| Next season 10:04 - Apr 16 with 1228 views | Wallingford_Boy |
Derby, Sunderland, Barnsley the ones to beat?
Play offs for us. |  |
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| Next season on 10:10 - Apr 16 with 1198 views | BLUEGOLD |
Plus a few of the 9 above us who don’t go up. |  | | |
| Exactly! on 10:22 - Apr 16 with 1171 views | unstableblue |
| Next season on 10:10 - Apr 16 by BLUEGOLD |
Plus a few of the 9 above us who don’t go up. |
Rotherham, Plymouth, Sheff Weds, Sunderland, Wycombe, Oxford (bar one)
Add Pompey, Bolton
Then those inevitably tricky games against the likes of Accrington, Charlton, Lincoln, Cambridge and Shrewsbury
Bast@rd league, was always going to be a remarkable effort to get out of it and will be a challenge again next year.
I believe in McKenna… but I’d like some wins today and Tuesday to keep the momentum into next term |  |
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| Next season on 10:23 - Apr 16 with 1167 views | ITFC_Forever |
All the teams that finish above us this season who don’t go up, plus the three that come down. |  |
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| Next season on 10:27 - Apr 16 with 1157 views | FrimleyBlue |
Just win or lose. Don't draw games.
Hull won the league despite losing 11 games.
Getting draws is fine against those at the top end as it stops them gaining points on us. But we just can't keep drawing against the lower league sides. If we do we will never go up. |  |
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| Next season on 10:30 - Apr 16 with 1148 views | hoppy |
We’ll also be on every other club’s lists as one of the ones to beat… starting from a completely level point, and without knowing what transfer business we’ll do this summer, how can anyone think playoffs/automatic/struggling? We’ve got every chance (and probably more than most) of being up there or thereabouts. I will remain as hopeful as I do at the start of every season that ‘this year will be the one when we win the league’. |  |
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| Exactly! on 10:32 - Apr 16 with 1135 views | strikalite |
| Exactly! on 10:22 - Apr 16 by unstableblue |
Rotherham, Plymouth, Sheff Weds, Sunderland, Wycombe, Oxford (bar one)
Add Pompey, Bolton
Then those inevitably tricky games against the likes of Accrington, Charlton, Lincoln, Cambridge and Shrewsbury
Bast@rd league, was always going to be a remarkable effort to get out of it and will be a challenge again next year.
I believe in McKenna… but I’d like some wins today and Tuesday to keep the momentum into next term |
You missed the team off from Cambridgeshire who batter us everywhere we go..
Living here I can't bring myself to name them..
I'm still not over it. |  | | |
| Next season on 10:43 - Apr 16 with 1097 views | pointofblue |
| Next season on 10:30 - Apr 16 by hoppy |
We’ll also be on every other club’s lists as one of the ones to beat… starting from a completely level point, and without knowing what transfer business we’ll do this summer, how can anyone think playoffs/automatic/struggling? We’ve got every chance (and probably more than most) of being up there or thereabouts. I will remain as hopeful as I do at the start of every season that ‘this year will be the one when we win the league’. |
There’s no reason why we shouldn’t have won the league this year.
We could and should have picked up more points under McKenna and perhaps key injuries affected us when we were about to go on a run (possibly would have picked up four more points from Oxford and Shrewsbury with Edmundson, would Evans’ presence given us a better chance at Wednesday, how many more would we have scored had Jackson stayed fit?). But the lack of change to approach to try to aid our goalscoring woes does slightly concern me heading into the summer, especially the lack of development at set pieces. | |
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| Next season on 10:47 - Apr 16 with 1089 views | SitfcB |
| Next season on 10:27 - Apr 16 by FrimleyBlue |
Just win or lose. Don't draw games.
Hull won the league despite losing 11 games.
Getting draws is fine against those at the top end as it stops them gaining points on us. But we just can't keep drawing against the lower league sides. If we do we will never go up. |
You would rather lose than draw?
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| Next season on 10:51 - Apr 16 with 1077 views | FrimleyBlue |
| Next season on 10:47 - Apr 16 by SitfcB |
You would rather lose than draw?
