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This is an astounding tweet from last night's game up here on 22:31 - Feb 6 by loftboy
When I was in infants school I would walk home, wasn’t far and no roads to cross, my mum worked part time in the local sweet shop, I had a key on a ribbon round my neck, I used to let myself in with instructions not to answer the door to strangers and not touch anything until my elder siblings got home half hour later. At the age of 11 my mum would make ma some sarnies in the school holidays and I would regularly cycle from Bracknell to Windsor and back again, at the age of 13 I was going up to London on the train with my mate for football, by 15 was travelling the length and breadth of the country to away games, all my dad would say to me was “ if I get a phone call from the local constabulary saying you’d been arrested, I will tell them to lock you up and throw away the key.” I personally think that kids today are far too molly coddled and wrapped in cotton wool.
Political correctness gone mad innit. Bloody cancel culture caused by left wing snowflakes innit. Climbing up chimneys didn't do me any harm when I was 4 years old. All kids should be out working.
This is an astounding tweet from last night's game up here on 08:48 - Feb 7 by The_Flashing_Smile
I'd say cycling from Bracknell to Windsor is more dangerous than staying in a hotel room.
When I was six I cycled (on a wee bike with solid tyres) from outside Melton to Ufford (I think, not sure how far I got but I know I passed over an, open, level crossing - giving the signalman a swinging/dodgy thumbs up/down (we were very well off at the time and even had a telly so I got to watch Norman Vaughn on 'Sunday Night at the London Palladium'), it might have been that signalman who rang my Mum to tell her I was on the loose as I did get a worried talking to when I got back.)
Used to walk or cycle to Melton County Primary from half a mile outside the village on my own at that age too.
Also was told not to play in the air raid shelter at the bottom of the garden because it might collapse. The air raid shelter...or as I thought of it, my den.
My 2 are much younger than that, so I wouldn't know how I would feel. I dare say I wouldn't feel at all comfortable to leave them alone in a hotel room away from home though. I think it perhaps depends on the child, some are more mature than others at that age, but for me it's just a bit of a d1ck move to go out and have a few pints. Why not get some from an offy and have a beer in the hotel room? Or take your son out to a pub / restaurant that where you can have a drink together? If you're that depsperate to go and meet up with mates to get nutted then you probably should've left the lad at home.
This is an astounding tweet from last night's game up here on 18:55 - Feb 5 by The_Flashing_Smile
I know what you're thinking. I was left alone as an 11 year old and it was absolutely fine. He's only 2 years from being a teenager. Is this really a police matter?
2 years is a heck of a long time at that age, it's the best part of 20% of his life and makes a big difference from a maturity perspective. He's only 2 years off being 9 as well.
This is an astounding tweet from last night's game up here on 09:59 - Feb 7 by clive_baker
My 2 are much younger than that, so I wouldn't know how I would feel. I dare say I wouldn't feel at all comfortable to leave them alone in a hotel room away from home though. I think it perhaps depends on the child, some are more mature than others at that age, but for me it's just a bit of a d1ck move to go out and have a few pints. Why not get some from an offy and have a beer in the hotel room? Or take your son out to a pub / restaurant that where you can have a drink together? If you're that depsperate to go and meet up with mates to get nutted then you probably should've left the lad at home.
Indeed. Echoing my views.
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This is an astounding tweet from last night's game up here on 10:05 - Feb 7 with 1109 views
This is an astounding tweet from last night's game up here on 10:01 - Feb 7 by The_Flashing_Smile
You keep saying these things are different, and I'll repeat, the cycle one is more dangerous for the child.
Yeah, more dangerous. Is that the idea? Decide what’s least safe? Odd.
As Clive says, it’s just a dick thing for the Dad to do. Why would you leave a kid in a hotel (which I appreciate, isn’t massively dangerous) to go out on the sauce? You’ve taken the lad to watch a game of footie, you see it through and do something after such as a meal somewhere.
Get that?
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This is an astounding tweet from last night's game up here on 10:07 - Feb 7 with 1107 views
This is an astounding tweet from last night's game up here on 10:00 - Feb 7 by clive_baker
2 years is a heck of a long time at that age, it's the best part of 20% of his life and makes a big difference from a maturity perspective. He's only 2 years off being 9 as well.
As you said above, it depends on the child.
It's also interesting how this went from going for a drink to celebrate to some deciding he's "gone on the lash", "got munted" etc. For all we know he went for a couple of pints with a mate he hasn't seen for a while, while the kid wanted to watch telly in the hotel room. The moral indignation on this thread, without knowing the facts is, as always, hilarious.
Trust the process. Trust Phil.
