being one player down, who can be replaced by a qualifier. |
It was a ludicrous point but suggesting the tournament won’t be impacted is equally ludicrous, clearly the possibility of having a player break the all time mens slam titles record is a big deal |  |
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| Djokovic visa cancelled on 13:31 - Jan 6 with 893 views | Herbivore |
| Djokovic visa cancelled on 13:17 - Jan 6 by C_HealyIsAPleasure |
It was a ludicrous point but suggesting the tournament won’t be impacted is equally ludicrous, clearly the possibility of having a player break the all time mens slam titles record is a big deal |
I haven't said the tournament won't be impacted. The impact on the tournament is, however, far less considerable than the personal ramifications for Djokovic. | |
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| Djokovic visa cancelled on 13:40 - Jan 6 with 882 views | C_HealyIsAPleasure |
| Djokovic visa cancelled on 13:31 - Jan 6 by Herbivore |
I haven't said the tournament won't be impacted. The impact on the tournament is, however, far less considerable than the personal ramifications for Djokovic. |
Not really sure how you come to that conclusion really, its a big deal for both clearly
Tbh it’s an impossible task weighing up things that can’t really be quantified, but to counter your point I could easily point out that for Djokovic he can feasibly just win the next tournament whereas it’s unlikely that the Australian Open will have the chance for a player to set such a record at their tournament for some time, if ever | |
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