| Why is there a lack of Town supporters in Suffolk (particularly around Sudbury)? 20:05 - Oct 23 with 4284 views | Orangeboi373 |
Before I start, I do want to make it clear that you can support whoever you like, whether prem or non-league, this post is more about curiosity then a rant.
Why are there so many big 6 supports rather than town supporters in Suffolk, especially around the Sudbury area? In primary, I was 1 of 2 Ipswich supporters in my class. Everyone else was a Man Utd, Chelsea, Arsenal or Liverpool fan, there even was a barca fan. I know in 50s many towns like Sudbury experienced massive growth in population, especially Londoners.
I can understand why there are West Ham or Spurs fans, but not Man City. Why support a team that you probably only see once in a lifetime rather than a team who you can see quite often for less.
I mean, we are a big club, we won a fair few trophies, have a proud history and a large fanbase in Ipswich itself, but not Sudbury.
Maybe because I was in primary, kids like to grab onto big teams because they want success.
Again not a rant, but something that has always boggled my mind. [Post edited 23 Oct 2022 20:06]
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| Why is there a lack of Town supporters in Suffolk (particularly around Sudbury)? on 20:09 - Oct 23 with 3247 views | bazza |
Sudbury has a football team you glory hunter.. supporting Ipswich just because we won a fair few trophies !! |  | | |
| Why is there a lack of Town supporters in Suffolk (particularly around Sudbury)? on 20:14 - Oct 23 with 3210 views | Orangeboi373 |
| Why is there a lack of Town supporters in Suffolk (particularly around Sudbury)? on 20:09 - Oct 23 by bazza |
Sudbury has a football team you glory hunter.. supporting Ipswich just because we won a fair few trophies !! |
A bit bizzare claim since I've been supporting the club since 2010, the start of the evans era with Keane in charge. Also helps that my family have always supported town (before the day cup and uefa cup) and I'm from Ipswich, moved to Sudbury in 2007 with my family. I also support AFC Sudbury.
I apologise if it was a sarcastic comment | |
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| Why is there a lack of Town supporters in Suffolk (particularly around Sudbury)? on 20:17 - Oct 23 with 3191 views | bazza |
| Why is there a lack of Town supporters in Suffolk (particularly around Sudbury)? on 20:14 - Oct 23 by Orangeboi373 |
A bit bizzare claim since I've been supporting the club since 2010, the start of the evans era with Keane in charge. Also helps that my family have always supported town (before the day cup and uefa cup) and I'm from Ipswich, moved to Sudbury in 2007 with my family. I also support AFC Sudbury.
I apologise if it was a sarcastic comment |
Apology accepted.. | | | |
| Why is there a lack of Town supporters in Suffolk (particularly around Sudbury)? on 20:39 - Oct 23 with 3112 views | superblue70 |
I'm a season ticket holder from sudbury area, 4 season ticket holders in front of me all from sudbury, think most towns in suffolk are very mixed in terms of who people support, will always get more than your fair share of glory hunters much easier to support the big boys. |  | | |
| Why is there a lack of Town supporters in Suffolk (particularly around Sudbury)? on 20:48 - Oct 23 with 3035 views | gtsb1966 |
| Why is there a lack of Town supporters in Suffolk (particularly around Sudbury)? on 20:14 - Oct 23 by Orangeboi373 |
A bit bizzare claim since I've been supporting the club since 2010, the start of the evans era with Keane in charge. Also helps that my family have always supported town (before the day cup and uefa cup) and I'm from Ipswich, moved to Sudbury in 2007 with my family. I also support AFC Sudbury.
I apologise if it was a sarcastic comment |
There are plenty of Town fans in Sudbury. |  | | |
| Why is there a lack of Town supporters in Suffolk (particularly around Sudbury)? on 20:50 - Oct 23 with 3012 views | Coastalblue |
| Why is there a lack of Town supporters in Suffolk (particularly around Sudbury)? on 20:39 - Oct 23 by superblue70 |
I'm a season ticket holder from sudbury area, 4 season ticket holders in front of me all from sudbury, think most towns in suffolk are very mixed in terms of who people support, will always get more than your fair share of glory hunters much easier to support the big boys. |
I'm not sure glory hunters is really fair. I would guess most kids pick their football team at what? 5 or 6 assuming there's no parental pressure? Some maybe a little older.
Football is everywhere now, top players are massive stars, rightly or wrongly and most youngsters are going to have favourite players, most likely international players who they will see on the TV every week, who their mates will be talking about and wanting to emulate in the playground. I think it's fairly natural with the way the game has gone that young kids are going to pick teams and players they are familiar with, probably see on TV every week.
I'm not sure even as a 7 or 8 year old you're going to weigh up whether or not you could go see these teams in the flesh, your only option is most likely to watch football on TV, so why would you pick a side who have no well known players and might be shown once or twice a season, unless of course you are being taken to games.
