| Another day another journalist owned by Mick Lynch 07:18 - Jun 23 with 10271 views | GlasgowBlue |
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| Another day another journalist owned by Mick Lynch on 12:56 - Jun 23 with 1226 views | unbelievablue |
| Another day another journalist owned by Mick Lynch on 12:49 - Jun 23 by benrhyddingblue |
That isn't Communism or Marxism. So many people bandy these words around without any clue whatsoever about what they mean. |
A long and chequered history of semantic wrangling led us here. It makes little sense that Marxism is even a term within Historical Materialism. And yet here it is, being bandied about without any real understanding. |  |
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| Another day another journalist owned by Mick Lynch on 12:59 - Jun 23 with 1218 views | unbelievablue |
| Another day another journalist owned by Mick Lynch on 12:55 - Jun 23 by HARRY10 |
Given there is no such thing as the British Communist Party, your claim of support should point others to the accuracy of your nonsense.
Industrial action in the early part of the 70s came about after Anthony Barbers (Tory) disastrous 'Dash for Growth', with a QUADRUPLING of oil prices in 1974. That there were widespread industrial action throughout the now EU suggests you are like other righties and follow a 'stabbed in the back narrative of history. ie no relation to the truth but suiting your warped sense of perception.
Ir should be remembered that when Nissan built their factory in Sunderland they invited the union into the factory, to work with them. Rather than continue the Tories outdated Victorian idea that employees are the enemy, and need to be provoked into industrial action, regularly.
I would suggest Phil removes your post as, were it to be seen outside this forum it would certainly be libellous. But I think it better serves as a testament to the lies righties will spread on behalf of their betters. And a measure of the stupidity that they assume that others did not live through those years, and/or could easily look up stuff.
Never forget it was French right-wingers that rounded up Jews in France in WW2. The dirty work is always done by the 'kapos' *
* recruited from the ranks of violent criminal gangs rather than from the more numerous political, religious, and racial prisoners
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"Never forget it was French right-wingers that rounded up Jews in France in WW2. The dirty work is always done by the 'kapos' *
* recruited from the ranks of violent criminal gangs rather than from the more numerous political, religious, and racial prisoners"
There is a grain of truth in this but it is a very problematic statement regardless. | |
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| Another day another journalist owned by Mick Lynch on 13:09 - Jun 23 with 1196 views | meekreech |
| Another day another journalist owned by Mick Lynch on 11:06 - Jun 23 by bluebudgie |
Lynch was supported by British Communist Party when he ran for the leadership of the union, he has already said he admires the unions from the 70s and wants that power back again. I'm not sure how many of you on here were alive in the 70s but the unions along with a weak Labour government dragged the Uk down with the three-day week decimation of the motor industry dock strikes causing shortages in the shops and the winter of discontent. That's a period that I don't want back again thank you even if it seems the left-wingers on here would love it. The government put 16 billion into the railways to keep it running over the covid period so the rail workers would have jobs to go back to and passager numbers are now only two-thirds of what they were pre covid, now is not the time to organise a rail strike but this is obviously a Lynch vanity project who sees himself very much in the mold of Scargill! [Post edited 23 Jun 2022 11:08]
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At last someone else has been able to remember the dreadful state of the country when we were held to ransom by the unions being able to do whatever they wanted with the government of Wilson unable to respond, being afraid to lose their financial support.
Lynch and his union leadership group, I include all of the public sector unions in the group, are not actually acting in the best interests of their members , because the result of the unrest caused some workers to benefit but the vast majority were left behind to suffer the consequences of the greed of the few.
I speak from bitter experience as my union membership did not save my job due to different unions wanting total control over the workforce but my union leadership refused and so we were unable to stay employed by that company as we all refused to be forced to join such unions, |  |
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| Another day another journalist owned by Mick Lynch on 13:16 - Jun 23 with 1168 views | BLUEGOLD |
| Another day another journalist owned by Mick Lynch on 11:06 - Jun 23 by bluebudgie |
Lynch was supported by British Communist Party when he ran for the leadership of the union, he has already said he admires the unions from the 70s and wants that power back again. I'm not sure how many of you on here were alive in the 70s but the unions along with a weak Labour government dragged the Uk down with the three-day week decimation of the motor industry dock strikes causing shortages in the shops and the winter of discontent. That's a period that I don't want back again thank you even if it seems the left-wingers on here would love it. The government put 16 billion into the railways to keep it running over the covid period so the rail workers would have jobs to go back to and passager numbers are now only two-thirds of what they were pre covid, now is not the time to organise a rail strike but this is obviously a Lynch vanity project who sees himself very much in the mold of Scargill! [Post edited 23 Jun 2022 11:08]
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| Another day another journalist owned by Mick Lynch on 13:22 - Jun 23 with 1158 views | BLUEGOLD |
| Another day another journalist owned by Mick Lynch on 13:09 - Jun 23 by meekreech |
At last someone else has been able to remember the dreadful state of the country when we were held to ransom by the unions being able to do whatever they wanted with the government of Wilson unable to respond, being afraid to lose their financial support.
