| I think fans are overplaying the 'CB rotation' we do..... 15:22 - Feb 15 with 1793 views | itfcjoe |
....in reality we just rotate the front 3 players.
Illness and injury aside - bar the Morecambe away game then the Morecambe and Cambridge games last month it has basically been this
Woolf and Edmundson until Edmundson dropped
Woolf and Burgess until Burgess injured
Woolf and Edmundson until Burgess fit
Woolf and Burgess until now
Same with the goalkeeper
Same with Burns and Davis wide
Same with Morsy and Evans if fit, if not Humphreys in midfield
The only real unforced changes we've had to:
--------------------------------Walton-----------------------------
-----------------JD-------------Woolf---------Fridge then Burgess-----------
-Burns--------------Morsy---------Evans(Humphreys)------Davis
Is since Clarke has come in for JD, who had been struggling, and when he swapped the CBs for the Morecambe and Cambridge games. |  |
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| I think fans are overplaying the 'CB rotation' we do..... on 15:24 - Feb 15 with 1759 views | Marshalls_Mullet |
JD and Clarke have been swapping.
Keogh has been in at times.
No real reason to rotate the front 3. |  |
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| I think fans are overplaying the 'CB rotation' we do..... on 15:29 - Feb 15 with 1706 views | itfcjoe |
| I think fans are overplaying the 'CB rotation' we do..... on 15:24 - Feb 15 by Marshalls_Mullet |
JD and Clarke have been swapping.
Keogh has been in at times.
No real reason to rotate the front 3. |
Keogh has started 4 games - he came in for the Morecambe game, played against Wycombe when Woolfie was injured and then came in for the Morecambe again and then retained place for the Cambridge game.
3 starts out of 30 games due to rotation, 2 of them in a row | |
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| I think fans are overplaying the 'CB rotation' we do..... on 15:29 - Feb 15 with 1697 views | pointofblue |
| I think fans are overplaying the 'CB rotation' we do..... on 15:25 - Feb 15 by itfcsuth |
Fans over playing and minutely scrutinising everything we are doing now, when the reality is we have changed little from our early season form other than confidence and belief, which is still the most important factor of any footballer.
It does tickle me that we suddenly have all the coaching experts on here and social media that suddenly have all the answers to our problems, and are seemingly more knowledgeable than one of the brightest young footballing minds in Europe.
Only Ipswich fans  [Post edited 15 Feb 2023 15:29]
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Football fans, surely?
I’m sure Manchester City fans knew what the issue was when City went through their blip and now Arsenal have drawn a couple, there will be some who are saying Arteta should be doing things differently.
As for Liverpool fans and Klopp… [Post edited 15 Feb 2023 15:29]
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| I think fans are overplaying the 'CB rotation' we do..... on 15:32 - Feb 15 with 1618 views | LankHenners |
Think the rotation in general is being overplayed. Sure there might have been the odd occasion where you can argue the toss over which forward player should have started over another but it's rarely been the main issue.
It's the classic football fan thing of falling into the trap where, when results don't go well, then whatever they can see on the pitch is clearly wrong and something, anything else would clearly solve the situation. |  |
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| I think fans are overplaying the 'CB rotation' we do..... on 15:33 - Feb 15 with 1615 views | Beckets |
But in our successful start to the season there was little or no rotation throughout the team. Walton, JD, Woolfy, GE, Davis, Morsy, Evans, Wes, CC, Harness and Freddie. They were then supplemented by some energy off the subs bench in the second half. Surely during that period he must have seen the benefit of having a settled side wherever possible. |  | | |
| I think fans are overplaying the 'CB rotation' we do..... on 15:36 - Feb 15 with 1566 views | Herbivore |
| I think fans are overplaying the 'CB rotation' we do..... on 15:33 - Feb 15 by Beckets |
But in our successful start to the season there was little or no rotation throughout the team. Walton, JD, Woolfy, GE, Davis, Morsy, Evans, Wes, CC, Harness and Freddie. They were then supplemented by some energy off the subs bench in the second half. Surely during that period he must have seen the benefit of having a settled side wherever possible. |
John-Jules made 8 league starts prior to his injury and Jackson has 10 league starts to his name, quite a few of those coming earlier in the season. This season and last, McKenna has tended to rotate the front players fairly regularly. |  |
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| I think fans are overplaying the 'CB rotation' we do..... on 15:37 - Feb 15 with 1553 views | Marshalls_Mullet |
| I think fans are overplaying the 'CB rotation' we do..... on 15:29 - Feb 15 by itfcjoe |
Keogh has started 4 games - he came in for the Morecambe game, played against Wycombe when Woolfie was injured and then came in for the Morecambe again and then retained place for the Cambridge game.
3 starts out of 30 games due to rotation, 2 of them in a row |
All comes into the overall picture. | |
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| I think fans are overplaying the 'CB rotation' we do..... on 15:38 - Feb 15 with 1541 views | FrimleyBlue |
What is the basis of what is classed as over rotation anyway?
I don't know if this is good or a bad thing tbh.
But since 1st November when you can say this rough patch started ( when we were top for example)
Since then it looks like we had the same back 4 three times in back to back games out of 20 games.
Again i don't know if thats a bad thing but It does make sense why people see it as quite a lot of rotation. |  |
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| I think fans are overplaying the 'CB rotation' we do..... on 15:38 - Feb 15 with 1544 views | nodge_blue |
Last night we didn't concede so any blame can't be put on the centre backs.
We just looked flat as a team. Even the warm up seemed flat. Kicking balls out of the ground and rolling off down the residential street to my amusement.
We very quickly looked like we didn't know how to break them down. The starting 11 had a second string feel to them. Only briadhead looked convincing up front when he eventually came on.
