| Why are we going for Taylor? 11:24 - Jan 3 with 10211 views | KieranMcKenna1 |
He’s just going to be sitting on bench isn’t he? Would rather we spent most of our January budget on a number 9. |  |
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| Why are we going for Taylor? on 14:24 - Jan 3 with 2338 views | FrimleyBlue |
| Why are we going for Taylor? on 14:00 - Jan 3 by Dyland |
He would play him deeper or more forward during a game with someone else being subbed, switching our shape.
The idea that Morsy is subbed or dropped for any other reason than injury, tiredness or suspension, is fantastical. |
More forward isn't a great option when that's not his best attribute imo.
He was perfect yesterday for example dropping deep collecting the ball. But 2nd half when they dropped deeper and deeper he was the leading CM but looked lost when he made the 'D'
I just feel some games require something alittle bit more than what Morst can offer. But it all depends how the game is going. |  |
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| Why are we going for Taylor? on 14:28 - Jan 3 with 2286 views | TalkingBlues |
| Why are we going for Taylor? on 14:07 - Jan 3 by PhilTWTD |
That's how they have invested money over the last year or so.
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I don't suppose there's much of that left by now, wonder if there will be further share issuance, or if that is our lot for this season? We haven't exactly been splurging wads of cash on players since McK arrived.
Tell them to sort out a decent number 9 please Phil, thanks. |  |
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| Why are we going for Taylor? on 14:30 - Jan 3 with 2266 views | FrimleyBlue |
| Why are we going for Taylor? on 14:00 - Jan 3 by pointofblue |
When fit and not suspended I’m pretty sure Morsy will be ever present. It’ll be Evans role which will be shared with Taylor, or perhaps the latter may take the place of Chaplin or Harness for a few games. |
Some games like yesterday and pompy. I felt you needed Evans as he's so far the only cm that's been capable of switching play with ease and prior to injury was one of the best in the league for attacking outlets.
There wasn't any need for a deep lying cm in the 2nd half so personally if we'd had a more creative CM alongside Evans not only do you maintain the ability to switch play you bring a bit more creativity in that final third. | |
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| Why are we going for Taylor? on 14:36 - Jan 3 with 2217 views | FrimleyBlue |
| Why are we going for Taylor? on 13:57 - Jan 3 by SpruceMoose |
Genuinely curious about the creative process behind how you come up with some of these theories. There's probably a good novel in you somewhere FrimleyMakin! |
I just don't get sucked into thinking all of our players are untouchable just because they either had a great year last year or they came down from the championship so they're a dead cert for every game.
Games need different things. Us continuing to do the same thing is one of the reasons we've come unstuck.
It's fine for you all to believe Morsy is untouchable. And you may well be right. But my own opinion is that if we want to break down teams who sit deep, we need much more attacking ability from both of our cms. Not 1. | |
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| Why are we going for Taylor? on 14:38 - Jan 3 with 2188 views | itfcjoe |
| Why are we going for Taylor? on 14:28 - Jan 3 by TalkingBlues |
I don't suppose there's much of that left by now, wonder if there will be further share issuance, or if that is our lot for this season? We haven't exactly been splurging wads of cash on players since McK arrived.
Tell them to sort out a decent number 9 please Phil, thanks. |
From listening to Mark Steed, I think the pot is basically unlimited if we can put a good enough business case together for it and them
We are fighting for investment as well as the other companies the Pension Fund invests in and we just need to make our case |  |
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| Why are we going for Taylor? on 14:39 - Jan 3 with 2178 views | HighgateBlue |
| Why are we going for Taylor? on 12:57 - Jan 3 by tractorboy1978 |
SCMP at this level is a nonsense. Owners can put in as much equity as they want and it counts as turnover. It's easier to build a squad at this level than it is in the Championship. [Post edited 3 Jan 2023 12:57]
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Yes, and the way I read the rules, we can spend 100% of a (potentially unlimited) cash injection towards transfer fees/wages/sign on fees, whereas only 60% of normal turnover can go towards it. Go figure. |  | | |
| Why are we going for Taylor? on 14:42 - Jan 3 with 2139 views | tractorboy1978 |
| Why are we going for Taylor? on 13:23 - Jan 3 by Horsham |
The main limiting factor is squad size, with us at 20 of an allowed 22 over 21 outfield players.
