So....if Russia invade the Ukraine. 18:43 - Feb 11 with 4264 views | homer_123 | Do we stand by and watch or get involved? 🤔 |  |
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So....if Russia invade the Ukraine. on 22:49 - Feb 11 with 1176 views | Pinewoodblue |
So....if Russia invade the Ukraine. on 21:06 - Feb 11 by jeera | Fortunately we have our own supply and the foresight to store as much as we need to see our own people through any potential crisis. |
We have cut storage facilities in recent years and ill pay the going rate for gas so it would affect us. |  |
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So....if Russia invade the Ukraine. on 22:49 - Feb 11 with 1177 views | Edmundo |
So....if Russia invade the Ukraine. on 22:11 - Feb 11 by Guthrum | So far, Putin has not shown himself subject to the kind of hubristic overreach which led Hitler, Napoleon and Charles XII to their downfalls. |
I wouldn't bet against Putin having syphilis and going even more bonkers as a result though. |  |
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So....if Russia invade the Ukraine. on 23:01 - Feb 11 with 1152 views | Pinewoodblue |
So....if Russia invade the Ukraine. on 21:55 - Feb 11 by Guthrum | I don't think Russia will mount a full-scale invasion at this stage. Too messy, too many downsides, too counterproductive. Maybe after another couple of cycles of tension-raising and letting it drop, once everyone has got bored with it all. That's more the way the Soviets worked (bearing in mind when Putin was trained). |
Invasion is one thing but you then have to maintain a big enough force of occupation to keep the lid on things. While Russia has assembled capable of mounting an invasion I doubt they could maintain an occupation. They will end of up annexing the area they already occupy in the East of Ukraine. The biggest potential problem for the EU , and UK /USA, is a mass exodus of Ukrainians seeking asylum. |  |
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So....if Russia invade the Ukraine. on 01:28 - Feb 12 with 1104 views | jeera |
So....if Russia invade the Ukraine. on 22:49 - Feb 11 by Pinewoodblue | We have cut storage facilities in recent years and ill pay the going rate for gas so it would affect us. |
Yes mate i know. T'was an attempt at sarcasm. If demand increased elsewhere it would naturally have a knock on. Another reason to not sell off the natural supplies on ours doorstep. |  |
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So....if Russia invade the Ukraine. on 21:21 - Feb 11 by ElderGrizzly | Yes, any reduction of supply will hit the EU more than us directly. It will of course push prices/supply issues to us too. No-one will put troops on the ground, US included. It will be a war of paper and pen for all but the Ukrainians [Post edited 11 Feb 2022 21:21]
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So....if Russia invade the Ukraine. on 08:48 - Feb 12 with 999 views | Cheltenham_Blue | If this thread has taught me anything, it's that none of us has the foggiest idea what Putin will do. Feb 14th for my money. It's just the symbolic sort of claptrap that world leaders go for now. "A peaceful effort to reunite the peoples of our countries, their shared political ideals and desires for long-lasting friendship" |  |
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So....if Russia invade the Ukraine. on 09:01 - Feb 12 with 984 views | The_Flashing_Smile |
"We will need more than slogans going forward." Ooh that's good, I like that one! |  |
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So....if Russia invade the Ukraine. on 09:10 - Feb 12 with 974 views | ElephantintheRoom | Last time I looked Russia has already snaffled large parts of Ukraine and nobody batted an eyelid. Therein lies a clue perhaps. |  |
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[Redacted] on 09:13 - Feb 12 with 969 views | victorywilhappen |
So....if Russia invade the Ukraine. on 09:01 - Feb 12 by The_Flashing_Smile | "We will need more than slogans going forward." Ooh that's good, I like that one! |
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[Redacted] on 09:21 - Feb 12 with 955 views | victorywilhappen |
So....if Russia invade the Ukraine. on 08:48 - Feb 12 by Cheltenham_Blue | If this thread has taught me anything, it's that none of us has the foggiest idea what Putin will do. Feb 14th for my money. It's just the symbolic sort of claptrap that world leaders go for now. "A peaceful effort to reunite the peoples of our countries, their shared political ideals and desires for long-lasting friendship" |
