| Retained List 07:42 - May 22 with 9096 views | PaphosBlue |
So we should hear this week who have been released. Assuming this will be contracts that expire this summer (the vast majority are next summer) I would guess this will include Matt Penney Nick Hayes KVY along with Sone Aluko and Keogh. Personally I hope the latter two stay at the club if only on the coaching side. This leaves a few players who's contracts expire next season that we will want to move on to free up space for new signings |  |
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| Retained List on 13:33 - May 22 with 3149 views | FevsBCFC |
| Retained List on 09:16 - May 22 by GavTWTD |
How important is this retained list? Shirley changes can be made afterwards? |
It’s a contractual obligation to advise players of their contract status by the 3rd Saturday in May and league rule also….for those players whose contract expire on 30th June. For Academy players the decision has to be made by end of March.
From the 1st of June a player can start conversations with other clubs, if he’s not already gained permission to do so.
That is not to say all contract decision must be concluded by that date (20th May), but a player is free to accept / decline and is effectively on the open market on 1st June.
Some clubs will issue their retained list stating discussions are ongoing. |  | | |
| Retained List on 13:49 - May 22 with 3072 views | Pinewoodblue |
| Retained List on 13:33 - May 22 by FevsBCFC |
It’s a contractual obligation to advise players of their contract status by the 3rd Saturday in May and league rule also….for those players whose contract expire on 30th June. For Academy players the decision has to be made by end of March.
From the 1st of June a player can start conversations with other clubs, if he’s not already gained permission to do so.
That is not to say all contract decision must be concluded by that date (20th May), but a player is free to accept / decline and is effectively on the open market on 1st June.
Some clubs will issue their retained list stating discussions are ongoing. |
As here
https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/65535979 |  |
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| Retained List on 13:51 - May 22 with 3070 views | PhilTWTD |
| Retained List on 13:16 - May 22 by SamWhiteUK |
Sure, but what's to stop the club changing its mind on a player? |
Nothing, although hardly encourages players to stay if they've not been offered terms immediately. |  | | |
| Retained List on 15:06 - May 22 with 2948 views | BlueBoots |
| Retained List on 10:14 - May 22 by xrayspecs |
I agree, he was integral, and arguably made more of a contribution to the team than Broadhead and Hirst. We started to control games once he got up to speed, and it also allowed Morsy to play his natural game.
We have four (possibly five with Humphries still a U21) central midfield slots and have Morsy, Ball, Evans, Camara, Humphreys, Harper and El Miz under contract. We were also very keen on Taylor in January, with Luongo already in the building. So there is a lot of competition and I do wonder whether KM wants a pair of 30 somethings as first choice midfielders in the Championship, or whether he wants some younger legs.
It also depends a little on how ambitious we are this transfer window and whether we are looking at better players who can partner Morsy.
I cannot see Harper making the squad and suspect that El Miz will be sold to raise some transfer funds. Humphreys could go out on loan or fulfil the same role as this season, an U21 squad player.
That leave Morsy as a shoe in. I would not be surprised if Evans is allowed to leave due to his injury record. I would like to see Camara given a chance, he was one of the best midfielders in L1 last season and could be a box to box run all day option. Dom Ball is a younger option to Massimo. I presume we will be back in for Taylor.
So, as per OP, Luoungo is the one out of contract player who could get a new deal, but time will tell. |
Camara has effectively missed over a year of football now, so could see him out on loan for first half of the season to get up to speed. Humphreys I think would benefit from a full season in L1 - need to look long term at his development, and playing a bit part with us in the Champ might stall that.
The season El Miz had is a good example; big step up from L2 to Champ though, so despite his good season at Orient, might struggle to get game time too. Playing as a 4 at Orient, he's going to be competing with Evans, Ball, possibly Luongo, and maybe even another signing for that role.
Funnily enough, I hope we'll take another look at Harper in pre-season before discarding him; I think we didn't get the best out of him under Cook where he ended up playing as a 4, when his natural game was always more box-to-box and driving forward with the ball before he joined us - other than Morsy (and Camara) we don't really have other options for that role. Get the feeling he may not be seen as good enough, which would be a shame as he's still relatively young and I think there's a player hiding in there somewhere! |  |
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| Retained List on 00:00 - May 23 with 2735 views | FevsBCFC |
| Retained List on 13:16 - May 22 by SamWhiteUK |
Sure, but what's to stop the club changing its mind on a player? |
The contract offer lasts for a month
EFL Rule 68:
68.4 The Player must notify in writing the Club holding his registration within one month of the date on which notification of the said terms of re engagement were sent, whether or not he accepts their offer of re engagement. If the Player has not replied in writing to the Club’s offer of re engagement by 30 June, the offer shall automatically lapse. In the case of an Under 24 Player, the Club’s compensation rights shall not be affected.
