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Preston have banned a fan for life for being derogatory about the Royal Family 09:31 - Sep 14 with 4564 viewsSteve_M

Which is ridiculously over the top.

https://www.theguardian.com/football/2022/sep/13/preston-ban-football-fan-for-li

Preston also employ Ched Evans.

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Nah, it's not OTT.... on 12:38 - Sep 14 with 952 viewsbluelagos

Nah, it's not OTT.... on 12:36 - Sep 14 by jeera

Well I want your help with something later so I'm not going to argue with you.


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Nah, it's not OTT.... on 12:49 - Sep 14 with 923 viewsjeera

Nah, it's not OTT.... on 12:38 - Sep 14 by bluelagos

Out shortly so be quick and or out til early evening.


I've given this some thought and decided he needs to Tweet an apology to the club for including them in his stupidity/misguided attempts at humour.

Hopefully that would suffice.

Along with another Tweet calling them hypocrites for employing Evans, just to test the water.

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Preston have banned a fan for life for being derogatory about the Royal Family on 21:13 - Sep 14 with 854 viewsCrawfordsboot

I’ll try a different take on this.
A retailer (e.g. a baker) can not refuse to serve someone (e.g. a gay couple) just because they disapprove of their lifestyle or beliefs. This has been tested in law. A football club is a business. It is not a private members club so how can it refuse entry on the grounds of someone’s expressed thoughts or beliefs, however naff they might be. This is a slippery slope.
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Preston have banned a fan for life for being derogatory about the Royal Family on 00:02 - Sep 15 with 801 viewsmonytowbray

If someone makes a remark about the Royals and Nazi salutes I assume context is reference to the fact some Royals were supportive and pally with the Nazi Party pre WWII, as well as there being photos of Royals doing a SH.

In that regard, I’d say claiming this is hate speech would potentially be a bit disingenuous. Tasteless and poorly timed, yes. But this whole Disney fairytale act needs to get in the bin too. These criticisms have existed for decades and were ignored, it was always gonna be a divisive time, but so much history has been buried for Rule Britannia propaganda nationalist BS.

Lifetime ban seems harsh in that regard too.
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Preston have banned a fan for life for being derogatory about the Royal Family on 00:05 - Sep 15 with 785 viewsRyorry

Preston have banned a fan for life for being derogatory about the Royal Family on 21:13 - Sep 14 by Crawfordsboot

I’ll try a different take on this.
A retailer (e.g. a baker) can not refuse to serve someone (e.g. a gay couple) just because they disapprove of their lifestyle or beliefs. This has been tested in law. A football club is a business. It is not a private members club so how can it refuse entry on the grounds of someone’s expressed thoughts or beliefs, however naff they might be. This is a slippery slope.


A retailer does *not* have to do business with anyone who goes into their premises shouting hate speech, which is a criminal offence, and which on the face of it (as reported in the thread) is what those tweets were. Any business also has the right to refuse to deal with customers who are abusive.

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Nah, it's not OTT.... on 02:49 - Sep 15 with 759 viewsKropotkin123

Nah, it's not OTT.... on 10:09 - Sep 14 by leitrimblue

What if you dress up as a nazi for a laugh?


Maybe ask someone with experience, like Prince Harry?

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Preston have banned a fan for life for being derogatory about the Royal Family on 03:40 - Sep 15 with 741 viewsSE1blue

If social media took one ounce of responsibility for posts like the ones he made and introduced stricter regulations we would see less of this. PNE have ended up having to ‘police’ it.

Should clubs have detailed regulations on what action they will take if supporters incite hatred etc inside and/or outside the ground regardless of place (geographical or online)? I don’t know and perhaps they already exist. But I think there needs to be some kind of policy that supporters are aware of so that even the lowest intelligences know how their behaviour could impact their attendance at matches.

Personally don’t think the club will miss him based on how he has acted in this scenario but they should give him the chance to change his ways and do better. Lifetime is too much. I bet they say the same about one of their employees if asked about previous behaviour.

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Nah, it's not OTT.... on 08:55 - Sep 15 with 671 viewsitfcjoe

Nah, it's not OTT.... on 12:49 - Sep 14 by jeera

I've given this some thought and decided he needs to Tweet an apology to the club for including them in his stupidity/misguided attempts at humour.

Hopefully that would suffice.

Along with another Tweet calling them hypocrites for employing Evans, just to test the water.


Preston signed Evans 2 years after he had been acquitted

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Preston have banned a fan for life for being derogatory about the Royal Family on 09:07 - Sep 15 with 657 viewstivo

Preston have banned a fan for life for being derogatory about the Royal Family on 09:38 - Sep 14 by leitrimblue

They employ Ched Evans


He was found not guilty right?
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Preston have banned a fan for life for being derogatory about the Royal Family on 09:10 - Sep 15 with 657 viewsblueasfook

I think the key thing is that he tagged the club in his Twitter posts - thus damaging the club's image. If he had kept the club out of it, then I doubt they'd have any recourse to ban him.

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Preston have banned a fan for life for being derogatory about the Royal Family on 09:13 - Sep 15 with 642 viewssolemio

Preston have banned a fan for life for being derogatory about the Royal Family on 10:07 - Sep 14 by leitrimblue

To be honest that 'it's what she would have wanted' line is very addictive. Once you've used it a couple of times it's very hard to stop.


A couple of hundred times and it tends towards extreme boredom.
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Preston have banned a fan for life for being derogatory about the Royal Family on 09:39 - Sep 15 with 621 viewsCrawfordsboot

Preston have banned a fan for life for being derogatory about the Royal Family on 00:05 - Sep 15 by Ryorry

A retailer does *not* have to do business with anyone who goes into their premises shouting hate speech, which is a criminal offence, and which on the face of it (as reported in the thread) is what those tweets were. Any business also has the right to refuse to deal with customers who are abusive.


That might rule out about 50% or more of football supporters, perhaps significantly more for some teams :)
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Preston have banned a fan for life for being derogatory about the Royal Family on 09:48 - Sep 15 with 612 viewsPinewoodblue

Why do people assume the post was a joke. There is no evidence that this was the case.

The ban is appropriate but expect it to be reduced in length once the misguided individual offers a suitable apology and promises to behave in future.

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Preston have banned a fan for life for being derogatory about the Royal Family on 09:58 - Sep 15 with 590 viewsRyorry

Preston have banned a fan for life for being derogatory about the Royal Family on 09:39 - Sep 15 by Crawfordsboot

That might rule out about 50% or more of football supporters, perhaps significantly more for some teams :)


That's just a silly comparison. I've certainly never heard any supporters calling for the deaths of an entire real family anyway, even at the worst refs or cheaty players.

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Preston have banned a fan for life for being derogatory about the Royal Family on 10:03 - Sep 15 with 579 viewsleitrimblue

Preston have banned a fan for life for being derogatory about the Royal Family on 09:07 - Sep 15 by tivo

He was found not guilty right?


You know the banned supporter as also not been found guilty of any crime? The club just doesn't wish to be associated with someone who holds his views. They are however quite happy to be associated with Ched Evans...
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