| Lots of little digs at Cook but 09:35 - Feb 20 with 12120 views | Chrisd |
the clearance of the squad was very much needed and he certainly brought in players that had the potential to improve us, which KM is getting out of them now. PC might not have gone about it in the right way, but that squad needed clearing out and freshening up that was something that PC did get right. [Post edited 20 Feb 2022 9:37]
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| Lots of little digs at Cook but on 07:22 - Feb 22 with 780 views | itfcjoe |
| Lots of little digs at Cook but on 00:11 - Feb 22 by ArnieM |
Whilst not intending to defend Cook here. Another reason why this new group is now better is quite likely due to the simple fact that it was ALWAYS going to take most of this season for them to bed in and become a cohesive team (See Aluko’s interview). Yes many will point the finger at Cook and say , oh he was shyte…. Was too one dimensional etc etc. yes that’s true. But so is the fact it was a completely new squad . I seriously doubt McKenna would have faired any better in those first 6 games of the season with this brand new squad , ALL of whom were trying to settle in a new area in
The country, re settle their families, get know new team mates names let alone style of play etc .
Just to clarify :
We have a much better coach now.
The squad at 3/4 way through this season is starting to really help and motor .
It was always going to take the majority of this season for these wholesale changes to settle down.
We are starting to see the benefits of these MANY changes as things bed in .
I’m many ways Cook played and integral part in this clubs transformation BECAUSE he ripped up the sad excuse of the previous squad that had underperformed for 3-4 years under Lambert. Someone had to do the demolition job. Hurst talked about it bug got no support from Evans and succumbed to an element of player power I think .. Lambert just added more deadwood and couldn’t make a decision to save his life. Cook finally ripped it up but didn’t have the flexibility or coaching back up to mould his new squad into a decent team - and certainly not in just 20 games! But he’s played his part . So maybe we should accept his part in the grand scale of this clubs transformation for what it is and get behind McKenna and see where that takes us. As Ashton has said it’s like tufnimg two oil tankers ….. so to blame Cook for everything is frankly ridiculous. |
You don’t think McKenna would have fared better than 3 points from 6 games and conceding 15 goals in the process against teams like Burton, Cheltenham and Morecambe?
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| Lots of little digs at Cook but on 07:28 - Feb 22 with 761 views | theinbetweener |
| Lots of little digs at Cook but on 00:11 - Feb 22 by ArnieM |
Whilst not intending to defend Cook here. Another reason why this new group is now better is quite likely due to the simple fact that it was ALWAYS going to take most of this season for them to bed in and become a cohesive team (See Aluko’s interview). Yes many will point the finger at Cook and say , oh he was shyte…. Was too one dimensional etc etc. yes that’s true. But so is the fact it was a completely new squad . I seriously doubt McKenna would have faired any better in those first 6 games of the season with this brand new squad , ALL of whom were trying to settle in a new area in
The country, re settle their families, get know new team mates names let alone style of play etc .
Just to clarify :
We have a much better coach now.
The squad at 3/4 way through this season is starting to really help and motor .
It was always going to take the majority of this season for these wholesale changes to settle down.
We are starting to see the benefits of these MANY changes as things bed in .
I’m many ways Cook played and integral part in this clubs transformation BECAUSE he ripped up the sad excuse of the previous squad that had underperformed for 3-4 years under Lambert. Someone had to do the demolition job. Hurst talked about it bug got no support from Evans and succumbed to an element of player power I think .. Lambert just added more deadwood and couldn’t make a decision to save his life. Cook finally ripped it up but didn’t have the flexibility or coaching back up to mould his new squad into a decent team - and certainly not in just 20 games! But he’s played his part . So maybe we should accept his part in the grand scale of this clubs transformation for what it is and get behind McKenna and see where that takes us. As Ashton has said it’s like tufnimg two oil tankers ….. so to blame Cook for everything is frankly ridiculous. |
Exactly this. |  | | |
| Lots of little digs at Cook but on 07:33 - Feb 22 with 753 views | LeoMuff |
| Lots of little digs at Cook but on 07:22 - Feb 22 by itfcjoe |
You don’t think McKenna would have fared better than 3 points from 6 games and conceding 15 goals in the process against teams like Burton, Cheltenham and Morecambe?