If Town had been a Prem club for the last 10-15 years then I suspect there would ne a lot more youngsters supporting the club, but unless somebody takes them to games they are never going to see ITFC play, they can probably watch Man City on the box every week. |  |
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| Why is there a lack of Town supporters in Suffolk (particularly around Sudbury)? on 21:00 - Oct 23 with 2975 views | Melford |
I think it depends on your age, I'm in my 40s and most people my age and older in Melford are Ipswich, probably because we were watching top-flight football or in the play-offs every year challenging for it.
We have 16-18 year old lads at the weekends at work washing up and it's been only been a couple of Town fans in 20 odd we've had in the last couple of years, it's mostly Spurs, Arsenal and West Ham. |  |
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| Why is there a lack of Town supporters in Suffolk (particularly around Sudbury)? on 21:46 - Oct 23 with 2832 views | superblue70 |
| Why is there a lack of Town supporters in Suffolk (particularly around Sudbury)? on 20:50 - Oct 23 by Coastalblue |
I'm not sure glory hunters is really fair. I would guess most kids pick their football team at what? 5 or 6 assuming there's no parental pressure? Some maybe a little older.
Football is everywhere now, top players are massive stars, rightly or wrongly and most youngsters are going to have favourite players, most likely international players who they will see on the TV every week, who their mates will be talking about and wanting to emulate in the playground. I think it's fairly natural with the way the game has gone that young kids are going to pick teams and players they are familiar with, probably see on TV every week.
I'm not sure even as a 7 or 8 year old you're going to weigh up whether or not you could go see these teams in the flesh, your only option is most likely to watch football on TV, so why would you pick a side who have no well known players and might be shown once or twice a season, unless of course you are being taken to games.
If Town had been a Prem club for the last 10-15 years then I suspect there would ne a lot more youngsters supporting the club, but unless somebody takes them to games they are never going to see ITFC play, they can probably watch Man City on the box every week. |
You may be correct but I've always supported town even though my dad was norwich through and through, both my brothers are scummers as well, and I grew up pretending I was ossie Ardiles after the 78 world Cup, but never liked spurs, maybe I'm the exception to the rule | | | |
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| Why is there a lack of Town supporters in Suffolk (particularly around Sudbury)? on 21:57 - Oct 23 with 2808 views | Nthsuffolkblue |
I would say the lack of prominence of Town fans on the north Suffolk border over the past 5-10 years is no surprise as there has been very little to cheer. However, in the past year I have seen more Town support on show than I have nodge. That is a move in the right direction. You still see the odd Barcelona, Man City and Liverpool ones but there are at least as many Town as them. When I wear Town gear plenty of others who have not got Town gear on show speak as fellow fans too. |  |
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| Why is there a lack of Town supporters in Suffolk (particularly around Sudbury)? on 22:29 - Oct 23 with 2725 views | BLUEBEAT |
| Why is there a lack of Town supporters in Suffolk (particularly around Sudbury)? on 20:48 - Oct 23 by gtsb1966 |
There are plenty of Town fans in Sudbury. |
Plenty of Col U fans too, what with it being nearer. |  |
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| Why is there a lack of Town supporters in Suffolk (particularly around Sudbury)? on 22:54 - Oct 23 with 2648 views | ArnieM |
Sudbury is full of London overspill- so not surprised there’s a few London based club supported there. |  |
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| Why is there a lack of Town supporters in Suffolk (particularly around Sudbury)? on 23:05 - Oct 23 with 2617 views | bournemouthblue |
East to West, Suffolk is joined up particularly badly
It probably takes longer to get from Sudbury to Ipswich than it does to the likes of Colchester, Cambridge, Bury and Braintree etc?
That might be the one reason, the other is that stereotypically, there's a lot of Londoners in that half of Suffolk
Does the London influence have an effect, is it more attractive to support London clubs as an example? |  |
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| Why is there a lack of Town supporters in Suffolk (particularly around Sudbury)? on 23:26 - Oct 23 with 2559 views | gainsboroughblue |
| Why is there a lack of Town supporters in Suffolk (particularly around Sudbury)? on 23:05 - Oct 23 by bournemouthblue |
East to West, Suffolk is joined up particularly badly
It probably takes longer to get from Sudbury to Ipswich than it does to the likes of Colchester, Cambridge, Bury and Braintree etc?
That might be the one reason, the other is that stereotypically, there's a lot of Londoners in that half of Suffolk
Does the London influence have an effect, is it more attractive to support London clubs as an example? |
Sudbury is a bit cut off really. It's in that kind of Colchester, Bury, Ipswich triangle and not particularly well connected to any of them.