Lynch and his union leadership group, I include all of the public sector unions in the group, are not actually acting in the best interests of their members , because the result of the unrest caused some workers to benefit but the vast majority were left behind to suffer the consequences of the greed of the few.
I speak from bitter experience as my union membership did not save my job due to different unions wanting total control over the workforce but my union leadership refused and so we were unable to stay employed by that company as we all refused to be forced to join such unions, |
Please read about what unions do before posting your GB News, Daily Mail nonsense.
Why are you right wingers all so frickin stupid? | | | |
| Another day another journalist owned by Mick Lynch on 13:37 - Jun 23 with 1142 views | jaykay |
| Another day another journalist owned by Mick Lynch on 10:43 - Jun 23 by meekreech |
The proof is in the statements made by him regarding nationalisation of the railways, banking and anything which can be seen to make a profit, although without the billions supplied by the state the railways do not, and the constant overmanning which he will protect to his dying day.
He yearns for a return to the days of beer and sandwiches in no.10 to enable the country to be dragged back into union control. I just hope I do not live to see another labour/union government in this country. It would take even longer to get the country back to a sensible existence and positive future. |
i expect you are someone who benefits from some of these paid holidays, sick pay. not to be paid under a certain figure , not be unfairly dismissed , to be paid a overtime rate . paid maternity or paternity leave , anti -discrimination =race and disability etc . but what have the union ever done for worker |  |
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| Another day another journalist owned by Mick Lynch on 13:42 - Jun 23 with 1115 views | BLUEGOLD |
| Another day another journalist owned by Mick Lynch on 13:37 - Jun 23 by jaykay |
i expect you are someone who benefits from some of these paid holidays, sick pay. not to be paid under a certain figure , not be unfairly dismissed , to be paid a overtime rate . paid maternity or paternity leave , anti -discrimination =race and disability etc . but what have the union ever done for worker |
But I’m sure that he loved Brexit and sending some forriners to Rwanda though.
In the past 43 years there have been 31 under the Tories, but it’s the 1970 Labour governments to blame.
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| Another day another journalist owned by Mick Lynch on 14:04 - Jun 23 with 1085 views | STYG |
| Another day another journalist owned by Mick Lynch on 13:42 - Jun 23 by BLUEGOLD |
But I’m sure that he loved Brexit and sending some forriners to Rwanda though.
In the past 43 years there have been 31 under the Tories, but it’s the 1970 Labour governments to blame.
Thick as mince |
Imagine not blaming Evans, Hurst, Cook, Keane, Jewell, McCarthy, Lambert for us being in League One whilst arguing, with a straight face, that it was all the fault of John Duncan and Glenn Penneyfather. | | | |
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| Another day another journalist owned by Mick Lynch on 14:23 - Jun 23 with 1071 views | HARRY10 |
| Another day another journalist owned by Mick Lynch on 12:59 - Jun 23 by unbelievablue |
"Never forget it was French right-wingers that rounded up Jews in France in WW2. The dirty work is always done by the 'kapos' *
* recruited from the ranks of violent criminal gangs rather than from the more numerous political, religious, and racial prisoners"
There is a grain of truth in this but it is a very problematic statement regardless. |
A grain !
The Milice were given the responsibility if rounding up Jews
Kapos who work in the camps were invariably as described
What next ?
There is a grain of truth in the thought that Germany was involved in WW2 | | | |
| Another day another journalist owned by Mick Lynch on 14:32 - Jun 23 with 1059 views | HARRY10 |
| Another day another journalist owned by Mick Lynch on 13:09 - Jun 23 by meekreech |
At last someone else has been able to remember the dreadful state of the country when we were held to ransom by the unions being able to do whatever they wanted with the government of Wilson unable to respond, being afraid to lose their financial support.