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This is an astounding tweet from last night's game up here on 10:11 - Feb 7 with 1104 views
This is an astounding tweet from last night's game up here on 10:05 - Feb 7 by OsborneOneNil
Yeah, more dangerous. Is that the idea? Decide what’s least safe? Odd.
As Clive says, it’s just a dick thing for the Dad to do. Why would you leave a kid in a hotel (which I appreciate, isn’t massively dangerous) to go out on the sauce? You’ve taken the lad to watch a game of footie, you see it through and do something after such as a meal somewhere.
Get that?
Check my latest post. The scenario is exactly the same, just tweaked. Is it a dick move for a guy to have a couple of pints with a mate he hasn't seen in ages while his kid, who imagines that will be boring, elects to watch TV in the hotel room?
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This is an astounding tweet from last night's game up here on 10:18 - Feb 7 with 1099 views
This is an astounding tweet from last night's game up here on 10:11 - Feb 7 by The_Flashing_Smile
Check my latest post. The scenario is exactly the same, just tweaked. Is it a dick move for a guy to have a couple of pints with a mate he hasn't seen in ages while his kid, who imagines that will be boring, elects to watch TV in the hotel room?
I've been in this scenario myself many times. The correct answer is take the kid with you for a drink and go easy on the pints. If I wanted to get mashed up, the boy wouldn't be there.
Has anyone ever looked at their own postings for last day or so? Oh my... so sorry. Was Ullaa
This is an astounding tweet from last night's game up here on 10:07 - Feb 7 by The_Flashing_Smile
As you said above, it depends on the child.
It's also interesting how this went from going for a drink to celebrate to some deciding he's "gone on the lash", "got munted" etc. For all we know he went for a couple of pints with a mate he hasn't seen for a while, while the kid wanted to watch telly in the hotel room. The moral indignation on this thread, without knowing the facts is, as always, hilarious.
They're both dick moves, IMO. The latter is worse, as upon returning he would be in a lesser state to care for his child, but the very fact they were left unattended is, in my opinion, wrong.
I agree that there's some jumping to conclusions here, myself included, but even giving him the benefit of the doubt and saying it was a couple of pints in the pub next door, it still doesn't sit well with me. I wouldn't dream of telling anyone else how to parent though, just my opinion on the matter.
This is an astounding tweet from last night's game up here on 10:18 - Feb 7 by giant_stow
I've been in this scenario myself many times. The correct answer is take the kid with you for a drink and go easy on the pints. If I wanted to get mashed up, the boy wouldn't be there.
Like I say, the kid might've preferred to stay in the room, watch TV, play computer games, while Dad has a couple of beers round the corner with his old mate. Typical of the Social Media age, some decide to slaughter the guy after barely knowing any details. Interesting, too, that the police have now removed the tweet.
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This is an astounding tweet from last night's game up here on 10:31 - Feb 7 with 1073 views
This is an astounding tweet from last night's game up here on 10:24 - Feb 7 by The_Flashing_Smile
Like I say, the kid might've preferred to stay in the room, watch TV, play computer games, while Dad has a couple of beers round the corner with his old mate. Typical of the Social Media age, some decide to slaughter the guy after barely knowing any details. Interesting, too, that the police have now removed the tweet.
I agree that this isn't necessarily a 'slaughtering' offence or even something that should become legal, but not about kid preferring to stay in - so what if the kid prefers that? If he'd come to the footy, he comes out with the dad too. If its just a couple of beers, then not long for the boy to wait at the pub for his dad to have a chat.
Has anyone ever looked at their own postings for last day or so? Oh my... so sorry. Was Ullaa
This is an astounding tweet from last night's game up here on 10:18 - Feb 7 by giant_stow
I've been in this scenario myself many times. The correct answer is take the kid with you for a drink and go easy on the pints. If I wanted to get mashed up, the boy wouldn't be there.
My mum and dad used to take me to the pub on Sunday's and leave me in the car with a packet of crisps and a bottle of pop. TWTD.
Thinking back even earlier, the late 60's when I was 3 or 4, we'd holiday at Butlins. At night I, along with the kids of most parents there, was left in the chalet at night time. Apparently Butlins would announce over the tannoy if a child was crying and what chalet number the cries were coming from.
This is an astounding tweet from last night's game up here on 10:24 - Feb 7 by The_Flashing_Smile
Like I say, the kid might've preferred to stay in the room, watch TV, play computer games, while Dad has a couple of beers round the corner with his old mate. Typical of the Social Media age, some decide to slaughter the guy after barely knowing any details. Interesting, too, that the police have now removed the tweet.
