| do we need a forward in January on 14:45 - Dec 13 with 1388 views | Metal_Hacker |
| do we need a forward in January on 14:40 - Dec 13 by FrimleyBlue |
You may be right, i Just felt if that was the case then the balls coming in would be behind Jackson to hit those areas which he's leaving space in for example.
There was one on Sat as a prime example, it was either when Aluko went to byline or Burns did.. anyway ball drilled right across goal -- not backwards, and Jacksons pretty much standing by the post. You could say maybe that cross was wrong.. that would be a reason. but i just find the striker runs quite strange considering the opportunity that presents itself. But you could be absolutely spot on. |
You'd think with the amount of time on the training ground that these details would be ironed out considering KMcK's attention to detail
I dunno - let's have Will Keane and be done with it hey |  |
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| do we need a forward in January on 14:47 - Dec 13 with 1365 views | jaykay |
also looking at the table i posted we letting in one goal a game but scoring nigh on 2. so does our defense need coaching more |  |
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| do we need a forward in January on 14:47 - Dec 13 with 1353 views | FrimleyBlue |
| do we need a forward in January on 14:45 - Dec 13 by Metal_Hacker |
You'd think with the amount of time on the training ground that these details would be ironed out considering KMcK's attention to detail
I dunno - let's have Will Keane and be done with it hey |
Yeah let's just make it easy. Get it done 1st January. Win league by march. :) |  |
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| do we need a forward in January on 14:48 - Dec 13 with 1359 views | hype313 |
| do we need a forward in January on 14:42 - Dec 13 by Metal_Hacker |
I'm not saying the balls / crosses are poor I'm asking are they going into the correct area at perhaps the correct time that's all
There's nothing wrong at with his delivery , that's quite obvious in terms of area it's drilled or crossed into
Is the timing out of the crosses and the strikers / attacking players is my point
We need a striker who mixes it up like I say , front post , back post runs |
We just need someone to gamble, a fox in the box who will relish the quality of balls coming in.
That's not to say we don't create enough or don't score enough, but I just feel we could have killed teams off far easier with a menacing striker.
Clearly Ladapo and Adahme were not supposed to be the first choice, but Ladapo has done well in his time, but does have some defiencies. |  |
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| do we need a forward in January on 14:48 - Dec 13 with 1351 views | LankHenners |
| do we need a forward in January on 14:34 - Dec 13 by Metal_Hacker |
I don't think it's just a case of "intelligence"
Jackson is running int t hose positions for a reason - has he been told to drag defenders out of the way and leave a gap for an attacking midfield player ?
The balls / crosses into the box - are they hitting the intended area ?
There's far more to it than blaming individuals for not making the correct runs or not considering the accuracy of the crosses
So much more to the role than meets the eye . I don't think for one minute Jackson is making those runs to the goal line as you say because he thinks it's the best option - he's doing it for a reason. If he's not then he would be pulled up in training and analysis after the game etc |
Yeah plus I think the idea we don't have anyone to finish off balls into the box is a bit overplayed as we've scored a few like that and it's not something that's going to come off every time, particularly when we play against teams that put a lot of bodies in the box defending. Lincoln and Cheltenham are two recent examples where we put the ball in the box time and time again but they always had someone to block the resulting shot or the cross itself.
If anything there could be an issue with delivery as you allude to - Plymouth away was frustrating when we were pushing for a 2nd goal and Jackson ran the ball close to the byline on a few occasions but whilst Chaplin, Ladapo etc. had peeled off for a cutback he just had his head down and slammed it across the six yard box where no-one was.
As evidenced by our league position and every attacking stat we're very very good at most things and in the second half of the season we may just need a bit more thrust to cover for injuries and make sure we keep going at the rate we're going. |  |
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| do we need a forward in January on 14:52 - Dec 13 with 1332 views | FrimleyBlue |
| do we need a forward in January on 14:47 - Dec 13 by jaykay |
also looking at the table i posted we letting in one goal a game but scoring nigh on 2. so does our defense need coaching more |
It's an interesting area. Our defence.
Overall it must be good to conceded so few chances.