Guidance
The EFL position is that after the one month period set out in the first sentence of Regulation 68.4, the Club may withdraw the offer at which point the Player will not be able to unilaterally accept that offer, leaving the Club free to pursue alterative options for new players without the risk of the player accepting. If the offer is not withdrawn, it will then lapse automatically on 30 June at which point gain the Player will not be able to unilaterally accept. However, there has been no decided case on this point, and nor has the PFCC considered the impact of a Club adopting that approach on the level of compensation which might be awarded under Regulation 68.5. | | | |
| Retained List on 08:01 - May 23 with 2619 views | Metal_Hacker |
| Retained List on 00:00 - May 23 by FevsBCFC |
The contract offer lasts for a month
EFL Rule 68:
68.4 The Player must notify in writing the Club holding his registration within one month of the date on which notification of the said terms of re engagement were sent, whether or not he accepts their offer of re engagement. If the Player has not replied in writing to the Club’s offer of re engagement by 30 June, the offer shall automatically lapse. In the case of an Under 24 Player, the Club’s compensation rights shall not be affected.
Guidance
The EFL position is that after the one month period set out in the first sentence of Regulation 68.4, the Club may withdraw the offer at which point the Player will not be able to unilaterally accept that offer, leaving the Club free to pursue alterative options for new players without the risk of the player accepting. If the offer is not withdrawn, it will then lapse automatically on 30 June at which point gain the Player will not be able to unilaterally accept. However, there has been no decided case on this point, and nor has the PFCC considered the impact of a Club adopting that approach on the level of compensation which might be awarded under Regulation 68.5. |
Just out of curiosity , why are you interested in ourselves once again ?
You seemed to have vanished a few months ago and now you reappear
Just curios before you get offended |  |
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| Retained List on 09:19 - May 23 with 2512 views | chicoazul |
Everyone shouted at me when I said at least 10 players are off. |  |
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| Retained List on 09:53 - May 23 with 2445 views | PhilTWTD |
| Retained List on 09:19 - May 23 by chicoazul |
Everyone shouted at me when I said at least 10 players are off. |
Unless you're referring to U21s players, there aren't 10 players to release. | | | |
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| Retained List on 09:53 - May 23 with 2444 views | PhilTWTD |
Re Nick Hayes, he's contracted until the summer of 2024. | | | |
| Retained List on 11:25 - May 23 with 2354 views | Herbivore |
| Retained List on 09:19 - May 23 by chicoazul |
Everyone shouted at me when I said at least 10 players are off. |
Which ten senior players will be leaving? |  |
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| Retained List on 12:15 - May 23 with 2237 views | Kieran_Knows |
| Retained List on 11:25 - May 23 by Herbivore |
Which ten senior players will be leaving? |
I imagine Chico was talking about the squad as a whole, not just those whose deals are up this summer. In which case I agree with him, I can see 10 senior players from the squad being sold/loaned out/released/mutual termination. |  |
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| Retained List on 12:59 - May 23 with 2130 views | Keno |
| Retained List on 08:01 - May 23 by Metal_Hacker |
Just out of curiosity , why are you interested in ourselves once again ?
You seemed to have vanished a few months ago and now you reappear
Just curios before you get offended |
I suspect its a Mark Ashton fetishist |  |
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| Retained List on 14:52 - May 23 with 2060 views | Metal_Hacker |
| Retained List on 12:59 - May 23 by Keno |
I suspect its a Mark Ashton fetishist |
I just don't get it
I couldn't imagine being bothered to register to another like for like opposing forum to chat bollox - unless there was some form of fetish | |
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| Retained List on 14:57 - May 23 with 2044 views | clive_baker |
I'm surprised Aluko has been offered terms, didn't see that coming. Appreciate he's experienced and a good pro, but not sure I see the merit in that one to be honest.
The others all predictable enough. |  |
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| Retained List on 15:07 - May 23 with 1998 views | chicoazul |
| Retained List on 11:25 - May 23 by Herbivore |
Which ten senior players will be leaving? |
3 today plus;
Pig
Edwards
Jackson
Evans
Harness
Harper
Ahadme
And Hirst and TJJ. | |
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| Retained List on 15:08 - May 23 with 1993 views | chicoazul |
| Retained List on 12:15 - May 23 by Kieran_Knows |
I imagine Chico was talking about the squad as a whole, not just those whose deals are up this summer. In which case I agree with him, I can see 10 senior players from the squad being sold/loaned out/released/mutual termination. |
Yes indeed.