Lynch and his union leadership group, I include all of the public sector unions in the group, are not actually acting in the best interests of their members , because the result of the unrest caused some workers to benefit but the vast majority were left behind to suffer the consequences of the greed of the few.
I speak from bitter experience as my union membership did not save my job due to different unions wanting total control over the workforce but my union leadership refused and so we were unable to stay employed by that company as we all refused to be forced to join such unions, |
Not interested in the members interest.................89% voted for industrial action - what percentage voted for Brexit ?
now let's have some evidence of your libellous claim that Lynch is supported by the 'British Communist Party'
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why EU state owned companies should be running our railways, as thought best by the Tory Party
whereas that naughty Mr Lynch thinks it would be better if they were run by the UK .......... boo boo
"master knows best...baa baa" | | | |
| Another day another journalist owned by Mick Lynch on 14:38 - Jun 23 with 1048 views | Swansea_Blue |
| Another day another journalist owned by Mick Lynch on 13:09 - Jun 23 by meekreech |
At last someone else has been able to remember the dreadful state of the country when we were held to ransom by the unions being able to do whatever they wanted with the government of Wilson unable to respond, being afraid to lose their financial support.
Lynch and his union leadership group, I include all of the public sector unions in the group, are not actually acting in the best interests of their members , because the result of the unrest caused some workers to benefit but the vast majority were left behind to suffer the consequences of the greed of the few.
I speak from bitter experience as my union membership did not save my job due to different unions wanting total control over the workforce but my union leadership refused and so we were unable to stay employed by that company as we all refused to be forced to join such unions, |
Total different situation back then though with inflation-busting demands. Here we're talking about a likely well below inflation settlement, which shouldn't be unreasonable in anyone's' book. Plus unions are now much weaker as Cameron clipped their wings. |  |
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| Another day another journalist owned by Mick Lynch on 14:40 - Jun 23 with 1042 views | STYG |
| Another day another journalist owned by Mick Lynch on 14:32 - Jun 23 by HARRY10 |
Not interested in the members interest.................89% voted for industrial action - what percentage voted for Brexit ?
now let's have some evidence of your libellous claim that Lynch is supported by the 'British Communist Party'
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why EU state owned companies should be running our railways, as thought best by the Tory Party
whereas that naughty Mr Lynch thinks it would be better if they were run by the UK .......... boo boo
"master knows best...baa baa" |
Woah. That's a slam dunker.
I'd love to see people explain how 52% is the will of the people and must be gotten on with. Meanwhile 89% is not the will of the people.
Absolute muppets. | | | |
| Another day another journalist owned by Mick Lynch on 14:52 - Jun 23 with 1029 views | The_Flashing_Smile |
| Another day another journalist owned by Mick Lynch on 13:09 - Jun 23 by meekreech |
At last someone else has been able to remember the dreadful state of the country when we were held to ransom by the unions being able to do whatever they wanted with the government of Wilson unable to respond, being afraid to lose their financial support.
Lynch and his union leadership group, I include all of the public sector unions in the group, are not actually acting in the best interests of their members , because the result of the unrest caused some workers to benefit but the vast majority were left behind to suffer the consequences of the greed of the few.
I speak from bitter experience as my union membership did not save my job due to different unions wanting total control over the workforce but my union leadership refused and so we were unable to stay employed by that company as we all refused to be forced to join such unions, |
I'll say it again in case you missed my reply to bluebudgie;
You realise the people running the Labour Party aren't the same people who were doing so in the 70s? You must get confused when Ipswich run out and Paul Mariner, Mick Mills and Alan Brazil aren't there. |  |
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| Another day another journalist owned by Mick Lynch on 14:53 - Jun 23 with 1029 views | Swansea_Blue |
| Another day another journalist owned by Mick Lynch on 12:52 - Jun 23 by unbelievablue |
Kay Burley was the worst. Came across like a Fox news presenter. Not sure what she was expecting with that line of questioning. |
Piss poor wasn't she, and totally unable to reflect on how wrong it was going and change tack during the course of the 'interview'. She just wanted an easy headline with no interesting in finding out about the issue.