But.. does that come from a better attacking defence rather than resting on the actual defensive shoulders.
It does appear to me that when our attacking defenses get breached, our actual defence struggles to cope with what comes at them. Alot of goals conceded have just been crosses into the box which you'd think we'd cope with.. but we do struggle.
I think we may end up with a new defender as there's something amiss with the whole edmundson situation. And keogh for me just isn't suited.
But I also can see us concentrating more on ensuring we can maintain a defence with our high pressing game.. so that needs new 10 reinforcements and another midfielder. Imo. | |
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| do we need a forward in January on 14:53 - Dec 13 with 1342 views | Metal_Hacker |
| do we need a forward in January on 14:48 - Dec 13 by hype313 |
We just need someone to gamble, a fox in the box who will relish the quality of balls coming in.
That's not to say we don't create enough or don't score enough, but I just feel we could have killed teams off far easier with a menacing striker.
Clearly Ladapo and Adahme were not supposed to be the first choice, but Ladapo has done well in his time, but does have some defiencies. |
Was thinking the other day Morsy and other midfield players should also be popping up a little more often than perhaps they are .Those balls / crosses cut back from Burns are begging for someone to finish off ala Tommy Miller but we really lack that intent on getting into the box at times too
I agree , the crosses aren't the issue ,I don't think the "striker" is the issue per se , we just need someone to gamble and to mix it up a little | |
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| do we need a forward in January on 14:55 - Dec 13 with 1327 views | SheffordBlue |
Lots of calls for a high quality fox in the box. Think that individual would also either:
1) As a starter - do the hard pressing/creating space that the other 9s have been asked to do all season. I really can't see us abandoning that approach to suit an outright striker. It's been key to our defensive record as well as our attacking one.
2) As a sub - be prepared to be a sub. Are the likes of Keane going to be happy doing 30 minutes off the bench on a regular basis. |  |
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| do we need a forward in January on 14:56 - Dec 13 with 1324 views | hype313 |
| do we need a forward in January on 14:53 - Dec 13 by Metal_Hacker |
Was thinking the other day Morsy and other midfield players should also be popping up a little more often than perhaps they are .Those balls / crosses cut back from Burns are begging for someone to finish off ala Tommy Miller but we really lack that intent on getting into the box at times too
I agree , the crosses aren't the issue ,I don't think the "striker" is the issue per se , we just need someone to gamble and to mix it up a little |
I wonder if Morsy is holding back a little with not having Evans behind mopping up compared to Humpreys, and that's not detracting from Humpreys performances or ability btw.
Just Morsy and Evans have played far more together and have a better understanding of eachothers games. | |
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| do we need a forward in January on 14:57 - Dec 13 with 1307 views | Metal_Hacker |
| do we need a forward in January on 14:56 - Dec 13 by hype313 |
I wonder if Morsy is holding back a little with not having Evans behind mopping up compared to Humpreys, and that's not detracting from Humpreys performances or ability btw.
Just Morsy and Evans have played far more together and have a better understanding of eachothers games. |
Yeah perhaps so but I remember him for games was popping up on the edge of the box having a few shots - not seen it for a while
Could be due to Evans being out yeah | |
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| do we need a forward in January on 14:58 - Dec 13 with 1285 views | FrimleyBlue |
| do we need a forward in January on 14:56 - Dec 13 by hype313 |
I wonder if Morsy is holding back a little with not having Evans behind mopping up compared to Humpreys, and that's not detracting from Humpreys performances or ability btw.
Just Morsy and Evans have played far more together and have a better understanding of eachothers games. |
Morsy certainly did begin to get on the end of some cut backs wasn't he.. I think you tend to see Humphreys just outside the box now, rather than Morsy being a late box runner. | |
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| do we need a forward in January on 15:03 - Dec 13 with 1269 views | bournemouthblue |
| do we need a forward in January on 14:07 - Dec 13 by Churchman |
This question appeared in another thread and a poster suggested that somebody who offered something a little different would be a good idea. I go with that, especially as John Jules is out.
So yes, despite the team doing well, a little boost in this area can only help. |
Would offering something different equate to someone who has a bit of composure and can convert a chance?