I think you'd have to get to Marks Tey on the train before you even start to head towards Ipswich. |  |
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| Why is there a lack of Town supporters in Suffolk (particularly around Sudbury)? on 23:44 - Oct 23 with 2528 views | bournemouthblue |
| Why is there a lack of Town supporters in Suffolk (particularly around Sudbury)? on 23:26 - Oct 23 by gainsboroughblue |
Sudbury is a bit cut off really. It's in that kind of Colchester, Bury, Ipswich triangle and not particularly well connected to any of them.
I think you'd have to get to Marks Tey on the train before you even start to head towards Ipswich. |
I believe there was once a line that went to Ipswich, presumably cut in Doctor Breeching's cuts?
There's definitely an abandoned railway line you can walk along, no idea where it actually went though?
A train to Cambridge via Sudbury & Haverhill from Ipswich would make sense
An actual main road, East to West for South Suffolk too would be nice
I suspect it's asking too much, given the A12 to Lowestoft isn't even dual carriageway for most of the way, which I find staggering given it's Suffolk's second biggest Town | |
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| Why is there a lack of Town supporters in Suffolk (particularly around Sudbury)? on 23:58 - Oct 23 with 2504 views | backinbeige |
Born in July 1985 and growing up in Essex, I was nine years old when Ipswich lost 9-0.
To this day I remain staggered at how many kids in the playground revealed themselves as Man Utd fans on Monday morning. [Post edited 24 Oct 2022 0:39]
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| Why is there a lack of Town supporters in Suffolk (particularly around Sudbury)? on 00:04 - Oct 24 with 2499 views | gainsboroughblue |
| Why is there a lack of Town supporters in Suffolk (particularly around Sudbury)? on 23:44 - Oct 23 by bournemouthblue |
I believe there was once a line that went to Ipswich, presumably cut in Doctor Breeching's cuts?
There's definitely an abandoned railway line you can walk along, no idea where it actually went though?
A train to Cambridge via Sudbury & Haverhill from Ipswich would make sense
An actual main road, East to West for South Suffolk too would be nice
I suspect it's asking too much, given the A12 to Lowestoft isn't even dual carriageway for most of the way, which I find staggering given it's Suffolk's second biggest Town |
I don't ever remember a line from Sudbury to Ipswich to be honest. I know the current line from Marks Tey to Sudbury used to extend further to Cambridge or just before it. | |
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| Why is there a lack of Town supporters in Suffolk (particularly around Sudbury)? on 01:12 - Oct 24 with 2444 views | bournemouthblue |
| Why is there a lack of Town supporters in Suffolk (particularly around Sudbury)? on 00:04 - Oct 24 by gainsboroughblue |
I don't ever remember a line from Sudbury to Ipswich to be honest. I know the current line from Marks Tey to Sudbury used to extend further to Cambridge or just before it. |
Perhaps it is that one then, it is crazy this is not line going to Hadleigh, Sudbury, Haverhill, then Cambridge, it's a fairly straight line and would be used pretty regularly I imagine
The roads East to West are rubbish too but that's not unique to that part of Suffolk
Lowestoft is totally isolated too
I appreciate Suffolk is full of nimbys but it's probably true as well that National Government hasn't ever bothered to pump much into our infrastructure sadly | |
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| Why is there a lack of Town supporters in Suffolk (particularly around Sudbury)? on 01:15 - Oct 24 with 2441 views | Bluearmy71 |
| Why is there a lack of Town supporters in Suffolk (particularly around Sudbury)? on 23:05 - Oct 23 by bournemouthblue |
East to West, Suffolk is joined up particularly badly
It probably takes longer to get from Sudbury to Ipswich than it does to the likes of Colchester, Cambridge, Bury and Braintree etc?
That might be the one reason, the other is that stereotypically, there's a lot of Londoners in that half of Suffolk
Does the London influence have an effect, is it more attractive to support London clubs as an example? |
Sudbury is around the 23 mile mark from Ipswich, normal day driving 35-45 mins, match day (dependant on what time you leave) 45 mins to 1hr+, if no fecker is around then 30 mins lol, Colchester is around 20 miles and take 30 to 40 mins.
Bury St Edmunds is around 12 miles from Sudbury and takes roughly 20 to 25 mins, Braintree roughly 25 miles and takes roughly 30 mins.
Cambridge is a different kettle of fish distance wise, its a long old road and will take 50 to 1hr+
These are just rough figures and estimated at keeping to speed limits (excluding Sudbury to Ipswich with no fecker around) please check a route planner if you wish to be precise, I could not be arsed to do so.
I think Melford has hit it on the head with regard to ITFC supporters from the Sudbury area, it is very much generational, Man Utd, Liverpool etc etc were the exception rather than the rule, 99% of us were not London spillover, we were bumpkins born and bread and supported Ipswich before we learned to pee.....almost!!
