| Excellent result tonight for Boris 21:29 - Jun 6 with 4017 views | FrimleyBlue |
Not easy being the PM during one of the toughest few years this country has had for many decades.
Time for the out brigade to grow up now and work together to deliver their promises.
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| Excellent result tonight for Boris on 22:55 - Jun 6 with 1478 views | Nthsuffolkblue |
| Excellent result tonight for Boris on 22:52 - Jun 6 by FrimleyBlue |
What has tonight achieved exactly? That's my point, it doesn't change anything, it was never going to go any other way tonight.
Boris is a spokesman of the party they are all part of. If things are broken, they too are part of the problem. Get rid of Boris, what then. The next spokesman runs the party to the ground just like the last one, the one before and the one before that. Rather than wasting time and money on bull like tonight, work together to actually get the country moving in the right direction. |
Except there won't be a General Election for a few more years. As a result this party will continue to do mover damage. You are right, though, that Johnson or someone else they are the same party. |  |
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| Excellent result tonight for Boris on 23:06 - Jun 6 with 1441 views | FrimleyBlue |
| Excellent result tonight for Boris on 22:54 - Jun 6 by StokieBlue |
You've made a mistake in your post.
I can't see a random comparison to Bennetts anywhere in there so I'll give you a few minutes to edit it. I know Bennetts and Boris both starting in a "B" could be confusing when you're cutting and pasting.
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Yeah. Not really interested in playing forum games SB. You crack on tho if that's what you enjoy. | |
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| Excellent result tonight for Boris on 23:10 - Jun 6 with 1428 views | FrimleyBlue |
| Excellent result tonight for Boris on 22:55 - Jun 6 by Nthsuffolkblue |
Except there won't be a General Election for a few more years. As a result this party will continue to do mover damage. You are right, though, that Johnson or someone else they are the same party. |
Exactly that. And thats why tonight has really annoyed me tbh. It was just so pointless and counter productive.
Getting Boris out wouldn't change a thing. The country is in the shtter and rather than sitting down and actually sorting it out they would rather vote on which mug runs the same sht party to continue to run it the same sht way. | |
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| Excellent result tonight for Boris on 23:20 - Jun 6 with 1414 views | StokieBlue |
| Excellent result tonight for Boris on 23:06 - Jun 6 by FrimleyBlue |
Yeah. Not really interested in playing forum games SB. You crack on tho if that's what you enjoy. |
I'm just using the forum for it's intended purpose.
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| Excellent result tonight for Boris on 23:22 - Jun 6 with 1403 views | FrimleyBlue |
| Excellent result tonight for Boris on 23:20 - Jun 6 by StokieBlue |
I'm just using the forum for it's intended purpose.
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Good for you. :) enjoy your evening | |
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| Excellent result tonight for Boris on 23:23 - Jun 6 with 1401 views | jeera |
| Excellent result tonight for Boris on 23:06 - Jun 6 by FrimleyBlue |
Yeah. Not really interested in playing forum games SB. You crack on tho if that's what you enjoy. |
What? After posting an OP like that.
Wtf are you on about?
Trolling idiot. |  |
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| Excellent result tonight for Boris on 23:35 - Jun 6 with 1376 views | MattinLondon |
| Excellent result tonight for Boris on 23:10 - Jun 6 by FrimleyBlue |
Exactly that. And thats why tonight has really annoyed me tbh. It was just so pointless and counter productive.
Getting Boris out wouldn't change a thing. The country is in the shtter and rather than sitting down and actually sorting it out they would rather vote on which mug runs the same sht party to continue to run it the same sht way. |
Just because politicians belong to the same party as each other it doesn’t mean that they share exactly the same beliefs. Some Tories are ardent Brexiters, some don’t and some believe what they think is popular the moment. |  | | |
| Excellent result tonight for Boris on 23:37 - Jun 6 with 1379 views | FrimleyBlue |
| Excellent result tonight for Boris on 23:23 - Jun 6 by jeera |
What? After posting an OP like that.
Wtf are you on about?
Trolling idiot. |
No intent for it to come across as trolling hence my participation in the thread. There's been a fair bit of talk about tonight's vote so felt it was OK to do the same.
I think the majority on the forum have an overall agreement that the current government aren't quite doing good enough, I thinks it's fair to say that the MP outers should now concentrate on working together rather than trying to get a new spokesman. If you don't agree that's fine. | |
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| Excellent result tonight for Boris on 00:19 - Jun 7 with 1318 views | BLUEGOLD |
| Excellent result tonight for Boris on 23:37 - Jun 6 by FrimleyBlue |
No intent for it to come across as trolling hence my participation in the thread. There's been a fair bit of talk about tonight's vote so felt it was OK to do the same.
