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Truss refusing to sign off on campaign to get people to save energy 08:22 - Oct 7 with 3128 viewsSteve_M

I expected her to be sh1t, but not this sh1t:



Incredible idiocy.

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I agree.... on 10:20 - Oct 7 with 1255 viewsWeWereZombies

I agree.... on 10:10 - Oct 7 by Steve_M

it's still the right thing to do. Reducing demand also massively reduces the enormous cost of the cap this Winter.

Agree on the smart metres, the visualisation helps guide usage.


But do you have to walk the hard yards to get to the smart metres ?

The visualisation can have its downsides, I stayed at an old girlfriends a couple of months ago and as well as being put in the spare room I was also castigated when she noticed that the electricity consumption had gone up by £0.04 because I forgot to switch off the extractor fan in the shower.

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Truss refusing to sign off on campaign to get people to save energy on 10:22 - Oct 7 with 1253 viewshomer_123

Truss refusing to sign off on campaign to get people to save energy on 10:13 - Oct 7 by Guthrum

I don't quite see how one can be "ideologically opposed" to good advice, either.


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Truss refusing to sign off on campaign to get people to save energy on 10:24 - Oct 7 with 1246 viewsGuthrum

Truss refusing to sign off on campaign to get people to save energy on 08:51 - Oct 7 by BloomBlue

To be honest do adults in this country need that advice, surely people have enough commonsense to understand how to reduce energy especially with global warming/climate change and cost of living crisis?

But hey a nanny state is a nanny state I guess


Ah, the nanny state, which provides pensions for the elderly, free care for the sick, police forces to protect our property, a military to guard against invasion and other such terrible, molly-coddling things.

Set against which, a bit of useful advice is hardly a big deal.

Good Lord! Whatever is it?
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I agree.... on 10:37 - Oct 7 with 1223 viewsGogs

I agree.... on 10:00 - Oct 7 by Bloots

....but you watch what will happen if they do.

It's the cycle that we are in unfortunately.

Everyone should have a smart meter installed.

I got mine down to a usage of 35w the other morning, I think the only thing using electricity was the meter itself.

I was delighted, so delighted that I celebrated by boiling a massive kettle and leaving the iron on.


I wouldn't be so hasty to sing the praises of Smart Meters myself. If it works for you, that's good but it's still technology beset by flaws. I work in the electricity industry and pretty much everyone colleague of mine I've spoken to about them - some of whom work in smart metering department - does not bother with one, . Probably says something. Article here outlines the main issues: https://www.theecoexperts.co.uk/energy-switching/top-problems-with-smart-meters
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Truss refusing to sign off on campaign to get people to save energy on 11:32 - Oct 7 with 1183 viewsArnoldMoorhen

Truss refusing to sign off on campaign to get people to save energy on 09:48 - Oct 7 by BlueBadger

Cameron was fooking awful. A smiling sociopath who pushed through massive, ideologically driven austerity, privatisation, benefit cuts, tax breaks for the top set and culture wars.

He just looks 'good' compared to what followed and was just about clever enough to either use Lib Dems as human shields or do a 'compassionate' looking interview every so often.

In reality, he was Paul Hurst - corner cutting at every opportunity and trashing the country though his own hubris.
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Yes, this "Cameron was alright" bollix has to stop.

He empowered Gove, who systematically destroyed local education authorities out of ideological vengeance, in the process destroying the Special Educational Needs services and referrals process.

12 years on and some children have gone through the whole of Primary and Secondary without the support that would have been given to them had they been born 10 years earlier.

Just one example.

See also an horrendous reshaping of benefits for those with disabilities or life-limiting illnesses, with private companies being given bonuses for finding reasons to disqualify people.

Two examples of how the most vulnerable in society were made to bear the brunt of Austerity cuts.

Austerity was a choice. The USA took the opposite course, and recovered much quicker from the 2008 Global Financial Crash.

Cameron choice.

A choice which made those with disabilities suffer.

David Cameron had a disabled daughter with a life-limiting illness. The cognitive dissonance and emotional short-circuiting required to follow these policies and not have any empathy for other families of lesser means in a similar position can only be described as sociopathic.