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I'd rather us try to win at all costs and end up losing rather than sitting on a draw in some games yes.
These sides banging in goals in the final 5 minutes etc aren't taking the draws as acceptable results. We have for years. "If you'd offered me a point I wouldn't have got on the bus" etc as an example.
As I said. Draws happen. But I'd rather they happen against those competing for promotion not when you're playing bottom 5 clubs when the rivals are beating them themselves. | |
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| Next season on 10:58 - Apr 16 with 1035 views | pointofblue |
| Next season on 10:47 - Apr 16 by SitfcB |
You would rather lose than draw?
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Winning three and losing three results in more points than winning one and drawing five. Draws are useful but they can end up killing you too.
Our record since McKenna took over is W10 D6 L3. If we’d lost six but won 13 with no draws we’d have three more points on the board than we do now - not a game changer on itself but replicate across the season, where we’ve drawn 14… if we split the draws between wins and losses (overall record W24 D0 L18) we’d be on 72 points, four points off fifth place Wycombe with a game in hand over them. | |
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| Exactly! on 10:59 - Apr 16 with 1030 views | unstableblue |
| Exactly! on 10:32 - Apr 16 by strikalite |
You missed the team off from Cambridgeshire who batter us everywhere we go..
Living here I can't bring myself to name them..
I'm still not over it. |
Oh I didn’t miss them:
“ Then those inevitably tricky games against the likes of Accrington, Charlton, Lincoln, Cambridge and Shrewsbury”
And on a serious note, that Cambridge ‘derby’ and the importance for them, becomes two ‘lottery’ games, 6 points harder to get | |
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| Next season on 11:00 - Apr 16 with 1025 views | Edmundo |
| Next season on 10:51 - Apr 16 by FrimleyBlue |
I'd rather us try to win at all costs and end up losing rather than sitting on a draw in some games yes.
These sides banging in goals in the final 5 minutes etc aren't taking the draws as acceptable results. We have for years. "If you'd offered me a point I wouldn't have got on the bus" etc as an example.
As I said. Draws happen. But I'd rather they happen against those competing for promotion not when you're playing bottom 5 clubs when the rivals are beating them themselves. |
100% agree. It's got to be go for the win in all cases unless it's against a team that's challenging us for a promotion spot. |  |
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| Next season on 11:11 - Apr 16 with 976 views | broncos77 |
| Next season on 10:51 - Apr 16 by FrimleyBlue |
I'd rather us try to win at all costs and end up losing rather than sitting on a draw in some games yes.
These sides banging in goals in the final 5 minutes etc aren't taking the draws as acceptable results. We have for years. "If you'd offered me a point I wouldn't have got on the bus" etc as an example.
As I said. Draws happen. But I'd rather they happen against those competing for promotion not when you're playing bottom 5 clubs when the rivals are beating them themselves. |
Many on here falling into the same trap as last summer - thinking we have the richest owners, biggest budget, best players, best team in the league by some distance, - i.e. just have to turn up and we'll win the league by a mile
Optimism at the start of a season is good and natural , but complacency can be a killer - look at Cook et al last August, and most fans!
There are 6 teams above us who won't go up, Bolton and Charlton below, + 3 teams coming down , 2 (Barnsley and Peterborough) who have had recent success at this level, and Derby who are a complete unknown
Yes, good reasons why we should be able to compete with them all, but a more realistic expectation based on 2nd half this season is 4th-6th and playoffs
The big point (for me) is that Teams very rarely win promotion from League 1 playing a lone striker - all those in the mix this year have 2 good strikers (Plymouth rotate 4) ; MK Dons a little exception but they have 2 outstanding 'support' players in Twine and Parrott.
You may get success at Prem or Championship with the McK formation, but not 'down' here The other key is to have a goal-scoring centre-back ( 6-8 goals maybe)
So, can McK adjust his thinking and recruit enough to accommodate these 2 key needs; if so that should lift from 4-6th being likely to seriously challenging for automatic | | | |
| Next season on 11:11 - Apr 16 with 975 views | ParisBlue |
| Next season on 10:27 - Apr 16 by FrimleyBlue |
Just win or lose. Don't draw games.