The state of much of journalism in this country these days is shocking. There are exceptions, but you need the longer format pieces for that and most mainstream journalism is aimed at people with short attention spans. And/or is screaming to be noticed with the most outrageous headline. | |
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| Another day another journalist owned by Mick Lynch on 14:55 - Jun 23 with 1026 views | meekreech |
| Another day another journalist owned by Mick Lynch on 13:37 - Jun 23 by jaykay |
i expect you are someone who benefits from some of these paid holidays, sick pay. not to be paid under a certain figure , not be unfairly dismissed , to be paid a overtime rate . paid maternity or paternity leave , anti -discrimination =race and disability etc . but what have the union ever done for worker |
See my earlier post where my union membership is explained. My support for unions was destroyed in the 70’s when unions united in forcing the company which employed me and 25 other people to either join their unions or be let go. Only 1 of the 26 union members did so and the rest of us were “ let go” as being surplus to requirements. During my time with the company I had served on the negotiating committee so felt rather let down by this treatment. The positions were filled within weeks by workers who were members of the appropriate unions.
We then spent a considerable period without employment mainly because we were not in the correct union.
After this experience I would not apply for or accept employment where union membership was a precondition.
I had no objection to being asked to work with union members but never wanted to be reliant upon their “goodwill “ | |
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| Another day another journalist owned by Mick Lynch on 14:58 - Jun 23 with 1016 views | ZXBlue |
| Another day another journalist owned by Mick Lynch on 14:55 - Jun 23 by meekreech |
See my earlier post where my union membership is explained. My support for unions was destroyed in the 70’s when unions united in forcing the company which employed me and 25 other people to either join their unions or be let go. Only 1 of the 26 union members did so and the rest of us were “ let go” as being surplus to requirements. During my time with the company I had served on the negotiating committee so felt rather let down by this treatment. The positions were filled within weeks by workers who were members of the appropriate unions.
We then spent a considerable period without employment mainly because we were not in the correct union.
After this experience I would not apply for or accept employment where union membership was a precondition.
I had no objection to being asked to work with union members but never wanted to be reliant upon their “goodwill “ |
None of this justifies your completely absurd and unfounded arguments ont he current issues.
Here is something doing the rounds. I take it with a pnch of salt until I have confirmation of facts (as we should all do with the employer / government's arguments). However, if it is even half way to being accurate, you really dont have an argument at all.
"Just take a minute to read the post below, from a Rail Worker, that gives a different perspective to the hyperbole being flung out by HMG's client journalists...
Three years ago we accepted a 0% pay rise, two years ago we accepted a 0% pay rise. But this year they came to us with a 0% pay rise plus over 2500 redundancies, changes to terms and conditions. An increase from 28 weeks of nights to 39 weeks of nights. An increase from 32 weekends worked to 39 weekends worked. Currently for a night shift we get time and a quarter, for a weekend turn we get time and a half. They wish to cut both of these to time and a tenth. So that’s a 15% pay cut on every night shift and a 40% pay cut on every weekend turn. But they want us to work more of them. This is their modernisation they talk about. Not technology, we embrace technology and have seen more and more of it in recent years. They also wish to fire and re-hire the operative grades and bring them back under a new job title but on £9000 a year less. They also want them to use their own vehicles to get to work sites, this when fuel is at its highest. They will also be pooled when currently they are part of the team. The press are painting this to be about pay above all else. It is not. But now we’ve said sod them we are going to demand better. I wish everyone could see past the government controlled media smear." | | | |
| Another day another journalist owned by Mick Lynch on 15:06 - Jun 23 with 998 views | Swansea_Blue |
Glassers, have you seen the follow up by the RMT? Top internetting (although I'm not sure if that's original from rmt or someone just photoshopping - pretty amusing whichever).
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| Another day another journalist owned by Mick Lynch on 15:49 - Jun 23 with 974 views | STYG |
| Another day another journalist owned by Mick Lynch on 15:06 - Jun 23 by Swansea_Blue |
Glassers, have you seen the follow up by the RMT? Top internetting (although I'm not sure if that's original from rmt or someone just photoshopping - pretty amusing whichever).
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That's superb, but a radiant and smiling Meghan Markle on her Wedding Day may have trumped that still. | | | |
| Another day another journalist owned by Mick Lynch on 15:53 - Jun 23 with 968 views | unbelievablue |
| Another day another journalist owned by Mick Lynch on 14:53 - Jun 23 by Swansea_Blue |
Piss poor wasn't she, and totally unable to reflect on how wrong it was going and change tack during the course of the 'interview'. She just wanted an easy headline with no interesting in finding out about the issue.