Raised in the Sir Bobby era :) |  | | |
| Why is there a lack of Town supporters in Suffolk (particularly around Sudbury)? on 02:04 - Oct 24 with 2416 views | Miaow |
| Why is there a lack of Town supporters in Suffolk (particularly around Sudbury)? on 00:04 - Oct 24 by gainsboroughblue |
I don't ever remember a line from Sudbury to Ipswich to be honest. I know the current line from Marks Tey to Sudbury used to extend further to Cambridge or just before it. |
The line used to continue from Sudbury up to Melford and on to Bury, I believe. Also, it split west towards Cambridge, following a line just north of the Essex border, going through Clare towards Haverhill. There was also the line which split at Chappel/Wakes Colne and went through Halstead and the Hedinghams up to Haverhill. From Haverhill, I know that it went through Bartlow on the Cambs/Essex border because they (the Victorians) destroyed one or two of the ancient Roman-era tumuli (burial mounds) there when they built the line. I think there was also a line from Saffron Walden which joined around Bartlow.
In the north of Essex there was also Braintree to Bishops Stortford via Dunmow, a line to Thaxted (I think), a small line to Brightlingsea, a line from Kelvedon to Tollesbury via Tiptree, and also the Witham-to-Maldon branch line.
The rail map around this part of the country, and the rest of it, used to look a lot more dense. |  |
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| Why is there a lack of Town supporters in Suffolk (particularly around Sudbury)? on 02:11 - Oct 24 with 2406 views | bournemouthblue |
| Why is there a lack of Town supporters in Suffolk (particularly around Sudbury)? on 02:04 - Oct 24 by Miaow |
The line used to continue from Sudbury up to Melford and on to Bury, I believe. Also, it split west towards Cambridge, following a line just north of the Essex border, going through Clare towards Haverhill. There was also the line which split at Chappel/Wakes Colne and went through Halstead and the Hedinghams up to Haverhill. From Haverhill, I know that it went through Bartlow on the Cambs/Essex border because they (the Victorians) destroyed one or two of the ancient Roman-era tumuli (burial mounds) there when they built the line. I think there was also a line from Saffron Walden which joined around Bartlow.
In the north of Essex there was also Braintree to Bishops Stortford via Dunmow, a line to Thaxted (I think), a small line to Brightlingsea, a line from Kelvedon to Tollesbury via Tiptree, and also the Witham-to-Maldon branch line.
The rail map around this part of the country, and the rest of it, used to look a lot more dense. |
But never a line to Ipswich presumably? | |
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| Why is there a lack of Town supporters in Suffolk (particularly around Sudbury)? on 06:45 - Oct 24 with 2282 views | carlisleaway |
| Why is there a lack of Town supporters in Suffolk (particularly around Sudbury)? on 02:11 - Oct 24 by bournemouthblue |
But never a line to Ipswich presumably? |
Blame the parents myself, living in West Suffolk I had my son at Portman Road at the age of 6 now have my Grandson aged 8 going regularly.. would not support anyone else COYB |  | | |
| Why is there a lack of Town supporters in Suffolk (particularly around Sudbury)? on 08:24 - Oct 24 with 2166 views | Hullblue |
Growing up in central Ipswich was a similar experience, to be honest.
I went to a school in the town until 2008 and Ipswich fans were still a small minority. A lot of my mates are United, Liverpool and Arsenal ‘fans’ and for a time I couldn’t have given a spare ticket away to any of them!
That’s changed a bit since the new ownership though - a couple of them came with me to watch a game last year and one of them was even talking about getting a season ticket this year. |  |
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| Why is there a lack of Town supporters in Suffolk (particularly around Sudbury)? on 09:21 - Oct 24 with 2064 views | Guthrum |
| Why is there a lack of Town supporters in Suffolk (particularly around Sudbury)? on 02:11 - Oct 24 by bournemouthblue |
But never a line to Ipswich presumably? |
Was never a direct route from Sudbury to Ipswich, only via Colchester to the south or Bury to the north. The Hadleigh line was a fairly short branch. |  |
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| Why is there a lack of Town supporters in Suffolk (particularly around Sudbury)? on 09:44 - Oct 24 with 2015 views | Wickets |
I wore my Town shirt in Mildenhall once hope that helps . |  | | |
| Why is there a lack of Town supporters in Suffolk (particularly around Sudbury)? on 09:48 - Oct 24 with 2004 views | Millsey |
| Why is there a lack of Town supporters in Suffolk (particularly around Sudbury)? on 06:45 - Oct 24 by carlisleaway |
Blame the parents myself, living in West Suffolk I had my son at Portman Road at the age of 6 now have my Grandson aged 8 going regularly.. would not support anyone else COYB |
Same with my children and now grandkids all season ticket holders and never allowed to support any other team! Being a great Dad, I allowed them a second team which they’ve now dropped ðŸ‘ðŸ‘😉 |  | | |
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