| That AI, nicking our jobs 11:01 - May 3 with 4285 views | giant_stow |
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-65459827
Any thoughts on this? As a web bod, its scared the crap out of me, but what do you lot think?
If whole tranches of jobs disappear, what becomes of society? Do we just fck off and die? Become serfs feeding on crumbs thrown from the top tables? Or even just enjoy all our new free-time as we lead mission-less lives? [Post edited 3 May 2023 11:29]
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| That AI, nicking our jobs on 13:53 - May 3 with 1148 views | DanTheMan |
| That AI, nicking our jobs on 13:48 - May 3 by giant_stow |
I take what you're saying and you're right that about music following well-established patterns and rules, but isn't that true with most creative or thinking industries? Be it music, graphic design, writing, financial trading, data analysis, coding etc... |
On the coding side, in my experience, GPT (in various flavours) is good at suggesting short snippets of code but when it comes to understanding anything like domain logic or things that require reasoning it just completely falls to pieces. It's very good at doing the donkey work but that's only like 20% of the job.
Handy for writing tests though, even if they do require some tweaking. |  |
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| That AI, nicking our jobs on 13:55 - May 3 with 1136 views | giant_stow |
| That AI, nicking our jobs on 13:53 - May 3 by DanTheMan |
On the coding side, in my experience, GPT (in various flavours) is good at suggesting short snippets of code but when it comes to understanding anything like domain logic or things that require reasoning it just completely falls to pieces. It's very good at doing the donkey work but that's only like 20% of the job.
Handy for writing tests though, even if they do require some tweaking. |
That's reassuring - cheers!
Still, quite early days though, so who knows what will become possible. | |
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| That AI, nicking our jobs on 13:57 - May 3 with 1128 views | stonojnr |
| That AI, nicking our jobs on 11:22 - May 3 by RobTheMonk |
Part of the issue is that humans can't have nice things. On the face of it, ChatGPT can be a hugely useful tool to enhance learning.
But if you can't really be arsed, then ChatGPT is an easy corridor for lackluster working and not understanding source material.
That we live in an instant gratification society doesn't help either.
You also have an insane amount of YouTubers/Influencers talking about how you can use AI to write articles, create content etc. It's no wonder certain markets are being flooded. |
South Park have already made a ChatGPT written episode, its not youtubers or influencers just talking about this stuff. |  | | |
| That AI, nicking our jobs on 14:09 - May 3 with 1122 views | Guthrum |
| That AI, nicking our jobs on 13:44 - May 3 by NthQldITFC |
But surely createChild($objSubgoal, $doNoHarm=0, $independent=1, $allowProgeny=1) could be called on some condition being met, and deployed to a cloud server account with more-or-less limitless data access and processing capacity, could it not? |
Only if you'd told it to and set out the criteria for triggering. Along with what the goal would be and how it could interface back into the original system.
But that's very little different to a system which can call upon pre-existing external data and software when required. For example, some new thermostats can look up the weather forecast and tariff regimes, using them to plan heating cycles to save energy/cost. Massive potential power and control - but they're still only thermostats. |  |
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| That AI, nicking our jobs on 14:41 - May 3 with 1093 views | The_Flashing_Smile |
| That AI, nicking our jobs on 13:48 - May 3 by giant_stow |
I take what you're saying and you're right that about music following well-established patterns and rules, but isn't that true with most creative or thinking industries? Be it music, graphic design, writing, financial trading, data analysis, coding etc... |
No. There's only a certain amount of notes. You can't create new ones. And there's only a certain amount of arrangements of them that sound nice to the human ear.
There are far more words. And new words (and with them new ideas) are happening all the time. So there's an infinite amount of new words and ideas. |  |
| Trust the process. Trust Phil. |
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| That AI, nicking our jobs on 15:34 - May 3 with 1053 views | itfc48 |
The way I see it is that there are still a lot of people that can't even use a basic search engine like Google so not sure how those people will fair with something a bit more complex. I use AI to speed up some mundane tasks but it certainly doesn't do my whole job for me.
A worry about AI is that it is very easy to manipulate content as your sources are chosen for you. When Googling you can view the various sources and then work with the source you feel is most relevant.