Lots of ins and outs as always. | |
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| Retained List on 15:26 - May 23 with 1941 views | Herbivore |
| Retained List on 15:07 - May 23 by chicoazul |
3 today plus;
Pig
Edwards
Jackson
Evans
Harness
Harper
Ahadme
And Hirst and TJJ. |
Pig, Harper and Ahadme have barely been part of our squad, you can't call them senior players. The three who have left today have barely featured. We'll see what happens with Hirst and TJJ but loanees returning don't really count as senior players leaving, imo. You've been making out all along that we're going to see a lot of genuine first teamers departing. | |
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| Retained List on 15:32 - May 23 with 1934 views | Vegtablue |
| Retained List on 08:01 - May 23 by Metal_Hacker |
Just out of curiosity , why are you interested in ourselves once again ?
You seemed to have vanished a few months ago and now you reappear
Just curios before you get offended |
We've just launched season 2 is why!
Many BC fans felt the Championship is where his shortcomings will once more be exposed, so it's still all to play for. A quick glance at Fevs' posting history and they were one of the friendly doomsday prophets. |  | | |
| Retained List on 15:42 - May 23 with 1886 views | chicoazul |
| Retained List on 15:26 - May 23 by Herbivore |
Pig, Harper and Ahadme have barely been part of our squad, you can't call them senior players. The three who have left today have barely featured. We'll see what happens with Hirst and TJJ but loanees returning don't really count as senior players leaving, imo. You've been making out all along that we're going to see a lot of genuine first teamers departing. |
I’m pretty sure my list is more or less the same as the last time you creamed yourself over this topic.
They are senior members of the squad *now*. We have 3 CFs at the moment for instance. | |
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| Retained List on 17:01 - May 23 with 1814 views | FevsBCFC |
| Retained List on 08:01 - May 23 by Metal_Hacker |
Just out of curiosity , why are you interested in ourselves once again ?
You seemed to have vanished a few months ago and now you reappear
Just curios before you get offended |
Just interested in how you are approaching your summer window, I take an interest in all Champ clubs…not just yours, although I won’t lie, I’m always intrigued as to the fans view of Mark Ashton.
I’m on a few other clubs forums.
Just helps keep me up to date with stuff for some podcasts I go on too.
Even with the Ashton effect, I’d rather you got promoted than Derby, Wednesday and Bolton, who’ve all taken the p*** re FFP over recent years. Had Derby came back up, it would hardly seem like they’d been punished. | | | |
| Retained List on 17:09 - May 23 with 1777 views | Metal_Hacker |
| Retained List on 17:01 - May 23 by FevsBCFC |
Just interested in how you are approaching your summer window, I take an interest in all Champ clubs…not just yours, although I won’t lie, I’m always intrigued as to the fans view of Mark Ashton.
I’m on a few other clubs forums.
Just helps keep me up to date with stuff for some podcasts I go on too.
Even with the Ashton effect, I’d rather you got promoted than Derby, Wednesday and Bolton, who’ve all taken the p*** re FFP over recent years. Had Derby came back up, it would hardly seem like they’d been punished. |
OK cool thanks just wondered | |
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| Retained List on 17:33 - May 23 with 1738 views | Herbivore |
| Retained List on 15:42 - May 23 by chicoazul |
I’m pretty sure my list is more or less the same as the last time you creamed yourself over this topic.
They are senior members of the squad *now*. We have 3 CFs at the moment for instance. |
I need to get a GPS tracker on those goalposts of yours. | |
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| Retained List on 17:52 - May 23 with 1704 views | chicoazul |
| Retained List on 17:33 - May 23 by Herbivore |
I need to get a GPS tracker on those goalposts of yours. |
Just some sense would do. | |
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| Retained List on 18:05 - May 23 with 1688 views | GlasgowBlue |
| Retained List on 11:25 - May 23 by Herbivore |
Which ten senior players will be leaving? |
The three announced today + Piggot, Harper, Ndaba, El Miz, Ahadme, Evans and perhaps Fridge. [Post edited 23 May 2023 18:06]
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| Retained List on 18:07 - May 23 with 1685 views | chicoazul |
| Retained List on 18:05 - May 23 by GlasgowBlue |
The three announced today + Piggot, Harper, Ndaba, El Miz, Ahadme, Evans and perhaps Fridge. [Post edited 23 May 2023 18:06]
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I think they’re gonna keep El Miz. At least until January, if Humph gets a good loan. | |
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