Getting 3 and Kenlocking Ball is reasonable but any more and we’re likely to have fit players we need to move on or keep but not be able to pick which I’m sure we’d sooner avoid. |
Suspect Camara will be removed from the squad too. |  | | |
| Why are we going for Taylor? on 14:47 - Jan 3 with 2082 views | Dyland |
| Why are we going for Taylor? on 14:36 - Jan 3 by FrimleyBlue |
I just don't get sucked into thinking all of our players are untouchable just because they either had a great year last year or they came down from the championship so they're a dead cert for every game.
Games need different things. Us continuing to do the same thing is one of the reasons we've come unstuck.
It's fine for you all to believe Morsy is untouchable. And you may well be right. But my own opinion is that if we want to break down teams who sit deep, we need much more attacking ability from both of our cms. Not 1. |
Morsy is capable of gaining the yards, he just doesn't have a very good shot on him. Equally importantly, he doesn't lose the ball, so we can continue to press. He's our Roy Keane, basically. A player who was first on the team sheet come what may.
I hear what you are saying, but it's purely theoretical. It's unrealistic to think there would be a better midfield pairing at this level that doesn't have Morsy in it innit. |  |
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| Why are we going for Taylor? on 14:51 - Jan 3 with 2044 views | Horsham |
| Why are we going for Taylor? on 14:42 - Jan 3 by tractorboy1978 |
Suspect Camara will be removed from the squad too. |
Yeah. I was thinking the same but held back as my inference of the injury news was that we still hope for something from him this season. You could well be right of course!
I suppose other options are players in the last 6 months of their contracts who could be released early at a guess someone like KVY if we wanted to replace him. |  | | |
| Why are we going for Taylor? on 15:00 - Jan 3 with 1972 views | tractorboy1978 |
| Why are we going for Taylor? on 14:47 - Jan 3 by Dyland |
Morsy is capable of gaining the yards, he just doesn't have a very good shot on him. Equally importantly, he doesn't lose the ball, so we can continue to press. He's our Roy Keane, basically. A player who was first on the team sheet come what may.
I hear what you are saying, but it's purely theoretical. It's unrealistic to think there would be a better midfield pairing at this level that doesn't have Morsy in it innit. |
He's the driving force behind the whole team. He drove us to that equaliser at Pompey, so interesting hot take Frimley would have subbed him. | | | |
| Why are we going for Taylor? on 15:02 - Jan 3 with 1959 views | TalkingBlues |
| Why are we going for Taylor? on 14:38 - Jan 3 by itfcjoe |
From listening to Mark Steed, I think the pot is basically unlimited if we can put a good enough business case together for it and them
We are fighting for investment as well as the other companies the Pension Fund invests in and we just need to make our case |
Love the fact that it could be unlimited (within reason one would think) but god knows how you go about putting another compelling business case together for that (one that isn't the same as the original plan proposed anyway) as any money for player purchase is always speculative money, but given what they've already invested in to the club (which I'm sure they can see has/will mostly have been spent on off-pitch requirements) it would be a tad remiss to then turn down further funds to strengthen the playing squad.
Now we just have to encourage Ashton and McKenna to splurge, over the last couple of months this window has grown increasingly important to our season and I'm a bit worried by what appears to be a lack of quality available in the market, looks like it's going to take big money to bring in a decent 9. | |
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| Why are we going for Taylor? on 15:04 - Jan 3 with 1929 views | itfcjoe |
| Why are we going for Taylor? on 15:02 - Jan 3 by TalkingBlues |
Love the fact that it could be unlimited (within reason one would think) but god knows how you go about putting another compelling business case together for that (one that isn't the same as the original plan proposed anyway) as any money for player purchase is always speculative money, but given what they've already invested in to the club (which I'm sure they can see has/will mostly have been spent on off-pitch requirements) it would be a tad remiss to then turn down further funds to strengthen the playing squad.