I'm not a fan.
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Truss refusing to sign off on campaign to get people to save energy on 12:10 - Oct 7 with 1146 viewseireblue

Truss refusing to sign off on campaign to get people to save energy on 10:24 - Oct 7 by Guthrum

Ah, the nanny state, which provides pensions for the elderly, free care for the sick, police forces to protect our property, a military to guard against invasion and other such terrible, molly-coddling things.

Set against which, a bit of useful advice is hardly a big deal.


Tsk, apparently they are thinking of providing free education for other peoples children as well, will it never end.
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I agree.... on 12:49 - Oct 7 with 1122 viewsRyorry

I agree.... on 10:37 - Oct 7 by Gogs

I wouldn't be so hasty to sing the praises of Smart Meters myself. If it works for you, that's good but it's still technology beset by flaws. I work in the electricity industry and pretty much everyone colleague of mine I've spoken to about them - some of whom work in smart metering department - does not bother with one, . Probably says something. Article here outlines the main issues: https://www.theecoexperts.co.uk/energy-switching/top-problems-with-smart-meters


Exactly, thank you.

For others not already aware, you can also buy a home energy monitoring system (I have a fairly cheap one that cost about £30) which people can attach to their incoming main cable. A counterpart viewing unit is then placed in a convenient room to see the consumption going on in real time. By switching individual things on/off you can see exactly what's using what. More expensive ones allow you to link them to your mobiles.

There are also the good old fashioned Economy7 & Economy10 tariffs to consider, something the govt. seems to have forgotten about. Given that cheap rate costs (with Shell on an E7 tariff, but in practice my meter is an E10 one which registers cheap rate from 01.00-06.00; 14.00-17.00 and 21.00-23.00 BST) are less than half of normal rate, this is a huge saving esp for retirees or those WFH. I've got usage down to more than 50% cheap rate, Current rates are 38.803p per kWh day rate; 16.944p per kWh cheap rate.

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Truss refusing to sign off on campaign to get people to save energy on 13:51 - Oct 7 with 1078 viewsbungaytractor

Ive got electric fan heater was 30 quid from argos and is great just put on a jumper ect before turning it on
Lots of people forget little things to save on gas electric
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Truss refusing to sign off on campaign to get people to save energy on 14:26 - Oct 7 with 1055 viewsWeWereZombies

Truss refusing to sign off on campaign to get people to save energy on 13:51 - Oct 7 by bungaytractor

Ive got electric fan heater was 30 quid from argos and is great just put on a jumper ect before turning it on
Lots of people forget little things to save on gas electric


If you have a Smart Meter, have you tried running the fan heater for an hour and noting down the energy consumption. Then put your jumper on and run the heater for another hour. Be sure to let us know what the readings are.

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Truss refusing to sign off on campaign to get people to save energy on 14:37 - Oct 7 with 1039 viewsbungaytractor

Truss refusing to sign off on campaign to get people to save energy on 14:26 - Oct 7 by WeWereZombies

If you have a Smart Meter, have you tried running the fan heater for an hour and noting down the energy consumption. Then put your jumper on and run the heater for another hour. Be sure to let us know what the readings are.


Ok i will try and let you know......
But i put my jumper on before using heater as saves on the boiler running
Was saying to the misses we should share a shower or bath aswell but shes not having it 😂
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Truss refusing to sign off on campaign to get people to save energy on 15:04 - Oct 7 with 1022 viewsPlums

Truss refusing to sign off on campaign to get people to save energy on 14:37 - Oct 7 by bungaytractor

Ok i will try and let you know......
But i put my jumper on before using heater as saves on the boiler running
Was saying to the misses we should share a shower or bath aswell but shes not having it 😂


I've got one of those jumper operated boilers. They're brilliant.
Worcester Argyle. I wouldn't be without it.

It's 106 miles to Portman Road, we've got a full tank of gas, half a round of Port Salut, it's dark... and we're wearing blue tinted sunglasses.
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Truss refusing to sign off on campaign to get people to save energy on 15:10 - Oct 7 with 1016 viewsHARRY10

One of the noted by Mass Observation during the war, was how people welcomed advice given, through posters - mostly as a slogan.

Many had expressed feelings of being lost, powerlessness and being on their own. The thought was they were making sacrifices whilst others were not

It was that feeling of reassurance that helped. The 'blitz spirit' was not a myth, more a feeling of a shared cause. Much as communal singing at church, and now various clapping, silences etc at football matches.