Ladapo is alright but he's not a natural goalscorer, the same applies to Jackson. They're both useful cogs in the machine, a composed finisher who hovers around the six yard box would bag a tonne of goals for us
Morgan Whittaker was an interesting link, that might suggest we aren't going to go for a cheap option potentially
Connor Wickham has been mentioned a few times, simply because his contract is up in January in Forest Green and he maybe a lower cost option
I sense we are probably looking long term if we have people like Whittaker on the radar [Post edited 13 Dec 2022 15:07]
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| do we need a forward in January on 15:14 - Dec 13 with 1224 views | CityBlue |
I believe we only need another striker if K McK is going to continue to re-role Jackson. |  |
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| do we need a forward in January on 15:16 - Dec 13 with 1204 views | FrimleyBlue |
| do we need a forward in January on 15:03 - Dec 13 by bournemouthblue |
Would offering something different equate to someone who has a bit of composure and can convert a chance?
Ladapo is alright but he's not a natural goalscorer, the same applies to Jackson. They're both useful cogs in the machine, a composed finisher who hovers around the six yard box would bag a tonne of goals for us
Morgan Whittaker was an interesting link, that might suggest we aren't going to go for a cheap option potentially
Connor Wickham has been mentioned a few times, simply because his contract is up in January in Forest Green and he maybe a lower cost option
I sense we are probably looking long term if we have people like Whittaker on the radar [Post edited 13 Dec 2022 15:07]
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It's a difficult one
Any striker signing will fall into 1 of 2 category
Either, regular scorer, experienced, short term deal maybe 2 years max
Or, Upcoming striker with a Davis type high level ceiling on what £££ he could be worth in years to come.
A whittaker as you mention is a prime candidate in that 2nd group. | |
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| do we need a forward in January on 15:18 - Dec 13 with 1205 views | jaykay |
reading the replies most people want a proven goal scorer even though we one of the top scoring teams over the top 4 leagues . but we still leak late goals | |
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| do we need a forward in January on 15:19 - Dec 13 with 1201 views | SheffordBlue |
| do we need a forward in January on 15:16 - Dec 13 by FrimleyBlue |
It's a difficult one
Any striker signing will fall into 1 of 2 category
Either, regular scorer, experienced, short term deal maybe 2 years max
Or, Upcoming striker with a Davis type high level ceiling on what £££ he could be worth in years to come.
A whittaker as you mention is a prime candidate in that 2nd group. |
One in the former category with someone in the latter category who can also play as a 10 would be my guess for the window. TJJ could play both roles and is what we are now missing. | |
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| do we need a forward in January on 15:21 - Dec 13 with 1175 views | FrimleyBlue |
| do we need a forward in January on 15:18 - Dec 13 by jaykay |
reading the replies most people want a proven goal scorer even though we one of the top scoring teams over the top 4 leagues . but we still leak late goals |
If we can end up having more 2/3 goal leads over the 1 goal leads... those numbers of late conceded goals imo will reduce mainly because teams will naturally give him.
But the recent past has shown us to get 1, then concede, get another... belief for opponents that we will fold for an equaliser.
Apart from the Charlton game. How how many times have we been 2 goals ahead from say 70 minutes? [Post edited 13 Dec 2022 15:29]
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| do we need a forward in January on 15:28 - Dec 13 with 1155 views | GlasgowBlue |
Yes. John Jules is out for another three and a half months Ahadme is yet to impress. I heard somewhere that Ahadme may go out on loan. So that would leave just Ladapo and Jackson as our only fit strikers.
For me it is either Wickham or Will Keane to come in January. Bonne as an outside bet. |  |
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| do we need a forward in January on 15:29 - Dec 13 with 1149 views | itfcjoe |
Yes, Ladapo is doing well but he only averages 53 minutes per match, whoever has covered the other 37 hasn't contributed anything like Ladapo has
Freddie leads the league in xG per 90, is 3rd in shots per 90, and is 7th in goals per 90......obviosuly not all their other time on pitch has been spent as a 9, but he is a long way ahead of Jackson and TJJ.