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So....if Russia invade the Ukraine. on 09:47 - Feb 12 with 939 views | itfcjoe |
So....if Russia invade the Ukraine. on 21:50 - Feb 11 by Guthrum | Pull that stunt for too long and the Russian economy will crash from lack of revenue. |
I wonder if we’ll hear anything from Germany at any time, both the EU and the UK have been severely weakened by Brexit |  |
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So....if Russia invade the Ukraine. on 09:58 - Feb 12 with 917 views | noggin |
So....if Russia invade the Ukraine. on 21:14 - Feb 11 by Lord_Lucan | We don't get gas from Russia do we, unlike Germany who are I think quite reliant on them. There is a big problem with Nato as the Yanks basically fund it and are starting to question why. America is far more interested in all things Asia, especially China of course. Since UK left the EU I would wager they are even less bothered about Europe. Look what happened with Yugoslavia, Jacques Poos thought that the Europeans could sort it out but had to rely on UK and USA military - with obviously USA taking more control. Europe has a serious problem in the years ahead as Putin is determined to break it up and USA may lose all interest, especially when Biden kicks the bucket. Whilst UK quite obviously cannot match the fire power of Russia I bet you a pound to a pile of sh1t that The EU will have to rely on UK's superior military, armoury, intelligence and potential financial sanctions to help them out. UK, sick man of Europe? My arse!! |
The EU is not a military alliance, however much brexiters like to think it is. |  |
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So....if Russia invade the Ukraine. on 10:11 - Feb 12 with 894 views | Horsham |
I’ve not been keeping myself really up to date but from my limited knowledge Ukrainians and Russians tend to actually get on with one another on a human level. I’m not really sure Ukrainians would be fleeing over the border in the event of a Russian invasion unless Putin has a really bonkers plan to force that situation. |  | |  |
[Redacted] on 10:37 - Feb 12 with 862 views | victorywilhappen |
So....if Russia invade the Ukraine. on 10:11 - Feb 12 by Horsham | I’ve not been keeping myself really up to date but from my limited knowledge Ukrainians and Russians tend to actually get on with one another on a human level. I’m not really sure Ukrainians would be fleeing over the border in the event of a Russian invasion unless Putin has a really bonkers plan to force that situation. |
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[Redacted] on 10:40 - Feb 12 with 846 views | victorywilhappen |
So....if Russia invade the Ukraine. on 09:47 - Feb 12 by itfcjoe | I wonder if we’ll hear anything from Germany at any time, both the EU and the UK have been severely weakened by Brexit |
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So....if Russia invade the Ukraine. on 10:51 - Feb 12 with 818 views | Horsham |
Putin hasn’t been afraid to escalate humanitarian crisis previously but I suspect he’d be mindful that Russians see Ukrainians in a very different light to Kurds and others. |  | |  |
So....if Russia invade the Ukraine. on 12:25 - Feb 12 with 755 views | LiquidPaz | My wife is originally from Ukraine had been here 20 years. This kind of aggressive tactic from Putin has always been a real threat. We were in Ukraine when the plane was shot down. Speaking with the in laws there it really is worrying, the continued attempts to destabilise everyday life is awful. Schools receiving regular bomb threats, reducing telephone coverage and internet, blocking exports imports at the port in via Crimea and restricting air traffic over Crimea coupled with thousands of troops at the border. This is literally 3 1/2 hours by plane. Not sure what's going to happen. Just hoping to get to the Winchester and hope it all blows over🤷â€â™‚ï¸ |  | |  |
So....if Russia invade the Ukraine. on 13:10 - Feb 12 with 709 views | PrrrromotionGiven | It's Ukraine, not "The Ukraine". |  | |  |
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So....if Russia invade the Ukraine. on 13:10 - Feb 12 by PrrrromotionGiven | It's Ukraine, not "The Ukraine". |
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