Hull won the league despite losing 11 games.
Getting draws is fine against those at the top end as it stops them gaining points on us. But we just can't keep drawing against the lower league sides. If we do we will never go up. |
Correct. We should aim to win every game. I've some hope KM has the same philosophy given he has a plan for each opposition and doesn't seem happy to settle for draws. |  |
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| Next season on 11:16 - Apr 16 with 960 views | wrightsrightglove |
| Next season on 10:58 - Apr 16 by pointofblue |
Winning three and losing three results in more points than winning one and drawing five. Draws are useful but they can end up killing you too.
Our record since McKenna took over is W10 D6 L3. If we’d lost six but won 13 with no draws we’d have three more points on the board than we do now - not a game changer on itself but replicate across the season, where we’ve drawn 14… if we split the draws between wins and losses (overall record W24 D0 L18) we’d be on 72 points, four points off fifth place Wycombe with a game in hand over them. |
McKenna doesn’t seem like a manager who’s going to settle for drawing against anyone. He might have had the perfect players at his disposal this season but I can’t remember a game where we’ve been drawing and he’s made a substitution aimed at closing the game out, they’ve always seemed to be about trying to get the win. Hopefully that continues next season. | | | |
| Next season on 11:17 - Apr 16 with 952 views | Kieran_Knows |
Winners, with considerable ease. |  |
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| Next season on 11:23 - Apr 16 with 930 views | pointofblue |
| Next season on 11:11 - Apr 16 by broncos77 |
Many on here falling into the same trap as last summer - thinking we have the richest owners, biggest budget, best players, best team in the league by some distance, - i.e. just have to turn up and we'll win the league by a mile
Optimism at the start of a season is good and natural , but complacency can be a killer - look at Cook et al last August, and most fans!
There are 6 teams above us who won't go up, Bolton and Charlton below, + 3 teams coming down , 2 (Barnsley and Peterborough) who have had recent success at this level, and Derby who are a complete unknown
Yes, good reasons why we should be able to compete with them all, but a more realistic expectation based on 2nd half this season is 4th-6th and playoffs
The big point (for me) is that Teams very rarely win promotion from League 1 playing a lone striker - all those in the mix this year have 2 good strikers (Plymouth rotate 4) ; MK Dons a little exception but they have 2 outstanding 'support' players in Twine and Parrott.
You may get success at Prem or Championship with the McK formation, but not 'down' here The other key is to have a goal-scoring centre-back ( 6-8 goals maybe)
So, can McK adjust his thinking and recruit enough to accommodate these 2 key needs; if so that should lift from 4-6th being likely to seriously challenging for automatic |
Heaven help anyone daring to think having the best squad in the division should mean we expect to win promotion. And already we’re downplaying expectations for next season.
Anything but promotion in 22/23 will be another failure. | |
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| Next season on 13:46 - Apr 16 with 817 views | The_Flashing_Smile |
| Next season on 10:51 - Apr 16 by FrimleyBlue |
I'd rather us try to win at all costs and end up losing rather than sitting on a draw in some games yes.
These sides banging in goals in the final 5 minutes etc aren't taking the draws as acceptable results. We have for years. "If you'd offered me a point I wouldn't have got on the bus" etc as an example.
As I said. Draws happen. But I'd rather they happen against those competing for promotion not when you're playing bottom 5 clubs when the rivals are beating them themselves. |
When has McKenna played for a draw? I can't remember a single time. |  |
| Trust the process. Trust Phil. |
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| Next season on 13:46 - Apr 16 with 812 views | The_Flashing_Smile |
Impossible to say given we don't know what players we're going to buy. | |
| Trust the process. Trust Phil. |
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| Next season on 14:12 - Apr 16 with 777 views | Stewart27 |
Mixed feelings for me.
I’m really optimistic going into the summer this year. A quality young manager, clear direction off the field and a really good league one spine on the pitch.
However, we’re an institutionalised league one club now. The longer we’ve been here, there are more and more teams who are now difficult to beat. Today is a prime example of this. | | | |
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