| McKenna's win rate 14:16 - Jul 4 with 2047 views | STYG |
Knew it would be good but didn't realise he's second in the all time list, above Sir Alf and Burley.
Mick O'Brien in 1936-37 has a stupidly high win rate of 64.1%
Worth remembering we only lost 4 games under McKenna in 23! |  | | |  |
| McKenna's win rate on 14:33 - Jul 4 with 1950 views | OsborneOneNil |
Inc all those frustrating and avoidable draws. |  | | |
| McKenna's win rate on 14:33 - Jul 4 with 1947 views | Mediocre_Quick |
In half a season...
Give him a full season and see what happens |  | | |
| McKenna's win rate on 16:27 - Jul 4 with 1769 views | BonneNIL |
Yeah on the face of it, you are right. My main concern about McKenna is maybe he's too conservative to get enough points to get promoted and I haven't been amazed by the recruitment so far but as others point out if he did that over the season we would be up but my worry is we'll draw far too many games to be contenders. |  |
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| McKenna's win rate on 16:29 - Jul 4 with 1760 views | STYG |
| McKenna's win rate on 14:33 - Jul 4 by Mediocre_Quick |
In half a season...
Give him a full season and see what happens |
I don't think we will lose more than 10 matches next season and I think we will turn a lot of draws into wins.
I go into every season saying we will finish 5th or 8th and generally fear the worse. However, this time around I'm absolutely certain we will finish in the top three and think we will get at least 82 points, enough to go up most years, or finish 17th last season! | | | |
| McKenna's win rate on 16:38 - Jul 4 with 1730 views | Chrisd |
Let's also have a bit of perspective and remember we're playing in L1, not the EPL or even the Championship. There's no doubt it is a decent start under KM, but that's all it is we are still plying our trade in L1 for another season after finishing 13 points off 6th last season. | |
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| McKenna's win rate on 16:41 - Jul 4 with 1716 views | BiGDonnie |
Yet all those people in the other thread worried about the season. |  |
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| McKenna's win rate on 16:42 - Jul 4 with 1718 views | BlueBadger |
Yeah...but.....SMARMY. |  |
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| McKenna's win rate on 17:03 - Jul 4 with 1643 views | Garv |
He did have us ridiculously solid and we just controlled games.
We absolutely taught both Wigan and Plymouth footballing lessons, I remember thinking I couldn't believe Wigan were soon to win the League. They were basically kicking for touch for a lot of that game. |  |
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| McKenna's win rate on 17:07 - Jul 4 with 1621 views | FrimleyBlue |
Indeed. But we need to ensure we don't draw as many as we did across the season.
You can afford to lose 11 games as shown by Hull and still win the league... but you need to win a lot more than you draw. |  |
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| McKenna's win rate on 17:12 - Jul 4 with 1597 views | STYG |
| McKenna's win rate on 17:03 - Jul 4 by Garv |
He did have us ridiculously solid and we just controlled games.
We absolutely taught both Wigan and Plymouth footballing lessons, I remember thinking I couldn't believe Wigan were soon to win the League. They were basically kicking for touch for a lot of that game. |
This is where my confidence comes from.
If we'd have beaten Plymouth 3-0, Portsmouth 3-0 and Wigan 3-1 nobody would have batted an eyelid based on the performances. These were three teams that were top of the form table or thereabouts and they were chasing shadows, creating little and we never looked like conceding in the first two and Wigan I'll put down to the season being over at that stage.
We genuinely now look a class above most in the division, control games, create, don't concede. We just need that ruthless striker or two and we very much look like the Burley sides where you just knew we'd be right up there every year. | | | |
| McKenna's win rate on 17:33 - Jul 4 with 1521 views | Swansea_Blue |
Of course, and that's why last season was incredibly frustrating dealing with some fans who thought he wasn't showing immense promise. We didn't not challenge because of McK. It was the other chump what blew it. |  |
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| McKenna's win rate on 07:17 - Jul 5 with 1195 views | RIPbobby |
Not bad considering we were relatively toothless once kaydens pace was taken out of the team. |  | | |
| McKenna's win rate on 07:48 - Jul 5 with 1134 views | PrideOfTheEast |
| McKenna's win rate on 17:03 - Jul 4 by Garv |
He did have us ridiculously solid and we just controlled games.
We absolutely taught both Wigan and Plymouth footballing lessons, I remember thinking I couldn't believe Wigan were soon to win the League. They were basically kicking for touch for a lot of that game. |
Exactly. The difference being that Wigan had a striker bang in form and our defence wasn’t good that night when it mattered.