I don't really think the wishes of the kid are all that relevant. If I listed to everything my children wanted to do and granted it I dread to think what the consequences would be. As an adult, a parent, I simply cannot imagine doing that. Not least because I really can't see myself enjoying my drink for a start, knowing my 11 year old son was on his own in a hotel room.
I'm not debating with a view to convincing anyone to my opinion, it's simply that, and we're all different, but my kids are the most precious thing imaginable, words can't even describe. I cannot imagine putting my need for a pint over their safety, however minimal the risk. We spend our lives making decision, and if a kid walking home from school is necessary to facilitate going to work, which in turn provides for said child, then these decisions are often made in terms of balance and proportionate risk. The least worst option. I can't ever imagine putting meeting a mate for a beer ahead of leaving an 11 year old on his own in a hotel in Manchester. But each to their own, perhaps he likes beer more than me.
This is an astounding tweet from last night's game up here on 10:31 - Feb 7 by giant_stow
I agree that this isn't necessarily a 'slaughtering' offence or even something that should become legal, but not about kid preferring to stay in - so what if the kid prefers that? If he'd come to the footy, he comes out with the dad too. If its just a couple of beers, then not long for the boy to wait at the pub for his dad to have a chat.
I agree in principle, but like I say, we don't know the details.
Trust the process. Trust Phil.
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This is an astounding tweet from last night's game up here on 10:38 - Feb 7 with 1052 views
This is an astounding tweet from last night's game up here on 10:33 - Feb 7 by GlasgowBlue
My mum and dad used to take me to the pub on Sunday's and leave me in the car with a packet of crisps and a bottle of pop. TWTD.
Thinking back even earlier, the late 60's when I was 3 or 4, we'd holiday at Butlins. At night I, along with the kids of most parents there, was left in the chalet at night time. Apparently Butlins would announce over the tannoy if a child was crying and what chalet number the cries were coming from.
I was a 70s baby, early 80s child (song title) and also spent many nights / lunchtimes in the the pub, while my dad was in the bar (we used to go to the arcade machines, when pubs had those - gutted they're more or less gone now).
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Has anyone ever looked at their own postings for last day or so? Oh my... so sorry. Was Ullaa
This is an astounding tweet from last night's game up here on 10:36 - Feb 7 by clive_baker
I don't really think the wishes of the kid are all that relevant. If I listed to everything my children wanted to do and granted it I dread to think what the consequences would be. As an adult, a parent, I simply cannot imagine doing that. Not least because I really can't see myself enjoying my drink for a start, knowing my 11 year old son was on his own in a hotel room.
I'm not debating with a view to convincing anyone to my opinion, it's simply that, and we're all different, but my kids are the most precious thing imaginable, words can't even describe. I cannot imagine putting my need for a pint over their safety, however minimal the risk. We spend our lives making decision, and if a kid walking home from school is necessary to facilitate going to work, which in turn provides for said child, then these decisions are often made in terms of balance and proportionate risk. The least worst option. I can't ever imagine putting meeting a mate for a beer ahead of leaving an 11 year old on his own in a hotel in Manchester. But each to their own, perhaps he likes beer more than me.
You've exaggerated a lot there to make a point. No-one's suggesting listening to everything your children want to do and granting it. And no-one's suggesting he cares more for beer than his child. We'll have to agree to disagree. I can totally see a scenario where I, as an 11 year old, would rather play computer games than sit next to my dad as he drank beer and chatted with boring mate, and I can see my dad thinking yeah fair point, as long as you're good.
He's 11. You can't wrap them in cotton wool forever, and perhaps giving them a bit of responsibility is actually a good thing.
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This is an astounding tweet from last night's game up here on 10:46 - Feb 7 with 1020 views
This is an astounding tweet from last night's game up here on 10:38 - Feb 7 by giant_stow
I was a 70s baby, early 80s child (song title) and also spent many nights / lunchtimes in the the pub, while my dad was in the bar (we used to go to the arcade machines, when pubs had those - gutted they're more or less gone now).
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I used to go off on my own to play the fruit machines on holiday at that age. My dad would give me a quid and I'd invariably come back with more to hand back to him, before going off again. It was brilliant. It was like I was the breadwinner!
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This is an astounding tweet from last night's game up here on 10:48 - Feb 7 with 1016 views
This is an astounding tweet from last night's game up here on 10:46 - Feb 7 by The_Flashing_Smile
I used to go off on my own to play the fruit machines on holiday at that age. My dad would give me a quid and I'd invariably come back with more to hand back to him, before going off again. It was brilliant. It was like I was the breadwinner!
haha! And when you actually did get a win, it felt like a lottery win!
Happy times. I really regret arcades in pubs going, but I spose consoles just killed them.
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Has anyone ever looked at their own postings for last day or so? Oh my... so sorry. Was Ullaa
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