If we can get someone of a simialr ability/style as Ladapo to share the load, or someone even better then our number 9 will be our main source of goals |  |
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| do we need a forward in January on 15:31 - Dec 13 with 1121 views | FrimleyBlue |
| do we need a forward in January on 15:28 - Dec 13 by GlasgowBlue |
Yes. John Jules is out for another three and a half months Ahadme is yet to impress. I heard somewhere that Ahadme may go out on loan. So that would leave just Ladapo and Jackson as our only fit strikers.
For me it is either Wickham or Will Keane to come in January. Bonne as an outside bet. |
Ahadme was a strange signing. Don't see what profile of Km's he would suit.
Not to say he's not a handy striker ( we've not seen much of him as yet) but when you think of how we play he just seems a strange signing. | |
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| do we need a forward in January on 15:49 - Dec 13 with 1077 views | LeoMuff |
| do we need a forward in January on 15:28 - Dec 13 by GlasgowBlue |
Yes. John Jules is out for another three and a half months Ahadme is yet to impress. I heard somewhere that Ahadme may go out on loan. So that would leave just Ladapo and Jackson as our only fit strikers.
For me it is either Wickham or Will Keane to come in January. Bonne as an outside bet. |
Yep, this is how I see it, we need back up/competition for Ladapo, Ahadme isn’t upto speed yet, Keane or Wickham would strengthen us and know the place, and Bonne also if these didn’t come off. |  |
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| do we need a forward in January on 15:56 - Dec 13 with 1056 views | bournemouthblue |
| do we need a forward in January on 15:31 - Dec 13 by FrimleyBlue |
Ahadme was a strange signing. Don't see what profile of Km's he would suit.
Not to say he's not a handy striker ( we've not seen much of him as yet) but when you think of how we play he just seems a strange signing. |
I wouldn't say it was a panic signing, it just seemed to be one that perhaps was an option and he could develop
I don't think the injury has helped him, so far I'd suggest he does a similar role to Ladapo with less effect
A loan might do him good, he looked a decent player for Burton when he played us | |
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| do we need a forward in January on 15:59 - Dec 13 with 1049 views | SheffordBlue |
| do we need a forward in January on 15:56 - Dec 13 by bournemouthblue |
I wouldn't say it was a panic signing, it just seemed to be one that perhaps was an option and he could develop
I don't think the injury has helped him, so far I'd suggest he does a similar role to Ladapo with less effect
A loan might do him good, he looked a decent player for Burton when he played us |
Isn't the only loan option to send him back to Burton due to the 2 clubs per season rule? | |
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| do we need a forward in January on 16:14 - Dec 13 with 1017 views | jaykay |
| do we need a forward in January on 15:21 - Dec 13 by FrimleyBlue |
If we can end up having more 2/3 goal leads over the 1 goal leads... those numbers of late conceded goals imo will reduce mainly because teams will naturally give him.
But the recent past has shown us to get 1, then concede, get another... belief for opponents that we will fold for an equaliser.
Apart from the Charlton game. How how many times have we been 2 goals ahead from say 70 minutes? [Post edited 13 Dec 2022 15:29]
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we beat theses side up with being 2 up so not sure what you saying
exeter port vale cambridge bristol rovers accrington shrewsbury milton kynes forest green [Post edited 13 Dec 2022 17:10]
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| do we need a forward in January on 17:04 - Dec 13 with 948 views | ipswichtillidie |
| do we need a forward in January on 14:42 - Dec 13 by Metal_Hacker |
I'm not saying the balls / crosses are poor I'm asking are they going into the correct area at perhaps the correct time that's all
There's nothing wrong at with his delivery , that's quite obvious in terms of area it's drilled or crossed into
Is the timing out of the crosses and the strikers / attacking players is my point
We need a striker who mixes it up like I say , front post , back post runs |
Yes. Adhame for me seems the strangest of signings. I’d expect a replacement for JJ as mentioned so a 10 and also a 9. I think there will be another player in there too possible as cover for a few areas. RM would be my guess.
Strikers
Hirst Loan/buy
Collins (Bristol)
Harris (p’boro) |  |
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