Now we just have to encourage Ashton and McKenna to splurge, over the last couple of months this window has grown increasingly important to our season and I'm a bit worried by what appears to be a lack of quality available in the market, looks like it's going to take big money to bring in a decent 9. |
If we don't go up and progress then Ashton is one who will be on chopping block so I'd imagine he'll be going balls out this window
I think we'll make a couple of splashy signings - because it is also easier to build squad in this league than the Champ financially - but time is of the essence....need to get business done early or it could be too late | |
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| Why are we going for Taylor? on 15:11 - Jan 3 with 1853 views | BiGDonnie |
| Why are we going for Taylor? on 14:36 - Jan 3 by FrimleyBlue |
I just don't get sucked into thinking all of our players are untouchable just because they either had a great year last year or they came down from the championship so they're a dead cert for every game.
Games need different things. Us continuing to do the same thing is one of the reasons we've come unstuck.
It's fine for you all to believe Morsy is untouchable. And you may well be right. But my own opinion is that if we want to break down teams who sit deep, we need much more attacking ability from both of our cms. Not 1. |
New year same Frimley I see. |  |
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| Why are we going for Taylor? on 15:30 - Jan 3 with 1738 views | DJR |
| Why are we going for Taylor? on 15:11 - Jan 3 by BiGDonnie |
New year same Frimley I see. |
Let's not go for the man. He is expressing an opinion, and there is something in what he says in that we can be a bit predictable, and have two CMs who don't move the ball forward that quickly and aren't particularly prolific. Of course at this level, it is unlikely we'll get anyone better to replace them, but it might be nice if we had a midfielder on the bench who offered something different for when the going gets tough. |  | | |
| Why are we going for Taylor? on 15:32 - Jan 3 with 1715 views | itfcjoe |
| Why are we going for Taylor? on 15:30 - Jan 3 by DJR |
Let's not go for the man. He is expressing an opinion, and there is something in what he says in that we can be a bit predictable, and have two CMs who don't move the ball forward that quickly and aren't particularly prolific. Of course at this level, it is unlikely we'll get anyone better to replace them, but it might be nice if we had a midfielder on the bench who offered something different for when the going gets tough. |
Morsy is the heartbeat and driving force of the team and generally the best player on the pitch - there isn't a better option for him that would add more than losing him would subtract | |
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| Why are we going for Taylor? on 15:57 - Jan 3 with 1579 views | BtreeBlueBlood |
| Why are we going for Taylor? on 11:34 - Jan 3 by PhilTWTD |
We've got two of our four central midfielders out for almost the whole season. |
Definitely need cover for Ball JJ and Kamara.
Losing JJ ultimately has changed our dynamics.