Madness |
If we started those games with 19 new faces and no Walton, Edmundson or Morsy as Cook had then maybe, but we will never know. |  |
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| Lots of little digs at Cook but on 08:30 - Feb 22 with 699 views | FrimleyBlue |
| Lots of little digs at Cook but on 00:11 - Feb 22 by ArnieM |
Whilst not intending to defend Cook here. Another reason why this new group is now better is quite likely due to the simple fact that it was ALWAYS going to take most of this season for them to bed in and become a cohesive team (See Aluko’s interview). Yes many will point the finger at Cook and say , oh he was shyte…. Was too one dimensional etc etc. yes that’s true. But so is the fact it was a completely new squad . I seriously doubt McKenna would have faired any better in those first 6 games of the season with this brand new squad , ALL of whom were trying to settle in a new area in
The country, re settle their families, get know new team mates names let alone style of play etc .
Just to clarify :
We have a much better coach now.
The squad at 3/4 way through this season is starting to really help and motor .
It was always going to take the majority of this season for these wholesale changes to settle down.
We are starting to see the benefits of these MANY changes as things bed in .
I’m many ways Cook played and integral part in this clubs transformation BECAUSE he ripped up the sad excuse of the previous squad that had underperformed for 3-4 years under Lambert. Someone had to do the demolition job. Hurst talked about it bug got no support from Evans and succumbed to an element of player power I think .. Lambert just added more deadwood and couldn’t make a decision to save his life. Cook finally ripped it up but didn’t have the flexibility or coaching back up to mould his new squad into a decent team - and certainly not in just 20 games! But he’s played his part . So maybe we should accept his part in the grand scale of this clubs transformation for what it is and get behind McKenna and see where that takes us. As Ashton has said it’s like tufnimg two oil tankers ….. so to blame Cook for everything is frankly ridiculous. |
But that's like saying be grateful PC was a great director of football rather than a manager, the problem was we hired him as a manager.
it's one thing to see you need a squad change, but it's another to fail as miserable as he did with the squad.
People questioned if he missed Leam, well he failed he without him and he's also had 2 games at Chesterfield and has managed 0 wins and lost their first game at home all season, changed them from 3 at the back to 4 2 3 1 despite saying he's going to take it slowly and not change to much.
So no, appreciate you backing him, I certainly did for a while, but lets be honest, he's pretty much shown himself up as a bad manager without his assistant. |  |
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| Lots of little digs at Cook but on 12:01 - Feb 22 with 629 views | SE1blue |
Have a look at Colchester’s starting XI on Saturday and that’s all you need to know that a change of squad was really needed.
He gets my thanks for that. |  |
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| Lots of little digs at Cook but on 12:05 - Feb 22 with 622 views | jeera |
| Lots of little digs at Cook but on 07:28 - Feb 22 by theinbetweener |
Exactly this. |
No it isn't. It's a load of hypothetical nonsense.
If this had happened then this, if that had happened then that...
It still ignores we were just outside the play-offs.
Cook came in and fecked everything up. |  |
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| Lots of little digs at Cook but on 12:08 - Feb 22 with 611 views | Swansea_Blue |
| Lots of little digs at Cook but on 11:51 - Feb 21 by LeoMuff |
He clearly isn’t an awful manager, had great success at Wigan, Portsmouth and Chesterfield. Also had us in top 6 form from start of September to the end of October and was de railed by the Burns injury and a tough run of league games.
I wouldn’t swap him back for McKenna that’s for sure, and we look a far superior side in terms of organisation and resilience , but he definitely did get a tune out of this side at times just very inconsistently and let’s face it we may have struggled in some of the McKenna games without Burns he is far too good for league 1. |
He was awful for us. An old school, inflexible shouty type who (together with the team he put together around himself) didn't seem to be up to the job of getting the players ready for games.