We’ll be fine. [Post edited 5 Jul 2022 7:49]
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| McKenna's win rate on 08:43 - Jul 5 with 1009 views | Vic |
| McKenna's win rate on 17:33 - Jul 4 by Swansea_Blue |
Of course, and that's why last season was incredibly frustrating dealing with some fans who thought he wasn't showing immense promise. We didn't not challenge because of McK. It was the other chump what blew it. |
I’m confident of a much better start and for a better showing this season.
However, fact remains that even after KM was appointed, and as well as he did, there were at least 6 teams did better than us (had a higher ppg value) in the 6 months he was here. I like him, I really do, but let’s keep our feet on the ground - we finished lower in the league and more points behind the PO’s than we were when he was appointed. |  |
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| McKenna's win rate on 08:52 - Jul 5 with 985 views | xrayspecs |
Small sample size and this League One. Not sure you can compare against managers whose record was at higher levels. | | | |
| McKenna's win rate on 09:10 - Jul 5 with 937 views | jaykay |
| McKenna's win rate on 16:27 - Jul 4 by BonneNIL |
Yeah on the face of it, you are right. My main concern about McKenna is maybe he's too conservative to get enough points to get promoted and I haven't been amazed by the recruitment so far but as others point out if he did that over the season we would be up but my worry is we'll draw far too many games to be contenders. |
i will pass on your list of concerns to him , when we next out together |  |
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| McKenna's win rate on 10:36 - Jul 5 with 795 views | itfcsuth |
| McKenna's win rate on 16:27 - Jul 4 by BonneNIL |
Yeah on the face of it, you are right. My main concern about McKenna is maybe he's too conservative to get enough points to get promoted and I haven't been amazed by the recruitment so far but as others point out if he did that over the season we would be up but my worry is we'll draw far too many games to be contenders. |
We acquired 40 points under McKenna in half a season, you do that over a full season you will finish on 80 and be right up towards the top end of the league.
Add in a full pre season and additions and departures he wants as he continues to build his squad, we really should be contenders. |  | | |
| McKenna's win rate on 10:39 - Jul 5 with 779 views | ElderGrizzly |
| McKenna's win rate on 14:33 - Jul 4 by OsborneOneNil |
Inc all those frustrating and avoidable draws. |
And that's the key for this season.
I think it was Sunderland in 20/21 who had so many draws and that was what screwed over their promotion hopes and lost Jack Ross his job.
This season those draws became wins and they ended up going up via the playoffs. |  | | |
| McKenna's win rate on 13:26 - Jul 5 with 662 views | Vaughan8 |
He only won 2 of his last 9.................. 
You can probably take a half a season with Lambert and he has decent win stats!
Gotta give it more time to really start putting that out. However, we definitely were playing better football under Mckenna. | | | |
| McKenna's win rate on 13:42 - Jul 5 with 633 views | Stu_Magoo |
| McKenna's win rate on 13:26 - Jul 5 by Vaughan8 |
He only won 2 of his last 9..................
You can probably take a half a season with Lambert and he has decent win stats!
Gotta give it more time to really start putting that out. However, we definitely were playing better football under Mckenna. |
Under McKenna, I was actually excited to go to football games again. The feeling of knowing we had a decent chance of winning or it at least being a decent game. That was completely gone by the end of Cook's reign. |  |
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| McKenna's win rate on 14:20 - Jul 5 with 574 views | STYG |
| McKenna's win rate on 13:26 - Jul 5 by Vaughan8 |
He only won 2 of his last 9..................
You can probably take a half a season with Lambert and he has decent win stats!
Gotta give it more time to really start putting that out. However, we definitely were playing better football under Mckenna. |
Context man. Context.
McKenna averaged nearly 2 points a game over half a season from taking over a team that was an absolute shambles. We'd just been humiliated at Barrow, put in one of the worst performances ever at Charlton and the guy comes in and makes us impossible to score against whilst playing like Barcelona. We were only an in-form striker away from an utterly laughable half a season.
Lambert had us top after 11 games but over half a season we'd dropped off massively and he'd had since October the previous season to get something going. Even in those 11 games we played well about 3 times. Tranmere and Shrewsbury at home were decent. A lot of other games you sensed teams were fearful of us. Once they realised we weren't all that we got outplayed regularly.
Cook was just a shambles.
McKenna's dodgy patch as such came when the season was largely gone and when, as Bonne said, he wanted to look at Jackson, Norwood and Piggott. After Cambridge it became very much about this coming season. So only 2-3 games of those 9 games were when we were going all out for the wins like we had in the previous 15 or so. | | | |
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