JJ 1 game
Ladapo the next. Or horses 4 courses |  | | |
| Why are we going for Taylor? on 15:57 - Jan 3 with 1579 views | DJR |
| Why are we going for Taylor? on 15:32 - Jan 3 by itfcjoe |
Morsy is the heartbeat and driving force of the team and generally the best player on the pitch - there isn't a better option for him that would add more than losing him would subtract |
I think your view reflect that of McKenna, which I suppose is all that matters. But in games where we are dominating but things aren't working, I am not sure taking off Morsy would subtract that much, if we had someone with ability to change our approach. At present, we haven't got such a player. [Post edited 3 Jan 2023 15:58]
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| Why are we going for Taylor? on 16:09 - Jan 3 with 1503 views | Metal_Hacker |
| Why are we going for Taylor? on 15:57 - Jan 3 by DJR |
I think your view reflect that of McKenna, which I suppose is all that matters. But in games where we are dominating but things aren't working, I am not sure taking off Morsy would subtract that much, if we had someone with ability to change our approach. At present, we haven't got such a player. [Post edited 3 Jan 2023 15:58]
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I do tend to agree with this thought process
I said only the other day we need someone who's capable of unlocking these low block teams .A Celina-Esque midfielder with an eye for a cheeky pass around the corner
Would always start (for the most with both Morsy and Evans obviously) but in the games like the Lincoln and many others this season it needs mixing up a little .Either taking Morsy or Evans off and replacing with someone more capable of THAT pass for the last 20 mins as an alternative approach to go for the 3 points |  |
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| Why are we going for Taylor? on 16:31 - Jan 3 with 1396 views | strikalite |
Ball carrying midfielder who has the ability to score goals from outside the box, quality player, really hope this happens... |  | | |
| Why are we going for Taylor? on 16:36 - Jan 3 with 1352 views | Parky |
| Why are we going for Taylor? on 13:56 - Jan 3 by Stu_boy |
If the posh need the cash, can we do a double deal for Taylor and jch? |
JCH isn’t all that, I’d rather Joe Ward from them to hopefully give Burns a rocket up his arse. | | | |
| Why are we going for Taylor? on 16:37 - Jan 3 with 1331 views | Kieran_Knows |
| Why are we going for Taylor? on 16:36 - Jan 3 by Parky |
JCH isn’t all that, I’d rather Joe Ward from them to hopefully give Burns a rocket up his arse. |
Absolutely. Seems to be some fascination with JCH on this forum.
Agree about Burns also. Ward would be a cracking little signing. |  |
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| Why are we going for Taylor? on 16:49 - Jan 3 with 1263 views | FrimleyBlue |
| Why are we going for Taylor? on 16:37 - Jan 3 by Kieran_Knows |
Absolutely. Seems to be some fascination with JCH on this forum.
Agree about Burns also. Ward would be a cracking little signing. |
I'd like JCH as he was league 1 top score in 20/21. And top 2 as it stands this season. | |
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| Why are we going for Taylor? on 16:50 - Jan 3 with 1238 views | Horsham |
| Why are we going for Taylor? on 16:09 - Jan 3 by Metal_Hacker |
I do tend to agree with this thought process
I said only the other day we need someone who's capable of unlocking these low block teams .A Celina-Esque midfielder with an eye for a cheeky pass around the corner
Would always start (for the most with both Morsy and Evans obviously) but in the games like the Lincoln and many others this season it needs mixing up a little .Either taking Morsy or Evans off and replacing with someone more capable of THAT pass for the last 20 mins as an alternative approach to go for the 3 points |
That is a very decent player at our level though. Potentially Humphreys is as good at playing that instinctive pass as anyone we could realistically sign.
Edit - to be honest getting players in with the ability to score the odd thunderb@stard or make bully a defence physically is probably more achievable and likely to be more effective. [Post edited 3 Jan 2023 16:54]
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| Why are we going for Taylor? on 16:59 - Jan 3 with 1164 views | blueislander |
| Why are we going for Taylor? on 16:50 - Jan 3 by Horsham |
That is a very decent player at our level though. Potentially Humphreys is as good at playing that instinctive pass as anyone we could realistically sign.
Edit - to be honest getting players in with the ability to score the odd thunderb@stard or make bully a defence physically is probably more achievable and likely to be more effective. [Post edited 3 Jan 2023 16:54]
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Chaplin is the one we have with the imagination to make that pass to unlock a packed defence . He does often try them but ,obviously a lot don’t come off. Sometimes because he doesn’t quite execute, and sometimes because his colleagues haven’t anticipated the pass. | | | |
| Why are we going for Taylor? on 17:04 - Jan 3 with 1131 views | Horsham |
| Why are we going for Taylor? on 16:59 - Jan 3 by blueislander |
Chaplin is the one we have with the imagination to make that pass to unlock a packed defence . He does often try them but ,obviously a lot don’t come off. Sometimes because he doesn’t quite execute, and sometimes because his colleagues haven’t anticipated the pass. |
That’s very true. Sometimes some of the off the cuff stuff Harness does is pretty good in that regard too.
For all the comments about our inability to break an opponent down we have scored a lot of goals this season. | | | |
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