All that is needed is for Truss to say

' there are likely to be times of excess demand as there are every winter - however we may see reduced supply. You can help by reducing ............etc

Be wise .........energy wise

Yes it will come across as corny to many, and upset some righties who will be shrieking about more wokism - - but it will work

the old propaganda tool of 'acknowledge, solution and reassurance ' comes into play.

I doubt many in authority believe in the god nonsense, but they are aware of what inage to show in that regard. Truss, and others are t0o far up their own backsides to do anything that is not pandering to the idiocies of their far right followers.
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Truss refusing to sign off on campaign to get people to save energy on 15:21 - Oct 7 with 1003 viewsbungaytractor

Truss refusing to sign off on campaign to get people to save energy on 15:04 - Oct 7 by Plums

I've got one of those jumper operated boilers. They're brilliant.
Worcester Argyle. I wouldn't be without it.


Not saying that at all......
I put jumper on so i dont turn on boiler but if it gets to cold turn on heater in the living room or bedroom simple
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Truss refusing to sign off on campaign to get people to save energy on 16:27 - Oct 7 with 980 viewsWeWereZombies

Truss refusing to sign off on campaign to get people to save energy on 15:21 - Oct 7 by bungaytractor

Not saying that at all......
I put jumper on so i dont turn on boiler but if it gets to cold turn on heater in the living room or bedroom simple


doesnt sound like your jumper works well thort about getting a thicker one

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Truss refusing to sign off on campaign to get people to save energy on 16:33 - Oct 7 with 975 viewsHARRY10

Truss refusing to sign off on campaign to get people to save energy on 15:21 - Oct 7 by bungaytractor

Not saying that at all......
I put jumper on so i dont turn on boiler but if it gets to cold turn on heater in the living room or bedroom simple


Candles are a good source of heat - especially when lit
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Truss refusing to sign off on campaign to get people to save energy on 17:56 - Oct 7 with 956 viewsfactual_blue

Truss refusing to sign off on campaign to get people to save energy on 13:51 - Oct 7 by bungaytractor

Ive got electric fan heater was 30 quid from argos and is great just put on a jumper ect before turning it on
Lots of people forget little things to save on gas electric


Don't go to the big town of Lowestoft. It's not too far from you, but they'll steal the jumper off your back.

And eat it.

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Truss refusing to sign off on campaign to get people to save energy on 18:03 - Oct 7 with 940 viewsfactual_blue

Truss refusing to sign off on campaign to get people to save energy on 14:26 - Oct 7 by WeWereZombies

If you have a Smart Meter, have you tried running the fan heater for an hour and noting down the energy consumption. Then put your jumper on and run the heater for another hour. Be sure to let us know what the readings are.


I'm reeling from the news that there appears to be electricity in Bungay.

It's like Halesworth, but from the 1880s, rather than the 1920s.

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Truss refusing to sign off on campaign to get people to save energy on 18:06 - Oct 7 with 935 viewsRyorry

Truss refusing to sign off on campaign to get people to save energy on 16:33 - Oct 7 by HARRY10

Candles are a good source of heat - especially when lit


... and not protected from being knocked over etc.

Tho that might of course knock on the head any worries over rising mortgage repayments ...

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Truss refusing to sign off on campaign to get people to save energy on 18:26 - Oct 7 with 924 viewsHARRY10

Truss refusing to sign off on campaign to get people to save energy on 18:06 - Oct 7 by Ryorry

... and not protected from being knocked over etc.

Tho that might of course knock on the head any worries over rising mortgage repayments ...


Your house is not equipped with an ample supply of candelabras ?

You'll be telling us next that the paraffin man no longer calls

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Truss refusing to sign off on campaign to get people to save energy on 19:21 - Oct 7 with 908 viewsNthQldITFC

Truss refusing to sign off on campaign to get people to save energy on 14:37 - Oct 7 by bungaytractor

Ok i will try and let you know......
But i put my jumper on before using heater as saves on the boiler running
Was saying to the misses we should share a shower or bath aswell but shes not having it 😂


Well tell her she bloody well should be having it; it'll keep her warm. It did last night.

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