I've seen a lot of rubbish use cases for AI like auto contract scanning where it just checks the key clauses - something which could end up getting people in a whole load of strife. | | | |
| That AI, nicking our jobs on 16:01 - May 3 with 1046 views | pennblue |
Have you used Twtd 3.0 yet? | |
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| That AI, nicking our jobs on 18:21 - May 3 with 1017 views | factual_blue |
You're a web bod in the sense of having webbed feet, right? |  |
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| That AI, nicking our jobs on 18:29 - May 3 with 1012 views | DJR |
I think the world has been on a steady decline since the abacus was invented. |  | | |
| That AI, nicking our jobs on 18:45 - May 3 with 1001 views | Oldsmoker |
| That AI, nicking our jobs on 11:10 - May 3 by DJR |
Soon there will be no need for contributors to TWTD as AI will be able to start and continues threads much better than we all can!
Seriously though, this seems to be advancing much more quickly than is good for society. Look at today's fall in the value of shares in education publishing companies and the like. Look at the fact that a science fiction book publisher has stopped accepting novels from authors. And just wonder what effect it will have on education more generally, if students can effectively cut corners or even cheat? [Post edited 3 May 2023 11:11]
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What we have to do on TWTD is mispell something in every post.
That way we'll know when it's human or AI.
Can everyone do something like that?
Oh, wait. |  |
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| That AI, nicking our jobs on 19:08 - May 3 with 979 views | ibbleobble |
I joined an AI ideation session at work the other day. My first question was, “what’s the business strategy and what are the business objectives that AI needs to help achieve?”.
I thought that was a good opening question to establish some parameters to ideate within. It seems not. No-one could articulate what they wanted or needed AI for other than to make more cash. This is happening in businesses across the globe right now; an uncontrolled scramble to adopt an emergent technology for fear of being left behind without anything resembling strategy or risk mitigation. | | | |
| That AI, nicking our jobs on 19:16 - May 3 with 972 views | Oldsmoker |
| That AI, nicking our jobs on 19:08 - May 3 by ibbleobble |
I joined an AI ideation session at work the other day. My first question was, “what’s the business strategy and what are the business objectives that AI needs to help achieve?”.
I thought that was a good opening question to establish some parameters to ideate within. It seems not. No-one could articulate what they wanted or needed AI for other than to make more cash. This is happening in businesses across the globe right now; an uncontrolled scramble to adopt an emergent technology for fear of being left behind without anything resembling strategy or risk mitigation. |
These people need to go on an Imagineering course.
Business speakers ARE the future that Douglas Adams predicted and they are on the Golgafrincham Ark Fleet Ship B. | |
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| That AI, nicking our jobs on 12:21 - May 4 with 885 views | unstableblue |
| That AI, nicking our jobs on 19:08 - May 3 by ibbleobble |
I joined an AI ideation session at work the other day. My first question was, “what’s the business strategy and what are the business objectives that AI needs to help achieve?”.
I thought that was a good opening question to establish some parameters to ideate within. It seems not. No-one could articulate what they wanted or needed AI for other than to make more cash. This is happening in businesses across the globe right now; an uncontrolled scramble to adopt an emergent technology for fear of being left behind without anything resembling strategy or risk mitigation. |
You've probably heard of the Digital Hype cycle:
Lots of Digital things like Virtual/Augmented Reality, got all hyped up, but failed to properly take-off .... because your question on what is the business objective or more importantly what is the business need/value were not properly addressed. So VR/AR sits in the 'trough of disillusionment' still... (thank God in the case of Zuckerbergs Metaverse).
I think AI, and particularly Generative AI is a little different, as in my post below, its quite easy to 'bolt-on' to existing business needs - decisions/processes... rather than needing to completely transform the way we work (which will also come in time). So Generative AI is already delivering on business needs... 'please rewrite this for me', 'please come to conslution for me' 'please merge these numbers in this way'
All Digital things are about automating, streamlining and cost reduction - that's there point.
But because Generative AI is so easy to adopt its going to speed right through the hype cycle into heavy use..... companies today not using it in some part are behind competitors who are
The big challenge is the scale of automation and human action/decision it replaces is considerable and therefore what does it do to the job market in the near term... I think immediately it offers an aid a productivity tool - mush like early work processors and email provided. |  |
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