I think the majority on the forum have an overall agreement that the current government aren't quite doing good enough, I thinks it's fair to say that the MP outers should now concentrate on working together rather than trying to get a new spokesman. If you don't agree that's fine. |
He isn’t a spokesman, he is the person who decides what the government does.
He is a serial liar who has been sacked for lying twice before, lied to the Queen about proroguing Parliament and of course lied numerous times about parties and rule breaking.
Almost anyone would be better than him, Dorries, Raab & Truss excluded as they are thick as mince.
This version of the Tories is the worst bunch of incompetents ever to form a government, led by a man who is lazy, has no ideas and is thrashing around for policies to keep him in a job.
Anyone who contemplates voting for them is a bit of a tool. I can see the Lib Dem’s getting a lot of ex Tory votes, but not many seats. |  | | |
| Excellent result tonight for Boris on 00:51 - Jun 7 with 1282 views | ArnoldMoorhen |
| Excellent result tonight for Boris on 23:37 - Jun 6 by FrimleyBlue |
No intent for it to come across as trolling hence my participation in the thread. There's been a fair bit of talk about tonight's vote so felt it was OK to do the same.
I think the majority on the forum have an overall agreement that the current government aren't quite doing good enough, I thinks it's fair to say that the MP outers should now concentrate on working together rather than trying to get a new spokesman. If you don't agree that's fine. |
If you don't know the difference between the Prime Minister and a Government spokesperson then you are probably not the best person to be giving advice to MPs as to what they should do next.
If you want to understand why so many Tory MPs did what they did tonight you could start by reading Jesse Norman's letter to Boris Johnson explaining why he has lost confidence in him:
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| Excellent result tonight for Boris on 01:17 - Jun 7 with 1269 views | HARRY10 |
| Excellent result tonight for Boris on 23:10 - Jun 6 by FrimleyBlue |
Exactly that. And thats why tonight has really annoyed me tbh. It was just so pointless and counter productive.
Getting Boris out wouldn't change a thing. The country is in the shtter and rather than sitting down and actually sorting it out they would rather vote on which mug runs the same sht party to continue to run it the same sht way. |
I know the bull is running amok in the china shop, but we should sit down and work out how to glue the broken crockery rather than spending time getting the bull out of the shop | | | |
| Excellent result tonight for Boris on 06:13 - Jun 7 with 1196 views | BlueNomad |
| Excellent result tonight for Boris on 23:37 - Jun 6 by FrimleyBlue |
No intent for it to come across as trolling hence my participation in the thread. There's been a fair bit of talk about tonight's vote so felt it was OK to do the same.
I think the majority on the forum have an overall agreement that the current government aren't quite doing good enough, I thinks it's fair to say that the MP outers should now concentrate on working together rather than trying to get a new spokesman. If you don't agree that's fine. |
“Aren’t quite doing enough”???? Aren’t QUITE??? Please rephrase to reflect reality - “they aren’t doing anything except ruin this country further……” |  | | |
| Excellent result tonight for Boris on 08:24 - Jun 7 with 1106 views | ZXBlue |
| Excellent result tonight for Boris on 23:37 - Jun 6 by FrimleyBlue |
No intent for it to come across as trolling hence my participation in the thread. There's been a fair bit of talk about tonight's vote so felt it was OK to do the same.
I think the majority on the forum have an overall agreement that the current government aren't quite doing good enough, I thinks it's fair to say that the MP outers should now concentrate on working together rather than trying to get a new spokesman. If you don't agree that's fine. |
"Aren't quite doing good enough"?
This is a man and cabinet who have persistently undermined the rule of law, basic conventions of integrity and transparency in public office and have normalised that behaviour and minimised its importance at every opportunity.
Sod policies, THESE things are massive and far more important than many seem to acknowledge. | | | |
| Excellent result tonight for Boris on 08:32 - Jun 7 with 1101 views | BiGDonnie |
Go back to barely posting at all, you've been bearable recently. |  |
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| Excellent result tonight for Boris on 09:09 - Jun 7 with 1049 views | BanksterDebtSlave |
| Excellent result tonight for Boris on 22:41 - Jun 6 by StokieBlue |
At first I was afraid, I was mesmerised
Kept thinking I could never live without your hot takes at my side
But then I spent so many nights thinking how you did me wrong
And I grew strong
And I learned how to get along
And so you're back
Talking so much sh*te
I just walked in to find you here with that smug look upon your face
I should have changed that stupid lock, Phil should have made you leave your key
If I'd known for just one second you'd be back to bother everyone.
One of the worst no confidence results by a Tory leader for 40 years and this is your take. I knew you were stupid, I guess I never knew how stupid.