Really disappointing performance and result.
It felt like we needed two up front last night. And hit the target man. As much as I hate saying that. Playing the ball wide and passing into the box always seems to be intercepted by the opposition. And not just last night.
I think the frustration among the fans is understandable though I'd never be in your face down on the players like we saw. But going all that way for such a turgid performance is pretty deflating. |  |
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| I think fans are overplaying the 'CB rotation' we do..... on 15:48 - Feb 15 with 1430 views | hype313 |
| I think fans are overplaying the 'CB rotation' we do..... on 15:38 - Feb 15 by FrimleyBlue |
What is the basis of what is classed as over rotation anyway?
I don't know if this is good or a bad thing tbh.
But since 1st November when you can say this rough patch started ( when we were top for example)
Since then it looks like we had the same back 4 three times in back to back games out of 20 games.
Again i don't know if thats a bad thing but It does make sense why people see it as quite a lot of rotation. |
The rough patch started after the Charlton debacle, so realistically it's more psychological damage more than anything else, add in illness over Xmas that seemed to stifle any pick up and compounded the issue and bar the odd result, we haven't looked convincing at all. |  |
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| I think fans are overplaying the 'CB rotation' we do..... on 15:52 - Feb 15 with 1391 views | SheffordBlue |
| I think fans are overplaying the 'CB rotation' we do..... on 15:48 - Feb 15 by hype313 |
The rough patch started after the Charlton debacle, so realistically it's more psychological damage more than anything else, add in illness over Xmas that seemed to stifle any pick up and compounded the issue and bar the odd result, we haven't looked convincing at all. |
Lots made of Charlton from a psychological perspective but that was also the last game where Ball and TJJ were both available for a League fixture. After that it meant either Freddie up front or Jackson in a role that wasn't suit to him. It meant that when Evans picked up an injury we had to rely on a very good, but physically smaller, CM rather than bring in a player with significant Championship experience.
I'm sure the late goals conceded at Charlton hurt but there is more to it than that IMO | |
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| I think fans are overplaying the 'CB rotation' we do..... on 15:57 - Feb 15 with 1366 views | SamWhiteUK |
| I think fans are overplaying the 'CB rotation' we do..... on 15:33 - Feb 15 by Beckets |
But in our successful start to the season there was little or no rotation throughout the team. Walton, JD, Woolfy, GE, Davis, Morsy, Evans, Wes, CC, Harness and Freddie. They were then supplemented by some energy off the subs bench in the second half. Surely during that period he must have seen the benefit of having a settled side wherever possible. |
Really? I think there was quite a lot at the start of the season as well. It just wasn't seen as a problem then, because we were winning. |  | | |
| I think fans are overplaying the 'CB rotation' we do..... on 15:57 - Feb 15 with 1364 views | itfcsuth |
| I think fans are overplaying the 'CB rotation' we do..... on 15:40 - Feb 15 by Illinoisblue |
Any and all fans of a club that are in free fall like we are would react exactly the same way. Probably worse in some cases. |
We're not in free fall you plonker.
We are in a rough run of form, to label it as freefall is a touch melodramatic. |  | | |
| I think fans are overplaying the 'CB rotation' we do..... on 16:00 - Feb 15 with 1348 views | FifeITFC |
While I agree squads are larger, I think too much rotating is damaging.
Take the forwards, nobody knows who is "first choice" and nobody seems to get a run of games in settle into a routine or a good rhythm of games.
I do believe it's why we aren't demolishing teams like, on paper, are team should be doing more often.
Just think the rotating, although handy being able to throw on 5 different and particularly game changing players, could it also be our own undoing too? Nobody will feel like they can hold down a place because they'll play 1, 2 or 3 games and then taken out.
Could it be our squad size and supposed strength in depth costing us because he's trying to give everyone minutes against allowing a player to run into a good spell of form over a larger number of matches? |  |
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| I think fans are overplaying the 'CB rotation' we do..... on 16:01 - Feb 15 with 1344 views | BlueBlood90 |
The squad is far too big and there's far too much rotation by KMc all over the pitch. Lambert got slaughtered for doing similar. |  |
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| I think fans are overplaying the 'CB rotation' we do..... on 16:11 - Feb 15 with 1291 views | FrimleyBlue |
| I think fans are overplaying the 'CB rotation' we do..... on 15:57 - Feb 15 by itfcsuth |
We're not in free fall you plonker.
We are in a rough run of form, to label it as freefall is a touch melodramatic. |
Isn't a month a rough run.
We've got 2 games that needs 6 point return. Otherwise it's 4 months of a rough run.
4 months is more than a rough run isn't it? | |
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| I think fans are overplaying the 'CB rotation' we do..... on 16:26 - Feb 15 with 1210 views | Illinoisblue |
| I think fans are overplaying the 'CB rotation' we do..... on 15:57 - Feb 15 by itfcsuth |
We're not in free fall you plonker.
We are in a rough run of form, to label it as freefall is a touch melodramatic. |
4 wins in 15 and a drop from automatics to scrambling for a playoff place… feels like free fall to me |  |
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| I think fans are overplaying the 'CB rotation' we do..... on 16:49 - Feb 15 with 1089 views | itfcsuth |
| I think fans are overplaying the 'CB rotation' we do..... on 16:26 - Feb 15 by Illinoisblue |
4 wins in 15 and a drop from automatics to scrambling for a playoff place… feels like free fall to me |
Lost twice, drawn far too many.
We aren't scrambling for play off place at all, don't be helmet, keep a bit of composure for crying out loud. | | | |
| I think fans are overplaying the 'CB rotation' we do..... on 21:03 - Feb 15 with 897 views | Marshalls_Mullet |
Its the rotation of the forwards that concerns me. | |
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