The state of much of journalism in this country these days is shocking. There are exceptions, but you need the longer format pieces for that and most mainstream journalism is aimed at people with short attention spans. And/or is screaming to be noticed with the most outrageous headline. |
The internet has killed it. Clicks for pay. | |
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| Another day another journalist owned by Mick Lynch on 17:49 - Jun 23 with 899 views | solomon |
| Another day another journalist owned by Mick Lynch on 13:09 - Jun 23 by meekreech |
At last someone else has been able to remember the dreadful state of the country when we were held to ransom by the unions being able to do whatever they wanted with the government of Wilson unable to respond, being afraid to lose their financial support.
Lynch and his union leadership group, I include all of the public sector unions in the group, are not actually acting in the best interests of their members , because the result of the unrest caused some workers to benefit but the vast majority were left behind to suffer the consequences of the greed of the few.
I speak from bitter experience as my union membership did not save my job due to different unions wanting total control over the workforce but my union leadership refused and so we were unable to stay employed by that company as we all refused to be forced to join such unions, |
A single swallow does not a summer make, two tits on the other hand… [Post edited 23 Jun 2022 17:53]
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| Another day another journalist owned by Mick Lynch on 17:57 - Jun 23 with 883 views | HARRY10 |
| Another day another journalist owned by Mick Lynch on 14:55 - Jun 23 by meekreech |
See my earlier post where my union membership is explained. My support for unions was destroyed in the 70’s when unions united in forcing the company which employed me and 25 other people to either join their unions or be let go. Only 1 of the 26 union members did so and the rest of us were “ let go” as being surplus to requirements. During my time with the company I had served on the negotiating committee so felt rather let down by this treatment. The positions were filled within weeks by workers who were members of the appropriate unions.
We then spent a considerable period without employment mainly because we were not in the correct union.
After this experience I would not apply for or accept employment where union membership was a precondition.
I had no objection to being asked to work with union members but never wanted to be reliant upon their “goodwill “ |
That is about as believable as that Tory MP in the Little Britain sketch where he is explaining his being caught cottaging
Now why not, instead, provide evidence for your libellous claim that "Lynch is supported by the 'British Communist Party"
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why EU state owned companies should be running our railways, as thought best by the Tory Party - odd position for you righties to be in, isn't it ?
EU state owned companies good
UK state owned companies bad
so much for Brexit eh, rightie boy | | | |
| Another day another journalist owned by Mick Lynch on 17:59 - Jun 23 with 878 views | solomon |
| Another day another journalist owned by Mick Lynch on 13:22 - Jun 23 by BLUEGOLD |
Please read about what unions do before posting your GB News, Daily Mail nonsense.
Why are you right wingers all so frickin stupid? |
They tend to be a sort of right wing identity kit, always there’s a list of things they also don’t believe in
BLM
LGBT+
Climate change
Sexual equality
Practically anything that’s addressed any inequalities in the last few years they despise and want to destroy and reverse ,ironically it’s they who are the dinosaurs. | | | |
| Another day another journalist owned by Mick Lynch on 18:04 - Jun 23 with 860 views | RKD |
He's on Question Time tonight for anybody looking forward to more Mick content. |  |
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| Another day another journalist owned by Mick Lynch on 18:09 - Jun 23 with 854 views | unbelievablue |
| Another day another journalist owned by Mick Lynch on 18:04 - Jun 23 by RKD |
He's on Question Time tonight for anybody looking forward to more Mick content. |
Will be interesting to see if he goes after Nick Thomas-Symonds (a not very lefty Labourite). | |
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| Another day another journalist owned by Mick Lynch on 18:20 - Jun 23 with 840 views | HARRY10 |
| Another day another journalist owned by Mick Lynch on 17:59 - Jun 23 by solomon |
They tend to be a sort of right wing identity kit, always there’s a list of things they also don’t believe in
BLM
LGBT+
Climate change
Sexual equality
Practically anything that’s addressed any inequalities in the last few years they despise and want to destroy and reverse ,ironically it’s they who are the dinosaurs. |
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The ironic thing is that had it not been for collective action, rightie boy would still be working 48 hours, or more, a week.
And Top coppers, surgeons, barristers, top civil servants etc all have a union that represents their interests - inly they don't refer to their union as a union, but they do the same job.
BA workers are now set to take industrial action, to which I expect rightie boy to be along
...................just as soon as his betters have daubed in the side of the barn wall what he has to bleat | | | |
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