SB [Post edited 6 Jun 2022 23:06]
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Me and everyone are very different. You should have stuck with what scans better.
Celina definitely improved his all around game with a better coach. |  |
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| Excellent result tonight for Boris on 09:09 - Jun 7 with 1048 views | FrimleyBlue |
| Excellent result tonight for Boris on 06:13 - Jun 7 by BlueNomad |
“Aren’t quite doing enough”???? Aren’t QUITE??? Please rephrase to reflect reality - “they aren’t doing anything except ruin this country further……” |
TBF i've under evaluated with that phrase, you're spot on.
What I feel however and why I refer to Boris as the spokesman is that this Party is no better than the man himself. He doesn't lead, he speaks for those around him who push their decisions on him, Rishi is a prime example of this as shown during the pandemic with the eat out to help out rubbish that did nothing but create a bigger problem.
For me the party never appears to be on the same page, doesn't matter if it's Brexit, the pandemic, energy, there's just infighting on every single issue, it's incredible imo that 1 party can have such a split within it's own circle and that for me says that no matter who is in charge, nothing would actually change, so I go back to why I think last night was pointless.
There will be others on the forum with a lot more knowledge on politics, which is why i've enjoyed reading some other posts, and this thread is created by a relative newcomer when it comes to politics so no doubts at all, i'll have things within this thead which is wrong, but it's just a personal view on how I see it. | |
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| Excellent result tonight for Boris on 09:12 - Jun 7 with 1041 views | BanksterDebtSlave |
| Excellent result tonight for Boris on 23:20 - Jun 6 by StokieBlue |
I'm just using the forum for it's intended purpose.
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Is that a 2 way expression of views? Hot take! | |
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| Excellent result tonight for Boris on 09:33 - Jun 7 with 1006 views | SaleAway |
| Excellent result tonight for Boris on 09:09 - Jun 7 by FrimleyBlue |
TBF i've under evaluated with that phrase, you're spot on.
What I feel however and why I refer to Boris as the spokesman is that this Party is no better than the man himself. He doesn't lead, he speaks for those around him who push their decisions on him, Rishi is a prime example of this as shown during the pandemic with the eat out to help out rubbish that did nothing but create a bigger problem.
For me the party never appears to be on the same page, doesn't matter if it's Brexit, the pandemic, energy, there's just infighting on every single issue, it's incredible imo that 1 party can have such a split within it's own circle and that for me says that no matter who is in charge, nothing would actually change, so I go back to why I think last night was pointless.
There will be others on the forum with a lot more knowledge on politics, which is why i've enjoyed reading some other posts, and this thread is created by a relative newcomer when it comes to politics so no doubts at all, i'll have things within this thead which is wrong, but it's just a personal view on how I see it. |
Do you not think that the division and in-fighting is down to the leader though? He doesn't believe in anything, other than power for power's sake. If they had a leader that actually had some policies or direction of travel, then they could find common ground, or tweak those policies into something coherent. As it is, everything is reactive, they are constantly firefighting because of his indecisiveness, and misdemeanors. The idea of changing the leader would be to stop, reset, and at least start from somewhere where a majority of the party were aligned with what the leader was trying to achieve, as it is, I don't think anyone knows what Johnson wants to do, other than cling to power. | |
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| Excellent result tonight for Boris on 09:42 - Jun 7 with 978 views | Mookamoo |
| Excellent result tonight for Boris on 09:09 - Jun 7 by FrimleyBlue |
TBF i've under evaluated with that phrase, you're spot on.
What I feel however and why I refer to Boris as the spokesman is that this Party is no better than the man himself. He doesn't lead, he speaks for those around him who push their decisions on him, Rishi is a prime example of this as shown during the pandemic with the eat out to help out rubbish that did nothing but create a bigger problem.
For me the party never appears to be on the same page, doesn't matter if it's Brexit, the pandemic, energy, there's just infighting on every single issue, it's incredible imo that 1 party can have such a split within it's own circle and that for me says that no matter who is in charge, nothing would actually change, so I go back to why I think last night was pointless.
There will be others on the forum with a lot more knowledge on politics, which is why i've enjoyed reading some other posts, and this thread is created by a relative newcomer when it comes to politics so no doubts at all, i'll have things within this thead which is wrong, but it's just a personal view on how I see it. |
But the senior ministerial appointees that can affect change are the direct choice of Johnson and his inner circle and his need to broker support.
There is no way on earth Nadine Dorris would be anywhere near a position of responsibility if it were not for Johnson. And I'm not sure anyone outside Johnson's circle really thinks Ben Wallace is the best person to deal with an increasingly desperate Russian military. |  | | |
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