He may well have had some success before, but there was little sign of him ever being able to replicate that with us. He had a brief, good spell against lower opposition, but we were still fragile and crumbled against the better teams. Besides, his overall record speaks for itself. Our 3rd worst full-time manager ever in the lowest level we've been at for 60 years. |  |
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| Lots of little digs at Cook but on 12:11 - Feb 22 with 605 views | jeera |
| Lots of little digs at Cook but on 12:08 - Feb 22 by Swansea_Blue |
He was awful for us. An old school, inflexible shouty type who (together with the team he put together around himself) didn't seem to be up to the job of getting the players ready for games.
He may well have had some success before, but there was little sign of him ever being able to replicate that with us. He had a brief, good spell against lower opposition, but we were still fragile and crumbled against the better teams. Besides, his overall record speaks for itself. Our 3rd worst full-time manager ever in the lowest level we've been at for 60 years. |
It's incredible watching these posts pop up.
It's like there's people who decided he would be good so he was good. The end.
It's like all the other stuff between him joining and leaving didn't happen at all.
We are still worse off positionally than when he joined. Why is this being ignored in every single supportive post? | |
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| Lots of little digs at Cook but on 12:30 - Feb 22 with 591 views | PJH |
| Lots of little digs at Cook but on 12:11 - Feb 22 by jeera |
It's incredible watching these posts pop up.
It's like there's people who decided he would be good so he was good. The end.
It's like all the other stuff between him joining and leaving didn't happen at all.
We are still worse off positionally than when he joined. Why is this being ignored in every single supportive post? |
I imagine the club are saving a bit on coffee and plastic cups since he went though, so that is one (or two) good things. |  | | |
| Lots of little digs at Cook but on 13:32 - Feb 22 with 540 views | thecheek |
Cook was an abject failure with 2 different squads here.
The way we dropped away from a position where the play offs were not out of the question when he came in last season was a sign of things to come.
A clear out was obviously needed but didn't he say something along those lines as soon as he arrived? Hardly much motivation for a group of players fighting to get into the play offs... |  | | |
| Lots of little digs at Cook but on 14:13 - Feb 22 with 507 views | Veggie |
Well I liked Cookie. |  | | |
| Lots of little digs at Cook but on 14:46 - Feb 22 with 487 views | Tangledupin_Blue |
| Lots of little digs at Cook but on 00:11 - Feb 22 by ArnieM |
Whilst not intending to defend Cook here. Another reason why this new group is now better is quite likely due to the simple fact that it was ALWAYS going to take most of this season for them to bed in and become a cohesive team (See Aluko’s interview). Yes many will point the finger at Cook and say , oh he was shyte…. Was too one dimensional etc etc. yes that’s true. But so is the fact it was a completely new squad . I seriously doubt McKenna would have faired any better in those first 6 games of the season with this brand new squad , ALL of whom were trying to settle in a new area in
The country, re settle their families, get know new team mates names let alone style of play etc .
Just to clarify :
We have a much better coach now.
The squad at 3/4 way through this season is starting to really help and motor .
It was always going to take the majority of this season for these wholesale changes to settle down.
We are starting to see the benefits of these MANY changes as things bed in .
I’m many ways Cook played and integral part in this clubs transformation BECAUSE he ripped up the sad excuse of the previous squad that had underperformed for 3-4 years under Lambert. Someone had to do the demolition job. Hurst talked about it bug got no support from Evans and succumbed to an element of player power I think .. Lambert just added more deadwood and couldn’t make a decision to save his life. Cook finally ripped it up but didn’t have the flexibility or coaching back up to mould his new squad into a decent team - and certainly not in just 20 games! But he’s played his part . So maybe we should accept his part in the grand scale of this clubs transformation for what it is and get behind McKenna and see where that takes us. As Ashton has said it’s like tufnimg two oil tankers ….. so to blame Cook for everything is frankly ridiculous. |
You doubt that McKenna would have done better in the fiest six games...
We led against Burton and lost.
We led twice against MK and drew.
We led Wimbledon 2-0 and drew.
We led against Bolton and were thrashed.
We became progressively worse with each game.
McKenna has already shown that he is able to manage a game. He WOULD have done better. |  |
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| Lots of little digs at Cook but on 15:17 - Feb 22 with 461 views | Stewart27 |
Recruitment was par.
Coaching was well below. | | | |
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